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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul Nevins on September 05, 2011, 06:56:25 pm
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Help needed for one of the resident newbies.
How much microsplitting prespay should be put down on say a 5mx5m room, before agitation and HWE ? Im arranging to get on a IICRC course in the near future, any help would be greatly appreciated in the meantime.
CHEERS! Paul. ;)
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Hi Paul
I usually spray just enough to lightly mist the carpet.I would say about just under a litre as a rough guess seems to work for me .
good Agitation is the key
Neil
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In most cases you will require no prespray or very little on at least 50% of the carpet. Concentrate your main efforts on the tracking and heavily soiled areas.
As suggested by Neil you only need to mist microsplitters and when aggitating just " feather in " the surrounding areas.
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By the sounds of it newby... you need to go on a training course to teach you the basics.
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An IICRC course and certification has always been high on my priorities list, the problem for me is the 800 mile round trip and 4 days out of my busy life. (its a flight in both directions, hire car, hotel 3 nights etc)
I am getting good results with my equipment and the little knowledge that I have gained over the past 3 months or so, but I do realise that I have tons to learn.
I am an oven cleaner, but due to demand I have slowly moved into CC'ing, I dont advertise yet and only take on work where I know I can get good results. Mainly friends and family and my oven customers. I will start advertising the CC'ing in the New Year when Ive done some courses and I'm a bit more clued up. 8)
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By the sounds of it newby... you need to go on a training course to teach you the basics.
to be fair Mick he did say he is going on a course at the start of the thread
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Who is Mick. His name is Monty. And also Monty next time read the thread carefully and then make a comment.
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Paul
You do NOT need to travel as far or seek paper qualifications to make you a competent and professional operator in this industry.
There are a number of PRACTICAL one day courses relatively close to you.
There are two companies in Newcastle and one near St Andrews who offer fairly comprehensive " hands on " training where you can gain enough information to give you the confidence and knowledge you may lack.
Many in this industry started " blind " and learned through experience, however, you have the massive resources of the internet available and by using the " search facility " you will find the answers to virtually any question you might have.
If you like the idea of having paper qualifications this can be obtained through the NCCA or the BICS.
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Hi Paul
I usually spray just enough to lightly mist the carpet.I would say about just under a litre as a rough guess seems to work for me .
good Agitation is the key
Neil
No wonder your tub of Blitz has lasted all these years Neil... ;D
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Who is Mick.
It is his real name, and if you read threads and post properly as you suggest you would have known that from a thread a few months back..
;D ;D ;D
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I was simply stating that a carpet cleaning course was needed. This is what has happened in this industry... hello............ wake up people............ doesnt even know how much presray to put down. The question is........... would you let a person clean your carpets when they have had no training? and well by the sounds of it doesnt know what they are doing. I am not knocking the guy ....but please, do the training before you clean peoples carpets. Simply by not knowing what you are doing is taking a massive risk and at the end of the day if you dont know how much prespray to put down.......can you actually identifie the fibres and construction. Whet you gonna do with a woven .....shrink springs to ming. Look mate do the training as you are taking a big risk in losing you business with just a simple job that goes wrong. PROTECT YOURSELF and do the training. Its hard work building a business and well you are taking a big risk. Yeh..... Yeh...... people will slate me for writing this but at the end of the day I am trying to help you and do not want anyone to lose thier business through someone suing them over something that was avoidable simply by learning the basics. My other advice would be to make sure you have insurance including treatment risk.
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I agree mate ;D ;D
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No fair comment mate - same in all areas of cleaning, if its available do it first!! - after training you may decide this game is not for you :o
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So Monty, what youre saying is that every successful carpet cleaner on here went on a formal training course before picking up a wand? surely not.
I appreciate what youre saying and agree that training is paramount, but I thought that the more experienced CC'ers on here wouldnt mind enlightening a newbie in the basic fundamentals until I get on a course. All the carpets that I have cleaned so far have been for friends and families, and some of my regular oven customers as a favour, they know my experience in carpet cleaning, or lack of it.
The IICRC certification and NCCA membership is important for me, as there are many people popping up round here with their ex rental rug doctor machines or equivalent, claiming professional service and results. It'll be my USP.
In the meantime, I'll just keep putting the prespray down with the watering can! agitate with the bog brush and finish off with the henry!
Lighten up guy, I hear what your saying! ;)
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Consider a 'buddy' or an experienced cleaner not in your area but not too far away whose willing to have you tag along the odd day . The real life hands on experience will be invalueable and would put into practice what you learn on a course. Having someone on the end of the phone is very useful also.
Mike
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Thanks for that Mike :)
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In the meantime, I'll just keep putting the prespray down with the watering can! agitate with the bog brush and finish off with the henry!
sssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! Trade secret that!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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In the meantime, I'll just keep putting the prespray down with the watering can! agitate with the bog brush and finish off with the henry!
sssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! Trade secret that!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
I prefer pressure washer with chem injector alot quicker ;D ;D
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Thanks for the tip Mike! ;)
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no pre-spray on 50% of the carpet, how does that work then. do you only charge for 50% of a full room clean?
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only if you are caught :o :o
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I was simply stating that a carpet cleaning course was needed. This is what has happened in this industry... hello............ wake up people............ doesnt even know how much presray to put down. The question is........... would you let a person clean your carpets when they have had no training? and well by the sounds of it doesnt know what they are doing. I am not knocking the guy ....but please, do the training before you clean peoples carpets. Simply by not knowing what you are doing is taking a massive risk and at the end of the day if you dont know how much prespray to put down.......can you actually identifie the fibres and construction. Whet you gonna do with a woven .....shrink springs to ming. Look mate do the training as you are taking a big risk in losing you business with just a simple job that goes wrong. PROTECT YOURSELF and do the training. Its hard work building a business and well you are taking a big risk. Yeh..... Yeh...... people will slate me for writing this but at the end of the day I am trying to help you and do not want anyone to lose thier business through someone suing them over something that was avoidable simply by learning the basics. My other advice would be to make sure you have insurance including treatment risk.
Maybe you should have put a little more effort into your schooling before entering the 'carpet cleaning' profession, I mean, the spelling and grammar in that post whilst trying to tell someone else to do the right thing!
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hi mum ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I was simply stating that a carpet cleaning course was needed. This is what has happened in this industry... hello............ wake up people............ doesnt even know how much presray to put down. The question is........... would you let a person clean your carpets when they have had no training? and well by the sounds of it doesnt know what they are doing. I am not knocking the guy ....but please, do the training before you clean peoples carpets. Simply by not knowing what you are doing is taking a massive risk and at the end of the day if you dont know how much prespray to put down.......can you actually identifie the fibres and construction. Whet you gonna do with a woven .....shrink springs to ming. Look mate do the training as you are taking a big risk in losing you business with just a simple job that goes wrong. PROTECT YOURSELF and do the training. Its hard work building a business and well you are taking a big risk. Yeh..... Yeh...... people will slate me for writing this but at the end of the day I am trying to help you and do not want anyone to lose thier business through someone suing them over something that was avoidable simply by learning the basics. My other advice would be to make sure you have insurance including treatment risk.
Maybe you should have put a little more effort into your schooling before entering the 'carpet cleaning' profession, I mean, the spelling and grammar in that post whilst trying to tell someone else to do the right thing!
I suppose at least, he CAN spell his "real" name, and he's not afraid to use it... :P ;D
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I was simply stating that a carpet cleaning course was needed. This is what has happened in this industry... hello............ wake up people............ doesnt even know how much presray to put down. The question is........... would you let a person clean your carpets when they have had no training? and well by the sounds of it doesnt know what they are doing. I am not knocking the guy ....but please, do the training before you clean peoples carpets. Simply by not knowing what you are doing is taking a massive risk and at the end of the day if you dont know how much prespray to put down.......can you actually identifie the fibres and construction. Whet you gonna do with a woven .....shrink springs to ming. Look mate do the training as you are taking a big risk in losing you business with just a simple job that goes wrong. PROTECT YOURSELF and do the training. Its hard work building a business and well you are taking a big risk. Yeh..... Yeh...... people will slate me for writing this but at the end of the day I am trying to help you and do not want anyone to lose thier business through someone suing them over something that was avoidable simply by learning the basics. My other advice would be to make sure you have insurance including treatment risk.
Maybe you should have put a little more effort into your schooling before entering the 'carpet cleaning' profession, I mean, the spelling and grammar in that post whilst trying to tell someone else to do the right thing!
I suppose at least, he CAN spell his "real" name, and he's not afraid to use it... :P ;D
Oh excellent! Another superb post protecting a member of the 'select' group.
Now I know why I (and probably a huge amount of others) just pop on here from time to time to see if anything has changed. Sadly not!
Phillip Spencer (spelt correctly!) - PSWCS
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I was simply stating that a carpet cleaning course was needed. This is what has happened in this industry... hello............ wake up people............ doesnt even know how much presray to put down. The question is........... would you let a person clean your carpets when they have had no training? and well by the sounds of it doesnt know what they are doing. I am not knocking the guy ....but please, do the training before you clean peoples carpets. Simply by not knowing what you are doing is taking a massive risk and at the end of the day if you dont know how much prespray to put down.......can you actually identifie the fibres and construction. Whet you gonna do with a woven .....shrink springs to ming. Look mate do the training as you are taking a big risk in losing you business with just a simple job that goes wrong. PROTECT YOURSELF and do the training. Its hard work building a business and well you are taking a big risk. Yeh..... Yeh...... people will slate me for writing this but at the end of the day I am trying to help you and do not want anyone to lose thier business through someone suing them over something that was avoidable simply by learning the basics. My other advice would be to make sure you have insurance including treatment risk.
Maybe you should have put a little more effort into your schooling before entering the 'carpet cleaning' profession, I mean, the spelling and grammar in that post whilst trying to tell someone else to do the right thing!
I suppose at least, he CAN spell his "real" name, and he's not afraid to use it... :P ;D
Oh excellent! Another superb post protecting a member of the 'select' group.
Now I know why I (and probably a huge amount of others) just pop on here from time to time to see if anything has changed. Sadly not!
Phillip Spencer (spelt correctly!) - PSWCS
Well done... Chill out and remember, it's as good to receive banter, as it is to give it.
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'select group ' what no one told me ??? getting a bit fiesty over here left the window cleaning section as they were nasty ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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'select group ' what no one told me ??? getting a bit fiesty over here left the window cleaning section as they were nasty ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm just scared of Tosh... The man's mental.... ;D
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How far off topic can a simple OP go?
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How far off topic can a simple OP go?
As far as YOU want I suppose.... ;D
Here, look at this... I've just bought one for the dog...
http://www.fishingmegastore.com/hyper-dog-4ball-launcher~gfs_HYDO4BALL.html
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How did you find that ??? looks great ;D ;D - what was this post about ;D ;D
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its OK Mike, I got a sensible answer about prespray on one of the fishing forums ;)
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'select group ' what no one told me ??? getting a bit fiesty over here left the window cleaning section as they were nasty ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm just scared of Tosh... The man's mental.... ;D
Half Geordie, half Japanese, how more mental could you get? ;D
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Oh excellent! Another superb post protecting a member of the 'select' group.
Now I know why I (and probably a huge amount of others) just pop on here from time to time to see if anything has changed. Sadly not!
Phillip Spencer (spelt correctly!) - PSWCS
Oh Feisty one you are ;D
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Hi Paul
I usually spray just enough to lightly mist the carpet.I would say about just under a litre as a rough guess seems to work for me .
good Agitation is the key
Neil
No wonder your tub of Blitz has lasted all these years Neil... ;D
Colin You haven,t got some i could borrow have you I,ve ran out lol
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Hi Paul
I usually spray just enough to lightly mist the carpet.I would say about just under a litre as a rough guess seems to work for me .
good Agitation is the key
Neil
No wonder your tub of Blitz has lasted all these years Neil... ;D
Colin You haven,t got some i could borrow have you I,ve ran out lol
Typical Yorkshireman.... ;D!
On a serious note, I have some Extracta contrachem if you want to take that, and some of that fine line stuff too...
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Hi Paul
I usually spray just enough to lightly mist the carpet.I would say about just under a litre as a rough guess seems to work for me .
good Agitation is the key
Neil
No wonder your tub of Blitz has lasted all these years Neil... ;D
Colin You haven,t got some i could borrow have you I,ve ran out lol
Typical Yorkshireman.... ;D!
On a serious note, I have some Extracta contrachem if you want to take that, and some of that fine line stuff too...
That would be great Colin Thanks
This is My take on pre Sprays Use as high a alkaline chem as possible on everything.
dont even bother with acid rinse if its dirty
If its a fairly good wool carpet then i would use micro splitters
all you need as a carpet cleaner is 5l micro splitter and 50kg of blitz ;D