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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mike ross on October 26, 2011, 07:34:31 pm

Title: vacuum cleaners
Post by: mike ross on October 26, 2011, 07:34:31 pm
Hi lads I need to replace 8) my sebo bs36 anything else on the market as good if not better.
Many thanks  ;)
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Richard Basey-Fisher on October 26, 2011, 07:48:22 pm
restormate sell a good vac havent tried one but heard they are good

http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15094/Products/CR8200
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: AshWhite on October 26, 2011, 08:02:54 pm
Not wishing to hijack the threa, but does anyone have experience of a Nilco 1207?

I've bought one cheap on auction, I bid really low not expecting to win, but it's over an hours drive to pick it up - just wondering if it's worth it?
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Jim_77 on October 26, 2011, 08:18:15 pm
Mike, for sheer performance on a flat carpet, the Royal beats the sebo into a cocked hat.  However the drawback is, it's a dedicated upright - you can get a kit to use it with a pipe & tools but you have to virtually dismantle the damn thing to do so - a long-winded process!

In the days when I used the Royal on almost every job, I always used to carry a cylinder as well, which meant I had the best vac for flat carpets and the best for upholstery, hard floors & stairs.

The bonus of a Royal is it makes an excellent back-duster for rugs.  You wouldn't believe the amount of dry soil it can knock out of a rug.  Sebo has almost no effect in comparison.

Solution used to sell them but I'm not sure if they still do, give them a shout
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: JandS on October 26, 2011, 08:39:53 pm
Royal website.
They look old fashioned but if they work!!!!!

http://www.royalvacuums.com/Commercial/default.aspx

John
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: john martin on October 26, 2011, 08:57:46 pm
Agree
 The Sebo is an allrounder ...  but master of none

Royal is excellent and surprisingly lightweight too .
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: John Atkinson on October 27, 2011, 07:10:35 am
Mike, for sheer performance on a flat carpet, the Royal beats the sebo into a cocked hat.  However the drawback is, it's a dedicated upright - you can get a kit to use it with a pipe & tools but you have to virtually dismantle the damn thing to do so - a long-winded process!

In the days when I used the Royal on almost every job, I always used to carry a cylinder as well, which meant I had the best vac for flat carpets and the best for upholstery, hard floors & stairs.

The bonus of a Royal is it makes an excellent back-duster for rugs.  You wouldn't believe the amount of dry soil it can knock out of a rug.  Sebo has almost no effect in comparison.

Solution used to sell them but I'm not sure if they still do, give them a shout
I absolutely agree with Jim. The Royal is way better than the Sebo.
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: M.Acorn on October 27, 2011, 07:22:15 am
Check this one out,was at a house I cleaned a month or so back,think this was used on the ark !!!
I have a Tennant,which is a copy of the Sebo,nearly 8 years old now,and still works as it did when I first bought it...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/delk/22092011638.jpg)
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 27, 2011, 08:09:59 am
To me the royal is just a  kirby copy, but not as versatile or powerful.

If I was after a vac I would search eBay for a newish kirby, they are heavy as hell but good

Like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kirby-Diamond-Ultimate-G-Vacuum-Cleaner-Shampoo-System-/320778791076?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaners&hash=item4aafe7e8a4#ht_610wt_79
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Phillip Mold on October 27, 2011, 08:16:29 am
Check this one out,was at a house I cleaned a month or so back,think this was used on the ark !!!
I have a Tennant,which is a copy of the Sebo,nearly 8 years old now,and still works as it did when I first bought it...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/delk/22092011638.jpg)

WE had one of those at home, when  I was at junior school 45 years ago!
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Jim_77 on October 27, 2011, 12:09:59 pm
Mike, have you properly used a Royal?  i.e. been out and worked with it, not just a quick back and forth over a clean carpet as a demonstration?

You've hit the nail on the head, a kirby is way too heavy for a carpet cleaner to constantly lug in and out of a van, up and down stairs etc all day long.  The royal actually weighs slightly less than the bs46 if I recall correctly and there's nothing wrong with its performance!

If my rotary didn't weigh a ton and wasn't so awkward to drag on and off the van, over gravel drives and up and down stairs I would use it to agitate all carpet cleans because it is by far a superior machine to my Duo.  But the Duo is light, easy and quick to set up/pack away and is perfectly adequate on the majority of jobs so I use that  for my own convenience and for the sake of my back!

So I'd apply the same logic to a heavy cumbersome vac like a kirby - I would most likely get sick of its weight and awkwardness and therefore not use it all the time, making it pointless to have.
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 27, 2011, 12:27:15 pm
Mike, have you properly used a Royal?  i.e. been out and worked with it, not just a quick back and forth over a clean carpet as a demonstration?

You've hit the nail on the head, a kirby is way too heavy for a carpet cleaner to constantly lug in and out of a van, up and down stairs etc all day long.  The royal actually weighs slightly less than the bs46 if I recall correctly and there's nothing wrong with its performance!

If my rotary didn't weigh a ton and wasn't so awkward to drag on and off the van, over gravel drives and up and down stairs I would use it to agitate all carpet cleans because it is by far a superior machine to my Duo.  But the Duo is light, easy and quick to set up/pack away and is perfectly adequate on the majority of jobs so I use that  for my own convenience and for the sake of my back!

So I'd apply the same logic to a heavy cumbersome vac like a kirby - I would most likely get sick of its weight and awkwardness and therefore not use it all the time, making it pointless to have.

this is were we differ. My number one aim is to do the best job possible..... if this means using a slightly heavier machine then i think my valued customers deserve it ;) ;)

and if you think the kirby is too heavy to use you need to get down the gym you wimp :D
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: JandS on October 27, 2011, 06:04:44 pm
Len

Snap so did we, just noticed your only
a year older than me.

John
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: mike ross on October 27, 2011, 06:39:30 pm
Thanks for all the info lads sounds like the royal has a thumbs up problem with the kirby is it takes you all day and a box of tea bags to get the rep out your office  >:( ;D
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Len Gribble on October 27, 2011, 06:43:51 pm
John

Don’t you mean Phillip as I’ve on got one l in my middle name ;)

mr lpg
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: wynne jones on October 27, 2011, 06:46:56 pm
Don't buy a new Royal or Kirby, get a second hand one of ebay refurbed.

I have two for different jobs. An Oreck XL light and easy and always on the van, Kirby for padding jobs and beating rugs. Combined cost £200!
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: JandS on October 27, 2011, 06:51:27 pm
Sorry Len yes I meant Philip.

John
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: james roffey on October 27, 2011, 07:10:52 pm
Try and find a Royal supplier in the UK  :P
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 27, 2011, 07:17:32 pm
don't Solutions still sell them?

but who uses a vacuum anyhow :) :) get the customer to do it before you arrive
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Carpet Dawg on October 27, 2011, 07:18:59 pm
don't Solutions still sell them?

but who uses a vacuum anyhow :) :) get the customer to do it before you arrive

Snap
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: JandS on October 28, 2011, 07:46:59 pm
Is the Kirby Heritage II a decent one??

John
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: Bbarrow on October 28, 2011, 09:03:11 pm
iv got a kirby sentria think its the latest one, bought off my mate who was a dodge kirby salesman for £200 was his demo modle he decided he wasnt giving back. told me he has sold the for £1600, wow.
think it would be hard to beat, but never used a royal so.............
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: JandS on October 29, 2011, 12:05:33 am
£36 for it
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: mike ross on October 29, 2011, 12:24:04 am
£37.00 you got yourself a deal  ;D
Title: Re: vacuum cleaners
Post by: JandS on October 29, 2011, 11:36:59 am
Yes it's in good nick and as all the tools.
£36 plus a 120 mile round trip to Preston.
Got the idea from what wynne jones said
earlier in the thread.

John