UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: cannon on October 02, 2011, 05:21:12 pm
Title: commercial pricing
Post by: cannon on October 02, 2011, 05:21:12 pm
Im still finding pricing commercial work up a bit of a headache, ive been pricing by estimating how long i think the job will take x by how much id like an hour. I would like to know what im equating to per m2 so ive bought a laser measure to use on a quote tomorow.
What id like to no is what other people are charging price for maintenance cleaning and price for hwe per m2, Just for comparison as i think i could be squeezing a little more but still want to be competitive.
Any help appreciated
Thanks
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 02, 2011, 05:44:32 pm
For HWE I charge £3.50 a metre, LM cheaper but this is for larger areas and when applicable, I have come to the thinking of if I'm going to get it then make it worth my while, I have the same conversion rate as I used to when going on hourly rate but I find that per metre I get far more money usual take up is quarter to a third of customers which I said is the same as when I did hourly rate, on Saturday I cleaned an office with 160 sq m. it took me 2 hours usually I would have said £240.00 but got a lot more out of it, but that's my way as I could have done other things etc depends on how much you want the work.
Shaun
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Simon Moat on October 02, 2011, 06:18:44 pm
I find when pricing commercials just quote exactly what you want from the job plus 10%, if then successful you've had a result, if they think it's a little expensive you've got good room manoeuvre.
Last good size commercial we did was for a public house, the brewery wanted three quotes, we submitted ours at £675, we got the job, on the day of the job the landlord said he was pleased we got the nod but was surprised as the other quotes were £350 and £190!!
This job was two days work.
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Len Gribble on October 02, 2011, 07:17:50 pm
Unfortunately don’t do maintenance cleans ;) but if I did it would be a lot cheaper ;D
Ah the nod ::) :-X
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Richard Basey-Fisher on October 02, 2011, 07:19:20 pm
to be honest asking about comm pricing on here will prob leave you more confused so basically anything between 50 p a sq m and £4 and your about there LOL.
All i will say is way up each job I personally think its more important to take the time factor into account . way up all the factors
1 how you will clean it 2 access can you park outside 3 is it empty 4 are you moving furniture 5 is it really grubby
most important of all make sure you provide make sure you have your terms and conditions on your quotation or on a sep sheet stating your payment terms .
no point in working for nothing .
i really think its important not to get bogged down by price per area its more important to work out what your time is worth on that specific job
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: cannon on October 02, 2011, 07:26:46 pm
Thanks for the replies
This is what causes the headache at times i feel like im just plucking a figure out of the air, down to my relative inexperience with pricing commercial. Im sure it gets easier the more i get under my belt but at the min i think having a m2 price structure in place would be a big help.
something along the lines of first 100m2 at x amount then discount above that and obviously 2 separate prices for maintenance and hwe.
Does anyone prefer pricing in square ft? i think it sounds better.
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 02, 2011, 07:37:29 pm
I think there are too many variables with commercial jobs to work on a sq/ft price.
I work on an hourly price based on how long the job will take, but I still put on show of measuring the job and always quote an uneven number when giving the price eg; $237.50p then round it down to £230.
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Jim_77 on October 02, 2011, 07:43:59 pm
Karl, drop me an email and I'll send something over to you that might help out a bit :)
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: cannon on October 02, 2011, 07:51:15 pm
karl@carpetcleaners-sunderland.co.uk
Thanks Jim
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: AshWhite on October 02, 2011, 07:52:41 pm
Sounds interesting Jim, any chance you could send me a copy too? Ashley@floors2show.co.uk
Apologies if this starts a bandwagon..
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Len Gribble on October 02, 2011, 08:11:07 pm
Nothing wrong in plucking a figure out of the air if you know what the other quotes are and you are happy, did turn a job away competition quoted £3500 and went too £1600 I quoted £7500
Jim
I need all the help I can get, can I have a copy please (lenpg@btinternet.com)
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Jim_77 on October 02, 2011, 08:30:50 pm
Quote
Apologies if this starts a bandwagon..
:-[
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: garyfindlay on October 02, 2011, 10:29:51 pm
Jim,
Can I jump on the bandwagon please ;D
info@elitecleaningsolutions.co.uk
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: AshWhite on October 03, 2011, 11:57:13 am
Cheers Jim, much appreciated
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Billy Russell on October 03, 2011, 12:25:57 pm
Karl, drop me an email and I'll send something over to you that might help out a bit :)
Is it a calculator with a bigger screen?
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Jim_77 on October 03, 2011, 09:04:01 pm
It's an abacus with a few extra rows of beads on it ;)
Stuff sending 300 emails to people, help yoursleves if you can catch it :D
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WXF9GJDU :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: peter maybury on October 03, 2011, 09:59:59 pm
It is very much how long is a piece of string. I do a lot of commercial work and if you would like to call for a chat give me a bell by all means on 07788621555.... Peter www.carpetcleanercardiff.com (http://www.carpetcleanercardiff.com)
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: cannon on October 03, 2011, 11:02:59 pm
I had a look at a job friday priced it up in my head at £215, called in today with the bumf ins etc so decided to measure it up see where i was at. Basicaly its a corridor with a couple of different sized sections, come in at just under 100 m2 decided to stick with £215 and got it.
I know ultimatley its how long it takes you to do that decides whether youve got it right or not but i think im about there.
Only done a few commercials to date and must admit ive sold myself short on one or two.
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: mike ross on October 12, 2011, 08:04:11 pm
Just started on here i'll have one to please jim :D
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: Jim_77 on October 13, 2011, 01:20:03 am
I posted a link to the file, earlier in the thread mate ;)
Title: Re: commercial pricing
Post by: mike ross on October 13, 2011, 08:47:34 am