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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Chris R on November 09, 2005, 08:09:57 pm

Title: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Chris R on November 09, 2005, 08:09:57 pm
Hi,
What size water tank would you need on a Truck Mount to be able to work all day, without refilling?
I was surprised to read that a lot of TM users have to refill a couple of times a day, seems like a real hassle to me!
 You are losing some of the time that you saved by using a Tm ( cleaning faster) by having to fill up again.
Thanks
Chris
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Glynn on November 09, 2005, 08:17:59 pm
You fill while your cleaning
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Chris R on November 09, 2005, 08:30:30 pm
So do you really need a water tank? Why not just run off the hose pipe all of the time?
Chris
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 09, 2005, 09:23:31 pm
I carry a 100gl never had to return home to refill

Mike
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: conallon on November 09, 2005, 10:59:07 pm
Chris i run off the hose pipe all the time, (no room for tank ) on the smaller jobs ie domestic lounge carpet a fresh watertank would be a bonus, on the longer stay jobs filling a tank would be no hassle at all, i presume the lads who carry fresh water tanks would plan this in to there day,

Conrad
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Nigel_W on November 10, 2005, 07:23:24 am
Chris,

How much water you use with a TM depends on a couple of things.

 First of all which TM you have. Some of them dump water into the waste tank to cool the system down. So if you put the wand down while pre-spraying you could be still using water. Some water softeners also dump water as well.

Secondly it very much depends on the type of work you are doing. If you clean small domestic houses you are unlikely to use large quantities. However you can go through hundreds of gallons on very large domestic and commercial jobs.

I carry 120 gallons, which for me will usually be used by lunchtime. However you quickly learn to hook up to the nearest tap to conserve supplies. I have had a tm for 9 years and it has not been a problem yet. I don't understand why you would need to go home to get water. All of our clients have taps and running water - and you can be filling as you are working.


Nigel
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: John_Flynn on November 10, 2005, 03:53:42 pm
Carry 100gallons and can earn £500.00 before a refill.

NOT having a Fresh Water tank is penny pinching ::) ::) ::), what happens when you get a call to house with NO outside water supply, would you connect your hose to the kitchen tap ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 10, 2005, 04:51:52 pm
So on Johns recconing  Nigel earns £600 before lunch :o :o :o

Nigel, you must be powerwashing the carpets to use 120gl before lunch!

Mike
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Nigel_W on November 10, 2005, 05:13:04 pm
Mike,

My Prochem Performer dumps water to maintain temp and I have a water softener that dumps 10 gals every 55 gals. I also have a high proportion of large jobs which mean that with a 2 man team the wand is fairly constantly on the go. I have no problems using that much water (carpet sock dry in 1 to 2 hours).

If you allow for 4 hours work before lunch, that equates to £150 per hour. Aren't all truck mount guys doing this?

Nigel

PS It is very noticeabe how much less water you use when you have a day of smaller jobs. The machine hours are very low and all the time is taken up with  driving, setting up and packing away.


Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: mark_roberts on November 10, 2005, 05:21:32 pm
Chris

Ring Alltec and take their demo van out for a week for free.  This will be enough to pursuade you to sell that girlie car and buy a truckmount ;D

Mark
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: conallon on November 10, 2005, 06:10:18 pm
Connect to any tap upstairs or down, even been known to connect to next doors  ;D
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Chris R on November 10, 2005, 08:39:06 pm
So which of the newer TMs use (dump) less water?

I thought that it was only entry level machines that did this?

Chris
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Glynn on November 10, 2005, 08:55:08 pm
Chris,
The Hydramaster Maxx series.
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: ollie on November 10, 2005, 09:27:25 pm
How long does it take from arriving at house to start cleaning with a truckmount?
Cheers
Ollie
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Glynn on November 10, 2005, 10:09:01 pm
2 - 4 mins
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: John_Flynn on November 10, 2005, 10:18:39 pm
Mark Roberts how did you read my mind, what a waste of money that was don't you think??
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: mark_roberts on November 10, 2005, 10:21:02 pm
2 mins to prevac :o

For me the time savings are setup a little, actual wanding little bit more, continous working without the need to fill and empty the portable, a lot.

Get a 120gallon tank custom made to sit under the TM.  The waste tank sits at the back on top as per normal.  Enough water to last.

Mark
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: mark_roberts on November 10, 2005, 10:21:54 pm
What was a waste of money?  Chris' girlie car :-*

Mark
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Karl Wildey on November 11, 2005, 01:59:12 pm
Never had room for a fresh water tank, so used a hose pipe, have been doing this for 6 years now, and yes when there is no outside tap I use the kitchen/sink/bathroom tap, which ever is best fit.
You learn to adapt your system to suit.
However never in 6 years have I arrived and started within 4  minutes. Pre inspection springs to mind, then vac, then prespray, then setting up etc
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: Glynn on November 11, 2005, 03:06:23 pm
The answer of 4 mins was reffering to the actual time it takes to set up the TM to be able to clean, setting aside pre vacuuming, but including pre-spraying as this is part of the cleaning cycle re the TM.
6 years , try 26 years.
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: BRSL on November 11, 2005, 05:26:38 pm
Cleaned a pub last night with my boxer 427 fair enough didnt leave till 7 this morning but used 150 gl, the pub came to £488 twin tools one on upholstery (mining) and me on carpet (seen more hair and pile on a biscuit)

 The new T/M's are the way to go with the exhaust diverter, ive a 80 gl tank can get three, 3 bed houses from that if im realy lucky but i recon thats good, then connect to stand pipes £50 a year and as much water as you want or from
Connect to any tap upstairs or down, even been known to connect to next doors  ;D
explain that 80 gl is going to cost them about 23 pence thay dont mind  8)
Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: John_Flynn on November 11, 2005, 07:49:04 pm
Chris

There is nothing at all wrong with that machine and what you put in the private message to me was totally wrong and there was no call for it!!

That knackered old machine has earned £350.00 today and YES it is sold!!

Title: Re: Truck Mount water Consumption?
Post by: John_Flynn on November 11, 2005, 08:51:34 pm
To tell you the truth Chris I am not a car man, and would never ever consider a sporty car of any kind, give me a Volvo estate any time!!

You should know by now I take the 'P'.

Thanks for modifing the post that you placed.

How could you say that when you have never seen or tried the machine??

Keep smiling and get rid before it loses some more WAD !!