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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steve_c on September 24, 2011, 10:08:43 am

Title: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Steve_c on September 24, 2011, 10:08:43 am
I'm up here in Lincolnshire visiting the outlaws, got chatting to my mother in law and she tells me she has been canvased 3 times this week,and one said what are you paying? we are guaranteed to be cheaper. now let me think??????
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: king marko on September 24, 2011, 10:47:08 am
Whereabouts in Lincs chap?? Not come across this yet where i am (Grantham) but im sure i'll happen soon The swines :)
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Steve_c on September 24, 2011, 10:52:30 am
Sleaford
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Steve_c on September 24, 2011, 10:57:02 am
Mark you can help me out mate,I'm off to football tomorrow i need to get the train from Grantham. How long by car to Grantham from sleaford?
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: king marko on September 24, 2011, 11:12:20 am
about 20mins mate probably less if you floor it
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: windiewasher on September 25, 2011, 07:43:24 pm
who is it m8?

I'm up here in Lincolnshire visiting the outlaws, got chatting to my mother in law and she tells me she has been canvased 3 times this week,and one said what are you paying? we are guaranteed to be cheaper. now let me think??????
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: scud on September 25, 2011, 08:31:19 pm
i will bet you its this mob Clean Safe Window Cleaning they will undercut there own mother to get a job ..... FACT.......

  It has now also become apparent that they will then also ramp up the price after a few cleans - the usual old trick!
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: windiewasher on September 25, 2011, 08:38:50 pm
really? thats terrible! do they wear body armour?
i will bet you its this mob Clean Safe Window Cleaning they will undercut there own mother to get a job ..... FACT.......

  It has now also become apparent that they will then also ramp up the price after a few cleans - the usual old trick!
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Frankybadboy on September 25, 2011, 09:51:08 pm
probaly the same lot thats in andover ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: windiewasher on September 26, 2011, 09:49:33 am

 :o
probaly the same lot thats in andover ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: MNWC on September 27, 2011, 07:50:18 pm
I was told today that the same company had canvassed a village near to me. This is the conversation-

Them "Hello im xxxxxx from xxxxxxxx would you be interested in a regular window cleaning service ?

My brother "No thanks ive already got a regular window cleaner" (me).

Them "Well we can beat that price by a pound"

My brother "No thanks, goodbye"

This is a quote from themselves -

Quote
Under cutting
CSWC have no intention to undercut other cleaners but to look for opportunities to be able to deliver a quality service at a competitive and fair price.

I can tell you now, other window cleaners in that same village are not happy !
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: steve rix on September 27, 2011, 08:00:41 pm
they will be on here soon to say its not true and if you say otherwise they will sue you
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: king marko on September 27, 2011, 08:18:00 pm
None of my customers have been approached yet in Grantham - however, I also cover a couple of towns about 20 miles from here and several have been canvassed by a rival firm saying they will undercut me, and by several pounds in some cases (£17.50 house - custy was told they could do it for £11)
Thankfully only lost a few customers and they were the most recent ones so wouldnt expect any loyalty !!
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: scud on September 27, 2011, 08:42:29 pm
they will be on here soon to say its not true and if you say otherwise they will sue you

  They won't be doing that, there is a lot of proof out there now. unfortuantly for them they seem to have not noticed window cleaners in areas tend to be friendly and talk to each other.
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 27, 2011, 08:48:18 pm
they will be on here soon to say its not true and if you say otherwise they will sue you
let em sue!!! its only libel if its not true ;D
the "we will sue you" stuff only kicked off cos some muppet misread and /or misinterpreted one of my posts about them canvassing the customers of wc ers on their training courses....which they have done, but not by design just by coincidence

it would be refreshing if they just dropped all the pretence about not undercutting and just put their hands up though, just said this is how we intend to expand our business deal with it

dont get me wrong i would still think they were C****
but at least they would be honest C****
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: steve rix on September 27, 2011, 08:59:52 pm
But surely they wont do that!! they need other w/cers to go on their courses. Would you go on a course run by someone who KNOWINGLY undercuts?
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: scud on September 27, 2011, 09:01:49 pm
But surely they wont do that!! they need other w/cers to go on their courses. Would you go on a course run by someone who KNOWINGLY undercuts?

  having seen them working I think I could give them a lesson
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: stuart mc on September 27, 2011, 09:08:38 pm
But surely they wont do that!! they need other w/cers to go on their courses. Would you go on a course run by someone who KNOWINGLY undercuts?

I couldn't give a toss, they are running a business not a charity or friends society, and if they ever run a course in Scotland I would go, but they won't, deary me whether you are one man or 100 men outfits, you are running a business and you have to deal with competition, you can't rig pricing it is illegal, it is a free market and they can do whatever price they like. doesn't feel nice when it happens to you but that is life :(

I will dig for cover now ;D
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 27, 2011, 09:12:22 pm
But surely they wont do that!! they need other w/cers to go on their courses. Would you go on a course run by someone who KNOWINGLY undercuts?
i did actually do one day of their three day course(before all this undercutting/aggressive marketing thing kicked off
i jacked it in because i thought it was not much use to a sole trader
more geared up for health and safety
 for employees and employers not one man bands
but to answer your question.....NO i would not
all this course funding dries up soon tho gov cuts and all that
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Frankybadboy on September 27, 2011, 09:15:06 pm
But surely they wont do that!! they need other w/cers to go on their courses. Would you go on a course run by someone who KNOWINGLY undercuts?

I couldn't give a toss, they are running a business not a charity or friends society, and if they ever run a course in Scotland I would go, but they won't, deary me whether you are one man or 100 men outfits, you are running a business and you have to deal with competition, you can't rig pricing it is illegal, it is a free market and they can do whatever price they like. doesn't feel nice when it happens to you but that is life :(

I will dig for cover now ;D
would you like the spade stu.trippy got one a spade ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: stuart mc on September 27, 2011, 09:17:09 pm
But surely they wont do that!! they need other w/cers to go on their courses. Would you go on a course run by someone who KNOWINGLY undercuts?

I couldn't give a toss, they are running a business not a charity or friends society, and if they ever run a course in Scotland I would go, but they won't, deary me whether you are one man or 100 men outfits, you are running a business and you have to deal with competition, you can't rig pricing it is illegal, it is a free market and they can do whatever price they like. doesn't feel nice when it happens to you but that is life :(

I will dig for cover now ;D
would you like the spade stu.trippy got one a spade ;D ;D

aye ask trippy for his spade he keeps in the basement ;D
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 27, 2011, 09:18:59 pm
But surely they wont do that!! they need other w/cers to go on their courses. Would you go on a course run by someone who KNOWINGLY undercuts?

I couldn't give a toss, they are running a business not a charity or friends society, and if they ever run a course in Scotland I would go, but they won't, deary me whether you are one man or 100 men outfits, you are running a business and you have to deal with competition, you can't rig pricing it is illegal, it is a free market and they can do whatever price they like. doesn't feel nice when it happens to you but that is life :(

I will dig for cover now ;D
i dont care about competition if its honest
and who mentioned pricefixing?????
i did a council house today for 7 quid
said sorry thats about best i can do  (had to move van she was 5 doors up road)
she said thats fine the last bloke was charging 12 quid!!!
..........oooh suddenly i realised something :o
they would have got the job for 11 quid :o :o
hmmmm maybe thats how it works!!!
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Frankybadboy on September 27, 2011, 09:25:40 pm
do you lot live in the real world,reading what some of you write is unbeiveable.




course when you go to put fuel in your vans/car you always go to the dearest petrol station,yes right you do.
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: mark311069 on September 27, 2011, 09:43:35 pm
i would like to comment but i got this email today after naming the company on this thread



Hi Mark,

Your posts regarding "Clean Safe Window Cleaning" has been removed from the forum. This is for the sake ofall as your comments were libel and could be used against yourselves by said company.

You cannot continue to post negatively about said company without evidence as they will press charges as
we have been warned. The forum can be used as a means of evidence.

Thanks for cooperating,

Regards,

 

Mitch Evans
Clean It Up Administrator

Clean It Up Forum
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 27, 2011, 09:45:54 pm
i would like to comment but i got this email today after naming the company on this thread



Hi Mark,

Your posts regarding "Clean Safe Window Cleaning" has been removed from the forum. This is for the sake ofall as your comments were libel and could be used against yourselves by said company.

You cannot continue to post negatively about said company without evidence as they will press charges as
we have been warned. The forum can be used as a means of evidence.

Thanks for cooperating,

Regards,

 i wondered where your post went!!! ;D ;D ;D

Mitch Evans
Clean It Up Administrator

Clean It Up Forum

i wondered where your post went ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: R W C™ on September 27, 2011, 09:46:54 pm
lol that is rediculous, so glad I didnt go on the course they asked me to go on, how can they press charges how would it stand in court....
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 27, 2011, 09:48:18 pm
do you lot live in the real world,reading what some of you write is unbeiveable.




course when you go to put fuel in your vans/car you always go to the dearest petrol station,yes right you do.
actually i go to the nearest one because driving to the cheapest takes half an hour and then i have to drive home again ;D
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Frankybadboy on September 27, 2011, 09:48:43 pm
i would like to comment but i got this email today after naming the company on this thread



Hi Mark,

Your posts regarding "Clean Safe Window Cleaning" has been removed from the forum. This is for the sake ofall as your comments were libel and could be used against yourselves by said company.

You cannot continue to post negatively about said company without evidence as they will press charges as
we have been warned. The forum can be used as a means of evidence.

Thanks for cooperating,

Regards,

 

Mitch Evans
Clean It Up Administrator

Clean It Up Forum

well then you bettre remove every post on ciu cause they could  all be libel then

what did you email back,
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: stuart mc on September 27, 2011, 09:53:12 pm
Time for a independent forum where people are allowed to say what they want.
Also if this outfit ever try to undercut me everyone will know and they may regret it.
i would like to comment but i got this email today after naming the company on this thread



Hi Mark,

Your posts regarding "Clean Safe Window Cleaning" has been removed from the forum. This is for the sake ofall as your comments were libel and could be used against yourselves by said company.

You cannot continue to post negatively about said company without evidence as they will press charges as
we have been warned. The forum can be used as a means of evidence.

Thanks for cooperating,

Regards,

 

Mitch Evans
Clean It Up Administrator

Clean It Up Forum


why what will you do? they aren't breaking any laws
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 27, 2011, 09:56:22 pm
I dont give 2 fishes tits if they try and undercut me
undercutting is stupid cos you dont know what price your starting at
you might get lucky but mostly you will not
i just object to this balls about libel
if they want to build alarge low priced round that runs two vans and employs four blokes then go for it
its the holier than thou poop that gets my back up
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: mark311069 on September 28, 2011, 05:50:25 pm
would you belive it this window cleaning company left a leaflet at my house today. they left a estimate on the leaflet of the price to clean my house. so its guess the price time, my dorma bungalow has two large bay windows two sets of patio doors, two normal front and back doors and four more large windows plus they say they will clean my garage door as well....   so guess the price??????????
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: windiewasher on September 28, 2011, 06:07:02 pm
7 quid.
would you belive it this window cleaning company left a leaflet at my house today. they left a estimate on the leaflet of the price to clean my house. so its guess the price time, my dorma bungalow has two large bay windows two sets of patio doors, two normal front and back doors and four more large windows plus they say they will clean my garage door as well....   so guess the price??????????
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Frankybadboy on September 28, 2011, 06:36:36 pm
lets see the flyer then
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: mark311069 on September 28, 2011, 06:50:41 pm
here we are then the back of the leaflet with price

£4.85
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: windiewasher on September 28, 2011, 07:08:58 pm
here we are then the back of the leaflet with price

£4.85

Lol bargain.might copy there leaflet.I like it.
Cheers clean and  safe.
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: Micky Boy on September 28, 2011, 07:18:13 pm
hi mark at number 22

There was no dot in that price when i droped it. it was £485 pound its called a joke :)
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: R W C™ on September 28, 2011, 07:25:08 pm
hi mark at number 22

There was no dot in that price when i droped it. it was £485 pound its called a joke :)

Is he not number 5 ?
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 28, 2011, 10:05:24 pm
looks like 4 . 85 on the pic ???
looks like the . is pre printed ???
mind you what kind of nob end quotes £4.85 as a price.................
Title: Re: Lincolnshire Window Cleaners
Post by: windiewasher on September 28, 2011, 10:40:18 pm
clean something or other from boston  ;D
looks like 4 . 85 on the pic ???
looks like the . is pre printed ???
mind you what kind of nob end quotes £4.85 as a price.................