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Title: Question on inline filters
Post by: Russ Chadd on October 17, 2011, 03:58:31 pm
This is going to sound like a silly question but is there a best place to put the inline filter on the vacuum hose? nearer the wand or nearer the machine? or does it not matter?

Thanks guys

Russ
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 17, 2011, 04:55:25 pm
where its most convenient. I have a 20ft 2.5 inch hose coming out the van so fit it there before the 2 inch starts.



Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Jim_77 on October 17, 2011, 05:47:27 pm
Best place to fit it is in the back of the shed with all the other gadgets that seemed a good idea at the time! ;)
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Colin Day on October 17, 2011, 06:06:45 pm
It's definitely better to use an in-line filter for the auto-dump to work effectively, IMO. 

I have a 5' length of 2" hose so the filter is next to the machine....
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Andrew Briscoe on October 17, 2011, 06:23:00 pm
where its most convenient. I have a 20ft 2.5 inch hose coming out the van so fit it there before the 2 inch starts.





Mike, does the 2 1/2 " hose help with airflow too ?
I have a max 470 dual operator, although never used it dual.
Would using to short lengths of 2" hose into a y connector improve airflow ?

Andrew
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 17, 2011, 07:08:22 pm
Andrew....to be honest I can't say i really know, I can't feel a difference.

I tend to use my filter on an evening during my letterbox shoplifting, it catches all the swag as it sucks down the hose.... did a jewelers last sunday got 5 watches and 3 bracelets :D :D

Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Russ Chadd on October 17, 2011, 07:49:45 pm
Next to machine sound like a good place
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Jim_77 on October 17, 2011, 10:03:54 pm
Probably the most practical place, you just need a short length of hose from machine to filter, to allow the filter to lie flat on the floor

Andrew, you won't notice any difference at all running 2 short lengths of 2" into a Y right near your machine.  The manifold on the machine is a Y junction, you're just replicating the same thing a few feet further forward.  Where you'll notice a slight bit of difference is if you run 50 or 100 foot of dual hose into a Y on a long hose run.

I did a school last year where I needed 200ft for several rooms; I ran 4" for the first 150' and really did notice a difference - ran it on mid speed rather than flat out and it cleaned beautifully with the RX.  On reflection though afterwards, I thought to myself what did it really gain me?  Added an extra 20 minutes to the job time plus faffing around loading/unloading my spare lengths of hose from the garage at home......and probably meant an unmeasurable reduction in drying time - after all, needlefelt school carpet in July with all the doors and windows open isn't really all that critical.

If I actually NEEDED 4 to the door on a job (due to air flow drop) the hose run would have to be so long I'd need about 12 lengths of vac hose.  The 7 lengths I own are plenty!  I ain't got the money to waste or the storage space in my garage for that!!

Only exception is one restaurant I do with a filthy greasy contract axminster that I need to obliterate to get clean, so I want to squeak every last cfm of airflow from my system to minimise shrinkage (always does in places)  So I run 50ft of 4" to the Y and then 50ft of 2" to the RX-20, and machine on full power.  Sucks like a 'you know what' with bills to pay!
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Adam Fearnley on October 17, 2011, 11:28:09 pm
There don't seem to be many inline filters for a 1.5 inch hose, any recommendations?
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Jim_77 on October 17, 2011, 11:34:55 pm
Get a system that runs on 2" hose :P

Failing that you can get hose cuffs that adapt a 1.5" hose to fit onto a 2" barb

The 1.5" cuffs might even fit inside the barbs on the filter rather than outside.  I could go and check but I'm already changed into my Winnie the Pooh pyjamas and it's raining outside :)
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: John Kelly on October 18, 2011, 08:36:17 am
Andrew....to be honest I can't say i really know, I can't feel a difference.

I tend to use my filter on an evening during my letterbox shoplifting, it catches all the swag as it sucks down the hose.... did a jewelers last sunday got 5 watches and 3 bracelets :D :D


Thats a good idea, wonder if it works on cash machine slots.
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Colin Day on October 18, 2011, 09:17:57 am
Andrew....to be honest I can't say i really know, I can't feel a difference.

I tend to use my filter on an evening during my letterbox shoplifting, it catches all the swag as it sucks down the hose.... did a jewelers last sunday got 5 watches and 3 bracelets :D :D


Thats a good idea, wonder if it works on cash machine slots.

Might try it out at Anne Summers.... You might get more than you bargained for though ;D
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Adam Fearnley on October 18, 2011, 12:50:49 pm
Hmm but it seems you can only get these filters from the states, are there any I can get i this country?
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Ian Gourlay on October 18, 2011, 01:11:11 pm
I think alltec has one also I have seen them on Ebay

I am just wondering if one of these Filters would restrict the Airflow on a portable.

Not so much of a problem on a truck mount as they have up to 20 times more power
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Russ Chadd on October 18, 2011, 02:46:45 pm
So i just set up my Mytee lint hog...
In the box i received :

1 Main unit
2 Metal filter
3 Pack of sock type filters (like ladies tights)
4 2 X 2" lockable cuffs
5 1 X 1.5" lockable cuff

Just a quick test on the Jag and first impressions tell me there is no noticeable drop in air flow over 100' of 2".
Will test out on a carpet tomorrow for a better idea...
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Ian Gourlay on October 18, 2011, 04:47:22 pm
I was thinking when filter starts to fill but good luck
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Jim_77 on October 18, 2011, 08:57:50 pm
That's the whole problem with them Ian, even on a TM it shows.  If you do a whole house of wool carpets that are still losing a lot of fluff, you'll need to empty it half way through
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: clinton on October 20, 2011, 08:51:33 am
How much did the filter work out at russ please ???
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Russ Chadd on October 22, 2011, 02:43:37 pm
How much did the filter work out at russ please ???

Hey Clinton

I tried my lint hog out the other day, it was on a wool mix berber carpet so not much malting to be had.
I tested the lint hog with both stainless steel and sock filters attached, the sock filter is hand if you are gonna use your machine for dry vac use, but this is totally no good if you are gonna get it wet as it WILL restrict air flow by half!
Removing the sock and just using the stainless steel filter allowed the performance to increase back to where i would of liked it.
Once i had completed the job i inspected the lint hog to find it had filtered out lots of dog hairs and crap and my extraction tank was almost free of debris... i would definitely recommend one of these lint hogs to anyone who tires of cleaning out there machine after a long day on the wand... ;) 
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Craigp on October 22, 2011, 04:20:59 pm
I bought one about five years ago, used it for six months then ditched it, like Jim it's sat in the shed since.

I found it too restrictive and a pain emptying and cleaning it.

Russ it may not be too restrictive now the filters clean but wait till it's got some fluff in there.
Title: Re: Question on inline filters
Post by: Russ Chadd on October 22, 2011, 04:37:27 pm
I hear what you are saying Craig but if too much debris enters my extraction tank it will block my pump out filter leaving the pump out feature useless.
It only takes 2 mins to open it up and pull out the metal filter and before i would be faffing about with my arm deep inside the tank picking out fluff and bits of carpet etc