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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Fibre Fresh Devon on August 30, 2011, 12:40:46 pm

Title: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: Fibre Fresh Devon on August 30, 2011, 12:40:46 pm
Is this a B/W ?
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: jasonl on August 30, 2011, 02:26:04 pm
I would say it is 100% polyamide .
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: Mike Halliday on August 30, 2011, 02:39:47 pm
IMO- its a nylon carpet , not a b/w. i say this as there is fading from the sun which polypropelene (sp) is more resistant to than nylon.

also the pattern is not visible from the back which is usually a clear indicator of a B/W

but just do a burn test to comfirm
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: james roffey on August 30, 2011, 02:56:09 pm
I would say not  BW. pattern on reverse is a sure sign, looks synthetic try a float test thats agood way of testing BW
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: Fibre Fresh Devon on August 30, 2011, 03:41:14 pm
Thanks for replies.
Did the tests & thought it wasn't but customer mentioned the words: Belgium & Wilton.
Will proceed as normal.
Regards
Den.
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: expro on August 30, 2011, 08:45:46 pm
The only way to KNOW what a carpet is made of and it's type
is by doing the inspection, and the burn and/ or float test.

It is not possible to determine Fibres from a photograph.

Have you been on a training course Dennis?
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: Jim_77 on August 31, 2011, 12:10:53 am
Definitely not a BW!   Tufted construction, as mentioned probably nylon (going from experience of the "look" of the pile & pattern).

Might be a rippler as well ;)
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: wynne jones on August 31, 2011, 08:50:32 am
For a BW do a float test on the fibre and find an edge that you can lift to see the reverse. If patterned (and many ain't) you will see it on the back and the cotton running through it.

It's the combination of polyprop fibre and construction that causes problems with BW although I reckon lots of people have cleaned them unknowingly and never had a problem.
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: peter maybury on September 02, 2011, 05:32:18 am
Polyamide is a du-pont trade name for nylon. The carpet photographed is a tufted carpet not a wilton.
It is unlikely that the customer describes the carpet as a belgian wilton as the only people that use that term are carpet cleaners. The carpet trade use the term polypropylene wilton as this is specific to that carpet and it is not where it is made that is important but what it is made out of.
Peter
www.carpetcleningnewport.com (http://www.carpetcleningnewport.com)
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: Fibre Fresh Devon on September 02, 2011, 07:28:42 am
The customer had another company in to quote before me, they declined to clean as they said was a Belgian Wilton. 8) Hence my inquiry to the forum. Their loss my gain. :)
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: peter maybury on September 05, 2011, 12:53:56 am
Your competitors have shown their ignorance really. Belgian wilton is a meaningless description anyway as the belgians make polypropylene piled wiltons, wool wiltons, wool mixture wiltons, plain wiltons etc etc. The majority of the ones that you will come into contact with are going to be polypropylene pile wiltons but that is how to describe them.
Peter
www.carpetcleanernewport.com (http://www.carpetcleanernewport.com)
Title: Re: Carpet ID Please.
Post by: nevil on September 06, 2011, 10:57:25 pm
As Jim has said already the problem with this this may be that after cleaning the carpet may seem to expand to the extent that a few ripples appear in the middle of the room. I think he's right. Looks like one of those to me. It's always alarming when it happens but you kind of get used to it. I'm we have all seen it many times now.