Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mike Halliday on October 29, 2005, 11:50:20 am
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I have been asked by DP Design to post this advert (Mike has given his permission)
Clean it up Members Discount Leaflets
I have 100's of different designs for carpet cleaners - pole fed window cleaners
and flat servicing cleaning, which can be modified for individual members
or alternatively, I can design a new leaflet from scratch Free of Charge.
I will be offering an after hours service were members will be able to
discuss there requirements between 6.30 and 8.45pm Monday to Friday.
These are the prices for prices include delivery to any
UK mainland address and are fully inclusive of artwork & plates
10,000 Full Colour 80gm £112.00
10,000 Single Colour 80gm £57.00
20,000 2 colour 80gm £115.00
Larger quantities by arrangement
Average turn a around on jobs would be 5 working days from proof
of artwork
Kind Regards
Mark
D.P. Design & Print
Shop Address 244 Spring Bank Hull HU3 1LU
Tel: 01482 325919 9.00am -5.00pm
Fax 01482 210245
Mobile 07738 224 199
After Hours 6.30pm -8.45pm for Carpet Cleaners / Window Cleaners only
01482 376081
Email: Print@nathan12.karoo.co.uk
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Have you got any samples?
Cheers Gary
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gary i have had some done excellent value, doubt it will be beaten
geoff
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Hi mark
Did you work at Tradeprint ?
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Hi Mike,
I work for a print company and have to say those prices seem really competitive.
I would like to see a sample of the design they have done for wfp, if you would be so kind to forward it to me.
Finally, what brand of paper are they printed on - I am interested in the f/c option.
Regards,
Sarah
PS: Worth posting this on both w/c sections as a lot dont venture outside ;D
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mark was a partner in Tradeprint, but has now set up his own company.
he has a amazing knowledge on carpet cleaning ( his brother has a C/C company) and a large selection of stock Photos.
the paper is 80g white, the ones he did for me were on Zerox laser copier paper.
ring him for a sample pack
Mike
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Mark (Mike)
I used to be a customer of Tradeprint. I found the quality of the work to be poor, the number of spoils, especially on the last lot, was very very high, somewhere like 3k on 20k leaflets AND my last order was short by 3k leaflets (which was eventually sorted). Also getting the artwork proofed how I wanted it was difficult, even with me giving up and going with what I was given as it was nearly right. Also, delivery of 20k leaflets was in one box, which typically arrived split and had been taped up by the courier. When you are delivering 5k a week and your leaflets have been delivered in one box then that means someone has got to count 5k of leaflets every week!
I am currently using a local printer, a little more expensive than tradeprint BUT.. my leaflets are in boxes of 2,500 and there is probably 3 or 4 spoils in 20k AND I get the proof I want.
What are you offering that is different to Tradeprint, especially at those prices..
Chris Bailey, Liberty Cleaning Services.
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Mark (Mike)
I used to be a customer of Tradeprint. I found the quality of the work to be poor, the number of spoils, especially on the last lot, was very very high, somewhere like 3k on 20k leaflets AND my last order was short by 3k leaflets (which was eventually sorted). Also getting the artwork proofed how I wanted it was difficult, even with me giving up and going with what I was given as it was nearly right. Also, delivery of 20k leaflets was in one box, which typically arrived split and had been taped up by the courier. When you are delivering 5k a week and your leaflets have been delivered in one box then that means someone has got to count 5k of leaflets every week!
I am currently using a local printer, a little more expensive than tradeprint BUT.. my leaflets are in boxes of 2,500 and there is probably 3 or 4 spoils in 20k AND I get the proof I want.
What are you offering that is different to Tradeprint, especially at those prices..
Chris Bailey, Liberty Cleaning Services.
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??? ??? ???
Don't understand Mark!
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Chris,
the difference been now is that MarK at D.P Design and Print will be seeing every order through from start to finish ie art work - printing - packaging every order will be given his sole attention/guarantee,
a bit like some of us cc who will not let anybody else on the tools in fear of standards not been met ;)
Conrad
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So will I get a high number of spoils, which I always got from Tradeprint, will the leaflets be delivered in one big box of 20,000 taped up by the courier or smaller quantities of 2,500 or even 5,000? will the artwork be what I ask for?
And if I had two people working for me with 20yrs experience then I would be happy to let the tools go...
These are my experiences with Tradeprint, I am sure Mark will ensure things are different with his new company and I wish him the best. If I get the right response then I may consider giving Mark a go.
Still begs the question, £115 for 20k, what would be missing.. we always go on about splash n dash, and I'm not suggesting Mark is the printing games equivalent and that's a promotional price I am sure.. BUT........ £102 less less than tradeprint?
Chris
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I Have spent fortunes on printing in the past, cant fault the quality and price at DP design. he gets my thumbs up.
Kind regards Phil
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DP design now have a collection of 20-15 electronic samples of carpet cleaning leaflets ready to send out.
every thing from dry fusion, truckmount, 'Joe Polish' asthma control, portable, half price offer etc..etc
I've got them on my computer so if you want to see a perticular one give me your email and i'll forward it too you.
MIke
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Mike
Send me the Tm ones please.
mk.roberts@ntlworld.com
thanks
Mark
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Mark I had my mail returned, reason given;
Reason: 550 Invalid recipient
did you give me the right address?
Mike
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Mike Dp sent me the leaflets in pdf format but sample 5 has nothing attatched have you got the above file?
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Yep, whats your email and I'll send it to you
Mike
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gunnysafc@yahoo.co.uk
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mike
please will you foward the t/m one
dave@cleaner-carpets.co.uk
thanks
dave
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I've got to say the truckmount ones are'nt selling the benefits of T/M only contain their pictures.
dave I'll send you some, I hope you have broadband
Mike
Ps; the are in collection of 6s in a pdf format
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thanks mike they look very good looks like i will be contacting mark in the very near future
thanks again
dave
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Hi Mike
Could you send me some samples please. I have a portable set up so any relating to this would be appreciated.
r.robertson3@ntlworld.com
kind regards
tihson
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Hi mike I have recently upgraded to a truck mount and use dry fusion could you send me some samples
Many thanks Bob
allencarpetclean@ntlworld.com
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Mike
Can you send all!
lenpg@btinternet.com
Len
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While you at it, although if they are the same as Trade Print I think Ive got them.
Portable, Joe Polish, Britains most popular leaflet, Britains second most Popular leaflet. Special Offers.
iangourlay@yahoo.co.uk
many thanks
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Ian & Len have you any intention of buying leaflets off DP design? or are you just interested in looking,
I think your a couple of tire kickers so I can't be ar@sed to send them to you.
Mike
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hi mike could you send me some samples at
rmiddleton04@aol.com
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Mike so do you not deal with Ahmed anymore ???
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Steve I still deal with hamad but Marks also a mate so i don't helping him out.
Mike
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Hi Mike
There is a problem with my e-mail link above .When you click on it the r. at the start is missing ??? if you have sent the samples i did not recieve them.it has been sent to robertson3@ntlworld.com instead of r.robertson3@ntlworld.com could you please send again thanks.
kind regards
tihson
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Thanks Mike, email received, got to go and kick a tyre ;D ;D ;D
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hi mike
As you can see im new to carpet cleaning & clean it up and would love to get a regular supplier of leaflets, could you please send me all the samples to linacalo@aol.com greatly appreciated thank you
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Mike thanks for the samples...very helpfull
which reminds me
who came second and third in the "Britains most helpfull carpet cleaner" ? ;)
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there was'nt a & 2nd or 3rd
just the number 1
Mike 'helpful' Halliday
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I remember now seeing you with the trophy in Amsteram ;)
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You're getting mixed up, that when i won european carpet cleaner of the year (2005)
(http://img317.i.us/img317/5343/me5qp.jpg)
Mike
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You crack me up.........great bit of marketing though
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Mike
I don’t kick tyres may let them down though!
Thanks for the e-mail one dose not buy on word alone any more!
Thanks again and the answer possibley/probably.
Len
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Does this offer still exist?? ???
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lastest price list
DISCOUNT CARPET CLEANING LEAFLETS
10,000 A5 80gm Bond One Colour Leaflets only £54.00
20,000 A5 80gm Bond One Colour Leaflets only £99.00
10,000 A5 80gm Bond Two Colour Leaflets only £77.00
20,000 A5 80gm Bond Two Colour Leaflets only £129.00
50,000 A6 80gm Bond Full Colour Leaflets only £209.00
March special offers
1000 Full Colour Business Cards £39.00+vat
2000 Full Colour Business Cards £68.00 + Vat
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Good prices! Do you guys use A4 or A5 for best results ? Geoff
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yes please mike i am looking at printers at the moment
spindle2k@hotmail.com
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www.leafletsforyou.co.uk (http://www.leafletsforyou.co.uk)
here's there web address.
Mike
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Samples of D P carpet leaflets here
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=34175.0
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I recently placed an order with Mark at DP for 10k A5 glossy flyers and 1000 cards, and provided artwork.
Delivery was promised for a week that Friday, and..............they never came.
No problem, back on the phone and delivery was promised for the following Tuesday, and.......................................................................they never came.
Back on the phone and the business cards were sent out overnight as promised, but had a spelling mistake on them :o (the flyers to follow on the Friday again)
Friday arrives and the flyers don't and its back on the phone, I'm told that I will get a return call within 10 minutes after the courier has been called to see whats happened to them, an hour later I get a young lad calling me to say that the courier has returned the flyers to them by mistake ???
After telling them not to bother with the flyers and just to return my money I got another call asking if I wanted them the following Tuesday at half price to which I agreed, guess what, they never came!
Another call to them and Mark said that he had had problems with the press and that he could have them with me by that Friday (thought they had been printed a week ago ???).
The last time I spoke to them I was offered the flyers free as a good will gesture as they had to finish them to get some other customers work done that was batched with them, once again they never turned up (although in their defence the cheque did arrive).
So over a month after the flyers were ordered I took the job to a local printer who although 50 quid dearer got me the cards and flyers done within 3 days without any delays, couriers returning non existent flyers or other excuse.
That said I still think Mark at DP is a pleasant bloke but I do feel that if there's a problem with an order you could let the customer know about it, Andy
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Id have to say the service i received was great, delivered on time only slight problem was a slight spelling mistake and had failed to note we clean leather. I brought this to Marks attention and he offered to reprint foc, but we agreed that he would do me another 10000 for 27.00 and allow me to keep the existing 10000 that means i have 20000 leaflets for £81.00. That should keep me going for a couple of months and at £15.00 per 1000 for delivery i would consider this low cost advertising.
John
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don't you lads see proofs of your ad before giving the go ahead?
Marks a decent bloke who just like us is trying to run a bussiness, he not perfect and sometimes makes mistakes,
most of his customers are happy with his service, but he can get it wrong. such is life
Mike
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yes Mike...as you know I did ask for a proof and declined any further order as I was not happy with the proof...then was called by Mark and told to take any further business elsewhere in future.
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I think he was getting pi$$ed of with people getting him to do art work then not getting any work done,
if you ask him to do art work it means you want some leaflets, if you are not happy with a proof then he will change it until you are, to just tell him after he has spent time designing a leaflet you aren't going to bother is just inconsiderate
its like us giving 'free' estimates, if I got a call from someone and i spent 2 hrs going out to give them a 'free' estimate then they say they can't be bothered to have the work done I wouldn't be too happy, even though I offer to give 'free' estimates.
to ask for something that is offered for free implies you have an intention to place an order.
anyhow that's how I see it ;) ;) ;)
Mike
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Mike...he is your mate and does your leaflets for free so you are a bit biased... ;D
That is exactly what a proof is...a design of your ideas for you to judge the quality before agreeing to an order.
I actually think he does a great job for many people...his design for me was not up to my expectations and the fact that the design was delayed on several occasions due to problems with his email system or printer...well, it never filled me with much confidence in what I was going to receive for my money.
Even on his site, he displays many sample leaflets and there are many spelling errors... ???
You cannot be serious about offering free estimates but actually expect everyone to book you... ;D ;D
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Not being good at spelling myself.
But its up to Carpet Cleaner to proof read.
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Steve you judge quality by looking at the samples on his website, not asking for a proof, plus how can you judge quality with an pdf email.
if some one ask my to give them a quote, I expect them to book unless;
1) they can't afford me ..or
20 I cannot fit into their time scale.
look at it from Marks point of view, someone can go onto his website see over 100 example of his leaflets and can see the prices he charges, why ask for a proof unless you are going to place an order.
Mike
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because not one of his samples represent anything similar to what I wanted...simple.
I have shown on here the leaflet he came up with and I can tell you it bore not a scrap of what I would have posted in my target area.
I have no idea how you cannot see my point. I have an idea about how I would like my leaflet to look and I email this to a printer. He puts together a sample idea for me and emails it to me for approval or editing. I see certain things I do not like or would like changed and email these to the printer...eventually, we reach a point where the leaflet is exactly how I want it...lets face it, it is important that the leaflet is how I want it...then I place an order for required amount.
If the printer is not happy to work with me on a design, then what does he expect me to do...place an expensive order for thousands of leaflets that will end up in landfill sites...???
If you went into a travel agents with £2k to spend on a holiday and asked for a double, sea view room with dinner every night in a particular coastal resort in Northern Spain...and you ended up with tickets to an all inclusive dive in Benidorm...what would you do ???
I do not believe for a second you would accept that would you...?
You would sit there with the travel agent and explain in no uncertain terms what it is exactly that you want...if they could not give you the holiday you wanted, you would walk away and go to another travel agents who could.
You certainly wouldn`t say to your wife:
"well, let`s be honest love, we took up a couple of hours of his time and Benidorm isn`t that bad really"
Another thing...I do not judge the quality of the leaflet...I judge the content.
On the subject of free offers, I take it then that when you were ambling around Benidorm, if you were accosted by a timeshare agent offering you a free afternoon at a wonderful resort with all the trimmings included...that you would go along and because you had availed yourself of a few free beers and a couple of hot dogs...you would commit to a multi-thousand pound purchase of a timeshare apartment in the complex because you had wasted a couple of hours of that nice young mans time... ;D
Mike...come on :) :) :)
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I think we both have a different point of view on this, so we'll call it quits :) :)
hopefully you got some leaflets from somewhere and they brought in loads of work :D :D
Mike
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no... ;D
( I could lie of course and say I was earning thousands cleaning carpets....but it is seriously tough work I think)
I was expressing my reservations to the wife earlier on and I asked her how many times in 16 years had we engaged the services of a carpet cleaner...not one solitary occasion!!!
I take my hat off to whoever is earning a wage cleaning carpets because it is not easy work and the chances of things goling wrong are always there.
I have £3K worth of brand new kit sitting in my shed and I am thinking it was a bit of a mistake... :o :o
Still...I`ll either return it or get more on Ebay... :D (I hope)
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Steve do you know them leaflets i showed you on friday ,you said they where preety smart quess who did them for me
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I actually think he does a great job for many people...his design for me was not up to my expectations
they were very good John...but as stated above, I believe he does a great job for many people...but my leaflet was pretty dire.
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The printer at the bni I attend pulled the printing to bits from Dp print colour run,colour bleed and the fact it was on 70g paper not 80g how many of your customers would actually notice these errors?At the end of the day you get what you pay for my leaflets cost £240 for 20000 and they bring the work in so why would I want to pay £480 for glossy leaflets.
Mark is a straightforward guy who is doing his best which will never be good enough for some people ::)