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Title: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Matt - aquatec on September 07, 2011, 09:41:43 am
So guys for connys and UPVC which is best for WFP cleaning????

or is there a better alternative???

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Spruce on September 07, 2011, 05:06:29 pm
I can't compare them as I haven't used Virosol on a conservatory clean yet. I have used tfr once and would never use it again. I left it too long before hosing off and it left TFR stains all over the UPVC which I spent hours removing with Jif and hard work.
I gave up on the side that was facing the neighbours and 6 years later with a wash every 6 weeks, the TFR stains as still there exactly as they were.

We used TRF in the garage valleting bay mainly on new cars to get rid of the wax protection coat they put on. It was sprayed it on with a hand pump, and then removed very quickly afterward with a steam cleaner. Occassionally we would use it on our company cars if they were really dirty, but we were warned not to let the stuff dry, especially in the sun of summer.

We used Virosol for the first time on some really dirty windows of a first clean, and even although the stuff dried on some windows before we got back to them, it worked fine.
But it is mainly used as a commercial kitchen degreaser.

I have used UBIK2000 which is made by the same company. It is fine from removing the algae and moss, but didn't help much to remove the stains from the UPVC roof bars and ridge, which is what i was really looking for.

One chap on a different forum suggests carefully spraying the roof with thin bleach to bring the stains off, but I'm a little scared to try it as its dangerous stuff.

Spruce.
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Matt - aquatec on September 07, 2011, 05:22:57 pm
Bump...
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 07, 2011, 05:28:43 pm
Only ever used VIRO-SOL and its always done me right as you have seen from my pics
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 07, 2011, 05:31:37 pm
Just got some viro-sol today so looking forwards to seeing how good this is  :)  hope it melts the grime away.. Let you no how good tomoro i've got a sh**ty connie roof to do tomoro morning but most people say its awesome stuff.
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: dave.e on September 07, 2011, 06:48:34 pm
i would say viro-sol over tfr any day i have promised to take photo's to prove how good viro-sol can be but have not got round to it yet but i have a house to do saturday with dirty window frames and sills and i mean dirty so will take camera out with me and take some and show ya.dave
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Matt - aquatec on September 07, 2011, 07:04:55 pm
Thanks Dave... pics would prove loads...
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: niceandclean on September 07, 2011, 07:27:39 pm
I've tried a lot of cleaners, 3 or 4 different TFR's, Caravan Cleaner, UBIK, Squeegee Off, Fairy Ect, but in my opinion you can't beat Viro-Sol.
Its fantastic on plastic!  ;D
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: C-Thru. on September 07, 2011, 07:29:17 pm
I have only used TFR and always had great results, just got to make sure you dilute properly! no stronger than 4%.
Thats probably where above post got 'streaks' on pvc from, too strong mix and allowing liquid to dry, BIG NO NO!
Wash off within 2-4 mins, never allow to dry. Always read the label, as they say.

Having read loads of previous posts I think most guys now use Virosol.
Also I have to agree with some other posts from previous lists, that TFR does sometimes leave the UPVC a little 'dull'
whereas a lot of guys on here claim Virosol always leaves It shiny 'like-new' every time, so I am going to order some next time out of interest to try.
Having said that, I tend to think that the 'dullness' of TFR is down to the age and condition of the UPVC in the first place, mainly its age, dullness comes on with years of fading anyway from the suns ultra violet rays.

Anyway heres a video I made from a job using TFR and you can clearly see there is NO dulness whatsoever!

Hope my experiences help you, mostly all was learned from this forum in the first place, so I enjoy passing on any info and tips.

Good luck
Goochie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTjl3nMe2UA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTjl3nMe2UA)
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 07, 2011, 07:55:40 pm
Do you want pictures of my work with virosol ? i could put up ALOT of them if you want
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 07, 2011, 08:03:21 pm
Just tried viro sol on the mrs golf alloys wheels and boy it's good stuff!!! Left it on for a few minutes and it's ripped the brake dust off I don't think I've ever seen her wheels so clean... Only charged her £12 as well lol..
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Matt - aquatec on September 07, 2011, 09:01:42 pm
bloody hell £12 to rip the mrs off... plus VAT I take it....  ;D
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: C-Thru. on September 07, 2011, 09:14:00 pm
Hope you got a regular clean out of her, £12 is cheap for a one off! lol
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Matt - aquatec on September 07, 2011, 09:17:36 pm
service with a smile... laways keep the custy happy... lol
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: C-Thru. on September 07, 2011, 09:26:48 pm
Mind you for £12 at least he gets to sleep with his customer! lol
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 07, 2011, 09:32:37 pm
Told her £12 on a one off clean or £8 every 4 weeks lol... No really thou this viro sol stuff rocks!!!!
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Matt - aquatec on September 07, 2011, 09:33:39 pm
any repeat visit bonus??? ;D
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Matt - aquatec on September 07, 2011, 09:34:23 pm
hey lets get back to being sensible.... so Virosol or TFR????
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: SB Cleaning on September 07, 2011, 09:39:47 pm
I cant comment on TFR as i have always used Virosol it does an excellent job.
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Mike55 on September 07, 2011, 09:42:09 pm
Guys, slightly off topic but could anyone let me know where the cheapest place is to buy Virosol at the mo?

Cheers Mike


Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 07, 2011, 09:46:39 pm
Where i get mine

www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk

What you have to remember is that its 5L and not a few sqieegee rubbers - so postage is higher
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Mike55 on September 07, 2011, 09:49:43 pm
Cheers bud...I think I will pick some of this up from the recommendations.

What sort of ratio do you mix?
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 07, 2011, 09:51:24 pm
Just got some at cleaning spot today for £5.48 
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Mike55 on September 07, 2011, 09:53:35 pm
what sort of delivery cost did you pay on that avo?
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 07, 2011, 09:56:22 pm
I am sure some one said 50ml viro sol to each 1 litre of water is this about right anyone??
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 07, 2011, 09:57:07 pm
I know cleaning warehouse is £7.50 p&p

i dilute 1:24 so a 5L bottle makes up 125L
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 07, 2011, 09:59:34 pm
About £5 ha ha as much as the product i no but in future I will buy it on my bigger orders with free delivery.
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Mike55 on September 07, 2011, 10:04:36 pm
yeah i need to order some more resin so i think i'll order a bottle with that and give it a go.

cheers for the info chaps
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: lee_dewing on September 07, 2011, 10:25:41 pm
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i dilute 1:24 so a 5L bottle makes up 125L

Blue frog; so 1 litre virosol to 24 litres water (does the ratio change if you use PURE WATER; i.e need less?) would help detergent go further.

If i used my wcw backpack which holds 18 litres; then 750ml virosol.

my brain hurts ;D
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: G & M on September 07, 2011, 10:45:20 pm
Guys do you spray the virasol on and leave for a few minutes or what way do you use it?
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: KS Cleaning on September 07, 2011, 10:58:47 pm
Most of you are talking about the results on the white upvc, but do you clean the panels on the conservatory roof with this as well?
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 07, 2011, 11:22:43 pm
Lee ... i mix into a 25L barrel and pour out what i need (water in first and i just use tap water)

KS cleaning .... yep - use it on the entire thing

G&M ... follow this link to how i dlean a conny roof  - page 2
[url]http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=130036.20[/url}
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: lee_dewing on September 07, 2011, 11:26:53 pm
thanks blue frog :)
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 07, 2011, 11:28:38 pm
Happy to help ;D
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 08, 2011, 04:16:33 pm
This is the first time using viro-sol on gutters today and it half the time of scrubbing.. Infact i didnt even need to scrub the dirt just fell off it.. Im pretty sure if this was a white gutter it would of looked like new..
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 08, 2011, 05:35:33 pm
Good innit

In the words of Slumpbuster ... your all 2 years behind me son ;D
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: SB Cleaning on September 08, 2011, 05:59:53 pm
Quote
i dilute 1:24 so a 5L bottle makes up 125L

Blue frog; so 1 litre virosol to 24 litres water (does the ratio change if you use PURE WATER; i.e need less?) would help detergent go further.

If i used my wcw backpack which holds 18 litres; then 750ml virosol.

my brain hurts ;D
I use a wcw backpack to apply virosol I usually  use about 300 ml and then fill it up with tap water.
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Avo on September 08, 2011, 06:02:57 pm
Better 2yrs than me been 4 years behind you but thanks for the advice and info matey it's great stuff tbh.
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: dave.e on September 08, 2011, 09:04:59 pm
just found this info it mite be useful

 http://www.cloverchem.co.uk/uk/info_sheets/virosol_326.pdf
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: jouk45 on September 08, 2011, 11:56:24 pm
i use ecover all the way, yes it is twice the price of virosol and tfr,  wfp is 100% eco-friendly, so i use ecover, so as not to off rail the whole eco friendly idea, (greener)
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: JUST GUTTERS on September 09, 2011, 01:29:30 am
jouk hows is it eco friendly when we waste so much water....also i would say the resin that we dump isnt so good for the eco system... ???
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 09, 2011, 07:05:08 am
I was going to post similar better clean.

Dont forget driving round in vans (diesel) aswell as charging batterys constantly, disguarding rubber. I reckon i could carry on but ive not long woke up ;D
Title: Re: VIROSOL or T.F.R????
Post by: Spruce on September 09, 2011, 07:53:28 am
jouk hows is it eco friendly when we waste so much water....also i would say the resin that we dump isnt so good for the eco system... ???

I disagree - we are only part of the water cycle, so whether it goes into the ground, evaporates or our waste r/o water goes in the drain, it will eventually join into this cycle.
I do agree with the resin situation though.