Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: SunShineCleaning on October 16, 2011, 06:37:06 pm
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I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.
The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.
I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.
That bill is for £968.00 :o
Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.
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Thats a bit rough! :o
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I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.
The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.
I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.
That bill is for £968.00 :o
Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.
Lance call me, I had this happen to me because some person used an image of thiers and cropped it in an image I then changed to make my own. they have spiders out there looking all the time for these images, so many on here will at some point will be getting a letter from them, a good thing it shows your are getting traffic to your site :)
if you need to talk about this give me a call one evening, do not pay this bill till you have spoke to me dude, I could save you this £900 odd.
Ian
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whats the pic
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whats the pic
Ori, it does not matter what the pic is, they catch you on pixels and mapping an image, basically as an example if you have a square centimeter of an image and add it to your own, if it came from one of there images you are in breach of there licensing even if you don't know about it (meaning if a designer did this cheap you are liable), if you host it your the one that pays, and they do take to court, they do this to protect their clients that add their images to getty's library for sale.
More and more of this will happen, they have programs running 24/7 processing every image in search results, so the clever people that steal images online taking from Google without paying etc and then put them on their sites will need to worry as they will be on a getty list.
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So could you get around it by renaming the file and altering the dpi in image manipulation software and/or compressing it a bit?
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So could you get around it by renaming the file and altering the dpi in image manipulation software and/or compressing it a bit?
if it mirrors what they have Paul, then I would guess no mate, I edited some clouds and made smaller from an image in a template and they caught me.
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Getty always negotiate.
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Getty always negotiate.
they also try to trip you up, and get more money Matt
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Crap , I just told my web designer to copy a load of images for various
Pics , will have to rethink , is it best to take them myself or is there
a data base where for free window cleaner images , was looking for
Pressure washing images , gutter clearing etc , window cleaning ,
Close shave ! :o
Cheers
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so who gets done
you who web site it is
the web design
host company
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Crap , I just told my web designer to copy a load of images for various
Pics , will have to rethink , is it best to take them myself or is there
a data base where for free window cleaner images , was looking for
Pressure washing images , gutter clearing etc , window cleaning ,
Close shave ! :o
Cheers
istockphoto.com 123rf.com free iamges.co.uk sxc.hu gettyimages.com
these are all cheap getty not as cheap as others ;)
Or take your own they are free, but take good ones
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Ori, if you are paying for the hosting you get done as you ok it, you can argue with the web designer but it is you mate sorry to say.
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I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.
The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.
I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.
That bill is for £968.00 :o
Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.
Lance call me, I had this happen to me because some person used an image of thiers and cropped it in an image I then changed to make my own. they have spiders out there looking all the time for these images, so many on here will at some point will be getting a letter from them, a good thing it shows your are getting traffic to your site :)
if you need to talk about this give me a call one evening, do not pay this bill till you have spoke to me dude, I could save you this £900 odd.
Ian
I may call you if thats ok some time this week. Thanks
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I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.
The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.
I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.
That bill is for £968.00 :o
Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.
Lance call me, I had this happen to me because some person used an image of thiers and cropped it in an image I then changed to make my own. they have spiders out there looking all the time for these images, so many on here will at some point will be getting a letter from them, a good thing it shows your are getting traffic to your site :)
if you need to talk about this give me a call one evening, do not pay this bill till you have spoke to me dude, I could save you this £900 odd.
Ian
I may call you if thats ok some time this week. Thanks
no probs at all ;)
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Getty always negotiate.
they also try to trip you up, and get more money Matt
I'm sure they do. I'd have told them 2K, they must be slipping ;0)
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Getty always negotiate.
they also try to trip you up, and get more money Matt
I'm sure they do. I'd have told them 2K, they must be slipping ;0)
when am I getting my SLX anyway ?
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;D
It was a CLX.
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These are quite interesting
http://extortionletterinfo.com/
http://www.zyra.info/getstu.htm
http://womeninbusiness.about.com/od/copyrightlaws/a/How-Can-Getty-Demand-More-For-An-Image-Than-Worth.htm
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Sorry its happened to you.
The moral is, pay for your images from an image supplier. It costs at the most a couple of quid for a licenced image. Keep your receipts for the ones you have bought, in case the supplier (or their supplier) nicked them in the first place.
We use istockphoto and have spent about £30 or so. Much cheaper than getting one of these demands in your email; they WILL get you, no matter what you do to their pictures. They smell the money, they have the technology.
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I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.
The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.
I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.
That bill is for £968.00 :o
Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.
Sureley if its an unlinked page then you are only guilty of copying and hosting it and not 'using' it as such. I'd be tempted to tell them the same and tell the to shove their bill as you aint using it and don't want to use it.
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I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.
The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.
I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.
That bill is for £968.00 :o
Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.
Sureley if its an unlinked page then you are only guilty of copying and hosting it and not 'using' it as such. I'd be tempted to tell them the same and tell the to shove their bill as you aint using it and don't want to use it.
Lol mike, they just take you to court it is theft, if you host it it is online, if you go and look at their massive t&c's you will be able to read you cannot do this, they have it covered
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Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words. :o ;D
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Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words. :o ;D
Join the queue Lance. ;D
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Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words. :o ;D
It's only window washers that calls me Lance, everyone else calls me Stuart.
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Just re-read Ians's post on websites and now it all makes sense.
I'll let you off with the copycat company name then Stuart ;D
Back to the original point of the post, nearly 1k for ripping off a fees pics for a cleaning website does seem a bit pricy
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About 3 years ago i got a letter from Getty asking for £1800 for the use of one of their pictures, it was a telephone. After a few letters here and there, they settled at £400, so dispute it! My solictor told me what to do, she said you will have to pay something, but they would rather settle for a lesser amount than take you to court!
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I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.
The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.
I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.
That bill is for £968.00 :o
Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.
Sureley if its an unlinked page then you are only guilty of copying and hosting it and not 'using' it as such. I'd be tempted to tell them the same and tell the to shove their bill as you aint using it and don't want to use it.
Lol mike, they just take you to court it is theft, if you host it it is online, if you go and look at their massive t&c's you will be able to read you cannot do this, they have it covered
Hang on a minute. Its not so straightforeward. Anyone at all who browses the internet page where he 'copied' ift from, will have a copy of the same image on their computer, it'll probably be in their temporary internet files.S o loads of people will have copied it already, albeit unwittingley. His 'crime' is using it. If he shows its on an unlinked, forgotton about webpage thats not publicised or promoted them i'm sure that £900 bill will realistically be £9, i'd tell them to shove it and so should he. What damages are they likeley to get from him given its use? All the terms and conditions i the world won't make you pay nearly a grand for that, they're trying to frighten him. He should tell then to get stuffed. They should also make him aware that he is using copyright material BTW and give him the chance to desist. Looks like they never done that, they hope he'll pay the bill. Infact they bank on it !!!
Best cause of action is to remove offending image and ignore them and their requests for money.
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They send out a scan of your website with the date and time it was scanned, a bit like a speed camera photo. I was told that you will not get away with not paying something, and they have taken people to court over their images and they always win. Its best to say sorry, and negotiate.
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They send out a scan of your website with the date and time it was scanned, a bit like a speed camera photo. I was told that you will not get away with not paying something, and they have taken people to court over their images and they always win. Its best to say sorry, and negotiate.
exactly the worst thing to do is tell them to stick it, or ignore them, they do not just forget about it. a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
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a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
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a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Mike instead of arguing a point, why not speak with them, you will find you are way off the mark mate, they are not stupid, nor will they except answers like hosting companies are asked to removed it etc, they go direct to source, that being the person that pays the hosting, you will need to look at the hosting companies t&c's it will say they are not liable, it is you (you being the person paying or account it is)
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a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Mike instead of arguing a point, why not speak with them, you will find you are way off the mark mate, they are not stupid, nor will they except answers like hosting companies are asked to removed it etc, they go direct to source, that being the person that pays the hosting, you will need to look at the hosting companies t&c's it will say they are not liable, it is you (you being the person paying or account it is)
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Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.
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a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Mike instead of arguing a point, why not speak with them, you will find you are way off the mark mate, they are not stupid, nor will they except answers like hosting companies are asked to removed it etc, they go direct to source, that being the person that pays the hosting, you will need to look at the hosting companies t&c's it will say they are not liable, it is you (you being the person paying or account it is)
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Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.
go here: google.com AND DO A SEARCH ;D
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Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.
http://www.out-law.com/page-10367
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Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words. :o ;D
Just pray that his surname isn't Boyle.
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a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Photobucket isn't public domain technically though. The files on there are password protected - so presumably Getty's spiders can't access those pages.
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a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Photobucket isn't public domain technically though. The files on there are password protected - so presumably Getty's spiders can't access those pages.
spiders can't but if they asked to crawl the site I am sure they would be allowed
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Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.
http://www.out-law.com/page-10367
Hey !! You're only right. To be fair, if you check it out properley the out law website that produced the report is gettys solicitors, and they don't mention that the case was awarded by default. I.e the defendant never turned up and contested it. You'll find many more on google that have not paid the demands by getty, nor have they gone to court.
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Photobucket isn't public domain technically though.
Neither would the OP's unlinked storage page be?