Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: andrew tapsell on September 22, 2011, 11:23:10 pm
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any of you guys tried dry fusion carpet cleaner
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Hi Andrew iv'e been using the dry fusion setup for 2 years and think it's great mate very good setup and easy to use.
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Hi Phil,
we have just decided to add carpet cleaning to our services which are currently comm kitchen cleaning and extraction systems, we have been looking at the airflex storm, without sounding to naive what are the main advantages of dry fusion as oposed to hwe, we are not going to take on any work until we have done the ncca course but am really in a fix as which way to go with the carpet cleaning.
we have purchased a second hand pro chem steempro but dont know if this will be adequate as the majority of our business is pubs.
Any help appreciated.
CJ
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Stick with water extraction for pubs.
Dry Fusion is a great system but would be my last choice for that type of environment.
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thanks for the advice, we have been toying with the idea for a few months after losing a well established pub contract after our carpet suby destroyed a carpet. Our expertise is in kitchens, pest control, and extractors.
we have just picked up a pub contract which is bigger than the one we lost but they want us to do carpets at the same time we do kitchens, ie overnight, so we are going to get the required training as dont want wet carpets when the pub opens at 9am, bet you cant which chain.
We really don't want to do carpets but the client is adamant no sub cons, basicly all or nothing.
can't afford or warrant a tm, is the storm the canines genitalia.
CJ
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i disagree on the pub thing iv'e done a few pubs and always had good results plus you can be in and out before they open with the carpet left dry.
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Do you have an alternative system?
I know back in my HOST distribution days they would tell me that it can be used for pub work. IN reality its quicker with a wand and an airmover.
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This is becoming a nightmare,
I thiought my mind was made up, we have at our disposal, numatic single speed, cleanfix duo speed, scrubber drier, pro chem steempro, no exp in carpet cleaning and a 4k budget.
I want great results and carpets dry in 6 hours tops, although I cant see the 9 am punters complaining the carpet is damp.
By the way we have 3 second hand air movers I imagine these would aid drying time ?
Feeling like a free loader now, anyone want to know anything about kitchens or ext systems, I can return the favour.
CJ
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I do lots of pubs , using rotary systems , obviously not thick black top throughout , but it will clean up well with a good rake/vac / spray/brush /pad on it , and be dry within 2 hours
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Phillip,
I'd love to see some before and after pictures of a pub being done with DF. Domestic too if you have any. Do you have a website?
Simon
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The only way to clean a pub carpet properly is with an RX20 and a TM, dry in an hour - simples.
Simon
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If it is thick blacktop then you use the shampoo brush, with plenty of fusion clean or HD microsplitter down, and then go over it again with pads, dry in an hour too.
simples too
;D ;D
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Is that what you carpet pro's call LM, which I assume and will stand coorected is low moisture.
I have exhausted the research and really don't want to do this but I have no choice, my head is in bits with micro splitters, was told will clean anything, pre spray, scrub, extract, does that mean more equipment, ie numatic over the carpet then extract with cc machine.
I need a drink. ;D
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Hector,
Do you use the DF system?
Simon
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I don't have a website no and as said restore as prespray with retore brush on blacktop the activator with the pads easy.
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when i took delivery of my dry fusion machine the guy came along to my social club where we cleaned one of the carpets so he could show me how to use the machine, that had some black top and i was impressed as to how well the df system cleaned the carpets. if it was a really bad carpet i can see how the first clean might take a little longer using df but i think regular subsequent cleans would be a lot easier.
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Regular cleans would become easier as after the 1st your stain block is applied so the next clean would be easier to remove the soils.
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No Simon just plain and simple LM machine
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I'll bet you can clean Hectares of carpet with it tho ;D
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I'll get your coat for you
;D ;D ;D
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Clare,
I have both Dry Fusion and HWE.
I HAVE done pubs with DF but there will come a point (usually determined by the level of soiling) where HWE is more suitable.
Generally speaking, the pub stuff is more likely to be restoration, rather than regular clean ups. You may find yourself getting bogged down and running out of time
Why not sub the carpet side to someone with a truckmount and concentrate on the other stuff yourself?
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clare
You have more than enough equipment go and get the training done before your head frys
Jim
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Andrew
Yes but never ever on a pub far too much black top well on the ones I do. I may post bonnet depending.
Phillip
(Restore as prespray) don’t you find it skinks to high heaven and you need to open every window
Clare
carpet suby destroyed a carpet and you lost the contract?????? As for We really don't want to do carpets but the client is adamant no sub cons, ways round that don’t tell them it’s a suby ;)
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Restore doesn't stink and it's only to be used as a prespray although i did use it with the pads when i ran out of activator lol.
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Restore doesn't stink
You have obviously never had to stand in a long queue in a garage in a very rough part of town; after your sprayer seal has blown and covered you head to foot in strong lavender perfume!
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Haha you mean a nice stink lol.
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Is that what you carpet pro's call LM, which I assume and will stand coorected is low moisture.
I have exhausted the research and really don't want to do this but I have no choice, my head is in bits with micro splitters, was told will clean anything, pre spray, scrub, extract, does that mean more equipment, ie numatic over the carpet then extract with cc machine.
I need a drink. ;D
Hi Claire,
I was in your position a while back and I decided to go with HWE. Its more versatile and will clean pretty much any carpet to a high standard. Dry Fusion and other low moisture systems are great and also have their own role in carpet cleaning but when dealing with a pub carpet I would always go with the HWE.
If you have a steempro why not just use that. i dont understand why you would want to spend between £2-3k on a dry fusion system when you've already got a hwe machine there.
yes it leaves the carpets wet but anything over 6-8 hours drying time is probably down to operator error rather than the hwe (unless its got a mechanical fault). this can be reduced by opening windows, doors to create airflow.
As for the process its not all that difficult and i would do it this way...
Step 1. - good vacuuming all over the carpet with a sebo (ideally bs36) or use whatever vac you have. anything is better than nothing.
Step 2 - depending on how dirty it is pre-spray with either something like prochems pre-spray gold (low level staining), ultrapac renovate (medium to high soiling) or if its really bad something like powerburst or traffic lane cleaner. Put down extra spray on the dirtiest areas and the traffic lanes (ie where people walk). in know people always say pre-test first but the chances are pub carpets are always minging and theres a good chance they havent seen the actual pattern in a while. If you're using powerburst or traffic lane cleaner dont leave it on too long.
Step 3 - you have to work this in with either a carpet brush or if you have an agitation machine like a sebo duo or scrubber/envirodri etc... this will make sure that the pre-spray goes all over the carpet fibres. you could even spray 4-6m2 at a time and go at it with a stiff handbrush if you dont have any of the others.
Step 4 - extract out all of the gunge with the steempro and hot hot water with something like fibre and fabric rinse to neutralise the ph and stop quick re-soiling.
Use your air movers to help up the drying times and go over the carpet with plenty of dry passes (without solution coming out) to get as much of the water out of the carpet as possible.
I hope this helps but HWE really is the best tool for really dirty carpets.
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I have used d/f successfully on pub carpets where noise would be an issue working after they close through the night,it takes twice as long as hwe but acceptable results can be achieved
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Phillip
So activator neutralise the smell of restore ;D
Steve
How many pads did you use? Yes noise could be an issue with a TM but a porty me at 07.45 last Sunday you try D/F’ing seats ;)