Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MJHolmes on October 09, 2011, 03:46:31 pm
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Hi All,
I was just reading about the window cleaner that put something about taxes that some dont pay taxes ectr.... on the other topic. As From April next year there is a scheme that the goverment is introducing that all small enterprises no matter what you do, how much you earn you have to submit a balance sheet with all customers on your books every 3 months and tax will be taken from you which you will recieve back at the end of the tax year. This is to stop the tax dodgers.
Just another note to add as from next January it is going to be issued that anyone without Public Liabilty Insurance will be fined, to me this is great i have a cleaning business and have all insurance to cover my sections. but for those that have not then watch out!!!! You will also have to produce it to all your customers no matter what you do, again this will flush out the dodgy ones.
As From prices for customers they will pay what they want to pay for Cleaning Services. Its like this pay £3 for a top from primark, then the quality is gonna be poopy in most cases, but by a top from next and the quality is better. But let me say that there is some good window cleaners that charge a small price for there services but thats life. THE CUSTOMER WILL DECIDE.
I think anyone starting a bussiness should do it right and pay what they should be paying.
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Good thread, though the problem with "Dodgey" guys cleaning windows having to provide a list of their custies etc will be hard to police. How will the government do that? They have enough problems finding people who shouldn't be in UK in the first place, how are they going to find every window cleaner and see if he's handed in his custy list?
Sounds like more empty crap promises from Dave the game show host to me. Would be nice if they follow through, but I bet it fades away like all the other governments "great new ideas" :(
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Hi Cozy,
The document will indicate that the window cleaner will need to get signitures from the customer to say that they have seen the public liability insurance cert, of which the window cleaner has to keep the copy. in case of any insurance claims.
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It will have to be handed to the insurance company that you deal with.
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where exactly did you read this, do you have a link.
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Yes mate. I can just imagine a custy at the door when the knock.
Windy.........Hello Mrs Smith, would you sign my government document so I can prove you are a custy and you've seen my PI and I'm legit etc etc blah blah
Mrs Smith,....... I'm not signing anything, I just want my windows cleaned ..............
I bet most custies can't wait to sign bits of paper waved at them by their window cleaner. The tax dodging windies wont ask any custies and just keep going, because their wont be thousands of window cleaning police driving around ignoring crime, whilst looking for windies to see if they got their custies to sign Dave's Docket.
Looks like a non starter mate. I hope it works for you guys, but don't hold your breath........
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Cosy
Just trying to help mate thats all....... you will do what best for you and hope you are cover if a claim comes your way.
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Lol what a load of garbage.
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No, you mis-understand me mate, I hope it does work for you. I think these government ideas are always flawed and come to nothing. I really hope it happens but I don't believe it ill. I know you're trying to help, that's why I said at the start, "Good thread". ;)
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Cosy
I could agree with you about the laws and gov. but dosnt harm to cover your back tho mate.
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so where did you read this then?
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You're preaching to the converted mate. I have no choice here. Everyone is central registered so you can't avoid paying tax or not being insured. It's a bit like George Owells 1984 here in "Ze Fatherland" ;D ;D
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Im no preacher just a safe practice, i dont care what other people do and what they get upto., but just wanted to put may status on here about what is going to happen.
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So anyway, where did you read this?
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He doesn't want to tell you.
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He doesn't want to tell you.
seems like it.
I think I will wait until HMRC tell me
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bull poop
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how r they going to know i am working, if i dont pay tax now or any thing,
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Wont stop the beer money brigade. (1) they wont be registered with hmrc. (2) they wont have documents for customer to sign as without being registered with hmrc they wont be chased up.The goverment are cutting back on staff same as everyone else. Nice idea in theory,in practice will never work.
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The other thing is, how will a custie no that the paperwork being shown by the Windy is genuine and upto date? This means custies are now government sponsored insurance verification officers and can verify documents for the government.
Clean It All, where did you read this??
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Interesting clean it all - where did you read this? ;)
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simple ,we just join the beer brigade .2 hours work in morning .rest of day in weatherspoons n betting shop .bring it on mr taxman .only one loser , thats him not me
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So anyway, where did you read this?
the voices told him! ;D ;D ;D
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Hi All,
I was just reading about the window cleaner that put something about taxes that some dont pay taxes ectr.... on the other topic. As From April next year there is a scheme that the goverment is introducing that all small enterprises no matter what you do, how much you earn you have to submit a balance sheet with all customers on your books every 3 months and tax will be taken from you which you will recieve back at the end of the tax year. This is to stop the tax dodgers.
Just another note to add as from next January it is going to be issued that anyone without Public Liabilty Insurance will be fined, to me this is great i have a cleaning business and have all insurance to cover my sections. but for those that have not then watch out!!!! You will also have to produce it to all your customers no matter what you do, again this will flush out the dodgy ones.
As From prices for customers they will pay what they want to pay for Cleaning Services. Its like this pay £3 for a top from primark, then the quality is gonna be poopy in most cases, but by a top from next and the quality is better. But let me say that there is some good window cleaners that charge a small price for there services but thats life. THE CUSTOMER WILL DECIDE.
I think anyone starting a bussiness should do it right and pay what they should be paying.
??? :P
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bla bla bla
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AND DONT FORGET LADDERS ARE BANED FROM JAN 2012, sorry mate your talking out your Arsenal.
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Living proof why some people are windowcleaners and others are brain surgeons. ::)
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how does it work if yer picking up n losing customers? a hell of a lot of work going to be involved in keeping track of every window clenaers round in the UK lol. maybes thye are gonna undercut us
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I don't have any problem with making public liability insurance a legal requirement. I'm astonished it didn't happen years ago. As for paying tax quarterly based on a customer list, I can't see that being a runner - at least not in that form. For starters, it seems to make no allowance for business expenditure. Sometimes, someone might be saving up for an expensive business item to be spent later on in that accounting year. This would reduce the over all tax bill. However, if you have to pay quarterly and await a refund, you might not be able to buy the equipment when you need it. This could cause big cashflow problems for some businesses. A good way of making the economy even worse; feed the engine with dirty oil.
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If any of this was true I'm sure everybodys accountant would have told them about it a LONG time ago. mine hasn't said a word about it, should I sack him??
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It is a load of rubbish, I have asked for a link or where he got this from repeatedly and no answer, if it was true surely the HMRC would have told us all by now ???
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I love posts like this. They remind you of that bloke down the pub, you know the one.
Let's all play spot the troll shall we.
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oh dear he has deleted his account, I wonder why
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oh dear he has deleted his account, I wonder why
stu did you have too. :o
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That's it, I give in. First I get Alan Sugar of Manchester moanin about the 3 quid mob and e runs off. Now I get this rubber desk johnny starting some cr@p about how they game show hosts at Nr 10 are going to stop all the 3 quid mob, and he deletes his account in a hissy fit. ???
I'm having a break. :(
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Surely he could've waited until April 1st to post this
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Hi All,
I was just reading about the window cleaner that put something about taxes that some dont pay taxes ectr.... on the other topic. As From April next year there is a scheme that the goverment is introducing that all small enterprises no matter what you do, how much you earn you have to submit a balance sheet with all customers on your books every 3 months and tax will be taken from you which you will recieve back at the end of the tax year. This is to stop the tax dodgers.
Just another note to add as from next January it is going to be issued that anyone without Public Liabilty Insurance will be fined, to me this is great i have a cleaning business and have all insurance to cover my sections. but for those that have not then watch out!!!! You will also have to produce it to all your customers no matter what you do, again this will flush out the dodgy ones.
As From prices for customers they will pay what they want to pay for Cleaning Services. Its like this pay £3 for a top from primark, then the quality is gonna be poopy in most cases, but by a top from next and the quality is better. But let me say that there is some good window cleaners that charge a small price for there services but thats life. THE CUSTOMER WILL DECIDE.
I think anyone starting a bussiness should do it right and pay what they should be paying.
And the first dodger we've got rid of is you !!! You've gone and deleted your account !!!
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M J Homes Who you work for Mate and what do you do for a living.
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M J Homes Who you work for Mate and what do you do for a living.
he has deleted his account so I doubt he will answer, but if you really want to know this is his website
http://www.keepcleanleyland.co.uk/
a few months ago he was trying to sell his round, a few months later he was trying to sell websites
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He maybe should delete some of the drivel on his web site too :o
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i think bumper has "bumped" him off!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Just looked at his web site!! One of the worst I have seen.
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I love his testimonials, funny as fudge on yer budgie!
Testimonials
Name: Mr Grann
Date: 27/ 7 / 2011
Message: Just had my windows cleaned for a price of £6, which included my frames and sills, I will be signing up for a monthly clean Thank you.
Name: Miss Hoall
Date: 28 / 7 / 2011
Message: Keep Clean came to clean my carpets 3 large rooms, 1 small, hall way, stairs and landing for £120, good professional job.
Name: Mrs Goldy
Date: 10 / 8 / 2011
Message: My conservatory has just been cleaned, and am very impressed with the service, friendliness and price, now looking great for the summer into winter.
Name: Miss Collet
Date: 15 / 8 / 2011
Message: Having called to have my window cleaned, KCL did a great gob, but the only problem was a window was missed, but I called within the 48hrs and KCL came out to rectify the problem. Thankyou
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Clearly a nice guy, for sharing his information....I think the company is only trying to help you guys not misinform you. But dont slate what he has, because he might of been told that himself. Remember how you would like to be treated yourself. No wounder he has deleted his account.. Just my opinon guys and gals. This forum is to help people.
The wind and rain is a pain in the butt.
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Clearly a nice guy, for sharing his information....I think the company is only trying to help you guys not misinform you. But dont slate what he has, because he might of been told that himself. Remember how you would like to be treated yourself. No wounder he has deleted his account.. Just my opinon guys and gals. This forum is to help people.
The wind and rain is a pain in the butt.
Are you on medication ?
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Your Opinion Mate...
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The end of the day what MJHolmes put on here is purely got all your backs up for some reason or another, but what he has put is purely to help you, even if it is not true, he could of been told it himself, and decided to post it on here to help others. I dont care in the slightest what you lot do but i will be following it up for my business just to make sure, and i respect him for bringing it up Thankyou MJHolmes. I bet you have all visited the website from the link.