Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Pope vader on August 24, 2011, 10:07:12 am
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well my cil brush arrived and first impression, is half of it is missing, (u will see when u get one its the design) very light seems half the size of my extreme wide, think with a few adjustments i could get my fan jets to fit, am off out to try it now, let u know more later
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pictures please ;D ;D
i'm going to get one but im waiting for the new fanjets.
I would go crazy if i had to go back to pencil jets :D
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will put pics up later, just come back to fill up, i found it a bit weird with the 90 socket on as water sprays upwards, put a 45 on it and its fine, think it need to be size of the extreme wide with fans, and it would be the perfect brush,
it is very light
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will put pics up later, just come back to fill up, i found it a bit weird with the 90 socket on as water sprays upwards, put a 45 on it and its fine, think it need to be size of the extreme wide with fans, and it would be the perfect brush,
it is very light
Hi Jed I Night,
The water will only spray upwards if the gooseneck angle is not right. The angle adapter should be adjusted to 45° so that in use the flat back of the 90° socket is parallel to the window pane. This way the jets are pointing in exactly the right direction.
The problem may be that you are using the brush with a G-Fit gooseneck. The G-Fits are designed for older brushes that have an angled socket. If this is the case then an angled socket can easily be fitted to the brush instead of the 90° one.
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that what i had done alex, it wasnt a problem, just didnt look at it properly before i started
it is a great brush, uses more water than i am use to but i have been using fans for a few months other than that it great at cleaning
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heres a few pics one is the the extreme to compare sizes
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some more
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last one
been using it today and like it just wich it was bigger, got a really dirty house to do tomoz so, will get some pics for that to see how it copes with green frames
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How old is that brush ??? It looks knackery already :o
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got it at 10 am today, might just be the way the pics where taken,
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when the sill brush comes with fan jets already fitted ill buy one.does fan jets use less water as im using loads with pencil jets on full flow!!
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when the sill brush comes with fan jets already fitted ill buy one.does fan jets use less water as im using loads with pencil jets on full flow!!
I think that's the problem Daz!
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i was using mine of 40 today and it was fine
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Do you use hot water?
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no cold now
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Hmmmm :o
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Hmmmm :o
less than five hours use. Maybe I'll keep my money in my pocket for now and see how the others turn out.
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i give it a good battering as i do with all my brushes, see how it is at the end of the week,
surely i am not the only one who has bought the cill brush
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are you the same guy who posted a picture of a battered extreme some while back that resembled a squashed spider?
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i give it a good battering as i do with all my brushes, see how it is at the end of the week,
surely i am not the only one who has bought the cill brush
We have sent out about 100 of these in the last 3 days so it will be interesting to see feedback. We have had the trial versions out with testers for a couple of months now so we are confident of their all-round abilities.
I did notice that you give your brushes a good battering as the last photo with your Xtreme wide was quite amazing - that brush started its life with square corners! :)
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no hydro think that was leegls
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i am not complaining about it alex, all my gear except tank and reel is gardiners, i trust what you sell, the only thing i dont like is the hose too soft for me,
the extreme is about 6 months old and gets used at least 3-4 days a week on about 25 houses a day, so they get some use i am happy with it,
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i am not complaining about it alex, all my gear except tank and reel is gardiners, i trust what you sell, the only thing i dont like is the hose too soft for me,
the extreme is about 6 months old and gets used at least 3-4 days a week on about 25 houses a day, so they get some use i am happy with it,
As long as you're happy :)
We have some new more robust pole hose coming soon - drop me an email in a few weeks and I can sort some out for your pole so you can see if you prefer it.
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are you the same guy who posted a picture of a battered extreme some while back that resembled a squashed spider?
That was me me me me me me
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Alex , which is the best one for rinsing on the glass?
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How old is that brush ??? It looks knackery already :o
just what I was thinking.
Do hope I've made the right choice ordered one yesterday ! :-\
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i cant believe the state of that brush after 1 day!! :o :o
best brush i have is the SL DT FLOCKED.gets used every day.still in pretty good shape after 8 months.
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I find the bristles on the soft black extreme to soft to stand up to regular use, it's a good brush, but I only use it for certain jobs. The White extreme has far better wearing bristles. When I eventually get the sill brush I will go for the medium White so that I know the brush will last a reasonable amount of time.
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i cant believe the state of that brush after 1 day!! :o :o
best brush i have is the SL DT FLOCKED.gets used every day.still in pretty good shape after 8 months.
That's what I use. My concern with the cill brush is they are monofilament and have less bristles to contact the glass so, I am guessing the scrubbing results would be inferior with the cill brush.
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Alex , which is the best one for rinsing on the glass?
Sorry for the delay in replying - been away all day.
They are all suitable for rinsing on the glass, due to mono-filament bristles, but the medium is probably the best.
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i cant believe the state of that brush after 1 day!! :o :o
best brush i have is the SL DT FLOCKED.gets used every day.still in pretty good shape after 8 months.
That's what I use. My concern with the cill brush is they are monofilament and have less bristles to contact the glass so, I am guessing the scrubbing results would be inferior with the cill brush.
Interestingly I find that the DT Sill soft (black) scrubs better than the SL DT Flocked and with less effort.
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Thanks Alex, will order one in the near future
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are you the same guy who posted a picture of a battered extreme some while back that resembled a squashed spider?
That would be me I think.
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Sorry, just noticed Lee had one too.
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I got one delivered yesterday, but ive sent it back as i dont think its for me :( - nothing wrong with the brush but i just found the water jets are set to high, even if id have put a 90 degree socket on it the water flow would still be too high 4 what im used to, as i like to tilt the brush slightly sideways for rinsing and with the vikan the jets are in the middle so i can see where the flow is going. Just a idea for alex, maybe a middle jet setting may help certain guys who have been used to the vikan cleaning method as i reckon this would be PERFECT!, i was thinking of getting the drill out because i really wanted to keep this brush (very light), but it would of been v easy to mess up the angle so i didnt chance it. :(
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I got one delivered yesterday, but ive sent it back as i dont think its for me :( - nothing wrong with the brush but i just found the water jets set to high, even if id have put a 90 degree socket on it the water flow would still be too high 4 what im used to, as i like to tilt the brush slightly sideways for rinsing and with the vikan the jets are in the middle so i can see where the flow is going. Just a idea for alex, maybe a middle jet setting may help certain guys who have been used to the vikan cleaning method as i reckon this would be PERFECT!, i was thinking of getting the drill out because i really wanted to keep this brush (very light), but it would of been v easy to mess up the angle so i didnt chance it. :(
Hi Mac
Obviously brush preference is a very individual thing, what suits one doesn't suit another.
The jets have been sited where they are as we felt during development that this placement gave far better rinsing particularly when rinsing on the glass. The jet of water will come out and hit the glass at about 5-6cm below the top of the bristles which is still well within the bristle footprint, but high enough for a good rinse. We have actually had very positive comments about this placement from our testers who have been working with them for the last couple of months - some of these chaps are very fussy in what they like (1 who has previously been a Vikan Sill brush user).
The only time this could cause an issue is if the brush is used at the wrong angle. With a 90° brush socket fitted the angle adapter needs to be set at 45° to get the right angle of brush on to the window pane. If using a carbon gooseneck (which in my opinion works much better with this brush) it is already at the 45° angle. This ensures that the jets are hitting the window perpendicularly.
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when i changed the 90 to a 45 the brush sat better
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I got one delivered yesterday, but ive sent it back as i dont think its for me :( - nothing wrong with the brush but i just found the water jets set to high, even if id have put a 90 degree socket on it the water flow would still be too high 4 what im used to, as i like to tilt the brush slightly sideways for rinsing and with the vikan the jets are in the middle so i can see where the flow is going. Just a idea for alex, maybe a middle jet setting may help certain guys who have been used to the vikan cleaning method as i reckon this would be PERFECT!, i was thinking of getting the drill out because i really wanted to keep this brush (very light), but it would of been v easy to mess up the angle so i didnt chance it. :(
Hi Mac
Obviously brush preference is a very individual thing, what suits one doesn't suit another.
The jets have been sited where they are as we felt during development that this placement gave far better rinsing particularly when rinsing on the glass. The jet of water will come out and hit the glass at about 5-6cm below the top of the bristles which is still well within the bristle footprint, but high enough for a good rinse. We have actually had very positive comments about this placement from our testers who have been working with them for the last couple of months - some of these chaps are very fussy in what they like (1 who has previously been a Vikan Sill brush user).
The only time this could cause an issue is if the brush is used at the wrong angle. With a 90° brush socket fitted the angle adapter needs to be set at 45° to get the right angle of brush on to the window pane. If using a carbon gooseneck (which in my opinion works much better with this brush) it is already at the 45° angle. This ensures that the jets are hitting the window perpendicularly.
nice ;D
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when i changed the 90 to a 45 the brush sat better
If you were using it with a G-Fit then the 45° socket would be the one to use. Of course you can use it with a 45° socket and an adjustable angle adapter - you would need to have it set at a different angle though.
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i use the metal gooseneck