Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Chris Brooke on August 23, 2011, 08:30:10 pm
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What do you lot think is best to clean UPVC frame work and sills?
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With your pad or brush :S
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I use a 750 ml spray bottle that goes in an insulated holster - the nalgene 1L bottle insulater attaches to a belt.
I add hot water from metal thermos flasks to this using a funnel and add some upvc cleaner like stardrops concentrated and a washing up brush. Microfibre in each hand to wipe.
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spray them with this (http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu184/s2none/clover-viro-sol-citrus-based-cleaner-degreaser-169-p.jpg)
http://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/clover-viro-sol-citrus-based-cleanerdegreaser-169-p.asp leave for about 3 min and just brush off they come up a treat. i have done some today and this stuff is fab going to order my self another 5x5lts soon.
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TFR £26 for 25 litres dilute at 4% TFR, pump spray on, leave for 2-3 mins then WFP easy!
25 Litres will last at least two years and the profit from the outlaw is amazing!
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TFR £26 for 25 litres dilute at 4% TFR, pump spray on, leave for 2-3 mins then WFP easy!
25 Litres will last at least two years and the profit from the outlaw is amazing!
i have used t.f.r before and its not a patch on the viro-sol because tfr will not restore upvc where the virosol will.
ps if you do not be leave me order some and see for yourself
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tfr is great for cleaning but leaves a matt finish.
so not so good for restoring upvc
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what do you dilute viro sol at???
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what do you dilute viro sol at???
they reckon 250m into a 5lt container and fill the rest with water. i started to use it 500m to 4.5lt of water and find that works a treat i know it works out more money than the tfr but once you have tried it you will not go back i know i won't. it dose state on the label it gets rid of blood as well.
ps if you click on the link it will tell you more
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spray them with this (http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu184/s2none/clover-viro-sol-citrus-based-cleaner-degreaser-169-p.jpg)
http://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/clover-viro-sol-citrus-based-cleanerdegreaser-169-p.asp leave for about 3 min and just brush off they come up a treat. i have done some today and this stuff is fab going to order my self another 5x5lts soon.
Hi Dave,
I got TFR - waste of money.
I got Ubik 2000 - waste of money.
Both products were highly recommended by people on here. The problem with Ubik 2000 is that it doesn't clean stains on plastic at all; yes it removes green moss and any grease but that is it. I always revert to cleaning the plastic with Cif on my brush and scrubbing like mad. I hate conservatory cleans as they take me too long. I made the mistake of leaving the TFR too long the first time I used it and spent 8 hours cleaning the conservatory roof and sides by hand getting the TFR stains off. (Infact on the neighbours side of this conservatory there are still TFR stains visible 5 years on which I didn't get off completely)
I see that Viro-sol is made by the same company Clover as Ubik 2000 and both claim the same results, but my experience is that Ubik 2000 doesn't do what it says it does on the tin.
Does Viro-sol bring up the white on UPVC conservatory roofs with minimal effort?
We used TFR in the valleting bay at the garage in a steam cleaner which worked well for getting the wax protector coat off a new vehicle paint work before delivery to the customer.
On Peter's forum there was a cleaner who uses thin bleach. His customers are delighted with the results and he uses minimum effort. I'm scared of bleach and haven't tried it as it can kill plants and fish if it's residue gets into a fish pond. Another thing with bleach is that it doesn't clean off the stains, but hides them by making them invisible, and I don't know what to think of that. It also takes the colour of of the Bib and Brace overalls I use.
Spruce
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spray them with this (http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu184/s2none/clover-viro-sol-citrus-based-cleaner-degreaser-169-p.jpg)
http://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/clover-viro-sol-citrus-based-cleanerdegreaser-169-p.asp leave for about 3 min and just brush off they come up a treat. i have done some today and this stuff is fab going to order my self another 5x5lts soon.
Hi Dave,
I got TFR - waste of money.
I got Ubik 2000 - waste of money.
Both products were highly recommended by people on here. The problem with Ubik 2000 is that it doesn't clean stains on plastic at all; yes it removes green moss and any grease but that is it. I always revert to cleaning the plastic with Cif on my brush and scrubbing like mad. I hate conservatory cleans as they take me too long. I made the mistake of leaving the TFR too long the first time I used it and spent 8 hours cleaning the conservatory roof and sides by hand getting the TFR stains off. (Infact on the neighbours side of this conservatory there are still TFR stains visible 5 years on which I didn't get off completely)
I see that Viro-sol is made by the same company Clover as Ubik 2000 and both claim the same results, but my experience is that Ubik 2000 doesn't do what it says it does on the tin.
Does Viro-sol bring up the white on UPVC conservatory roofs with minimal effort?
We used TFR in the valleting bay at the garage in a steam cleaner which worked well for getting the wax protector coat off a new vehicle paint work before delivery to the customer.
On Peter's forum there was a cleaner who uses thin bleach. His customers are delighted with the results and he uses minimum effort. I'm scared of bleach and haven't tried it as it can kill plants and fish if it's residue gets into a fish pond. Another thing with bleach is that it doesn't clean off the stains, but hides them by making them invisible, and I don't know what to think of that. It also takes the colour of of the Bib and Brace overalls I use.
Spruce
yes mate i use it all the time on con roofs witch i love cleaning if you mix it right then yes it will restore upvc i tried it today in the sun left it on for no more than 3 min and just go over with water fed pole come up a treat. its also good on the doors because you know after time the upvc go's dull and when sprayed on and then washed down by god it looks new again. i had a customer come out after i finished today and i showed her the frame and sills that did have all blood marks over them she could not be leave it and asked what i used witch i replyed sorry love i could tell you but then i would have to kill you lol ;D ;D
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Spruce if you want i will take a photo of one tomorrow with blood marks on then one when i have cleaned it then you can see for yourself. i will be logging of now so i will take the photo and post it tomorrow night.
dave
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astonish! is a good product it will fill in small scratches and
leaves a nice finish
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astonish! is a good product it will fill in small scratches and
leaves a nice finish
I've still got a dried out pot of Astonish in the van. It cleans UPVC nicely, but again you need to use a lot of muscle.
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Spruce if you want i will take a photo of one tomorrow with blood marks on then one when i have cleaned it then you can see for yourself. i will be logging of now so i will take the photo and post it tomorrow night.
dave
Hi Dave
I appreciate that - thanks.
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Hi Dave
Based on your experience using this product and your enthusiasm regarding its performance, and with another conservatory clean due shortly, I have just ordered a 5 litre container to try. Thanks for your recommendation which I value and I look forward to giving this a go.
Thanks again
Spruce
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Have a look at all the `posh`web sites that firms/companies who
Say they specialize in just UPVC cleaning.There`s plenty of em`.
What do they use ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :-\ :-\
From what I can make out it`s just industrial strenth solvent cleaner
Along with `elbow grease`.
Anyone know what they do use at all?
Lewis Doubtfire
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i use CIF on a wet rag . good results / downside it needs a lot of elbow grease
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cif cleaner on a wet rag if you want to be removing stubborn stains on their pvc.i just use wfp and damp microfibre for all maintenance cleans.
anyone else notices certain types of leaves stain the pvc?i clean them the best i can with wfp/cloth but most of the time it doesnt come off.
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Anything to make a better finish and the job easier.. I see a few lads are using viro sol for deep cleans with wfp im gonna give it a whirl why not :) and thanks for the info...
cif is gonna clean well to hand but i need it for connie roofs really..
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cif cleaner on a wet rag if you want to be removing stubborn stains on their pvc.i just use wfp and damp microfibre for all maintenance cleans.
anyone else notices certain types of leaves stain the pvc?i clean them the best i can with wfp/cloth but most of the time it doesnt come off.
Hi Dazmond,
I had thought of investing in a conservatory ladder as I have worked out that it would be quicker to do it manually than the way I do it at the moment.
However, I have always tried to stay away from offering this service so at the moment I couldn't justify the cost.
I also have found that certain plants stain the window sills, roses being one of them. Spider poo also seems to do this and will get worse over then next couple of months. But I find that as the winter progresses the stains seem to disappear - perhaps the ultraviolet light has something to do with it.
Spruce
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hi spruce i wouldnt bother with conny ladders unless you want to make your job harder!!i find wfp and tfr sufficient for most pvc.its usually old conservatories that are stained grey.i say to these customers"im a cleaner not a miracle worker!!" ;) ;D ;D ;D
as for the leaf stains i clean them the best i can but dont spend too much time on the them as id never get much work done!!
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Spruce if you want i will take a photo of one tomorrow with blood marks on then one when i have cleaned it then you can see for yourself. i will be logging of now so i will take the photo and post it tomorrow night.
dave
Hi Dave
I appreciate that - thanks.
spruce i have not been out today so will take photo as promised when i can. you said you have ordered some good on ya if you mix it 500mm to 4/12 lt of water spray on to window cill leave for about 2/3 min then just scrub with water fed pole and see what you think. dave
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Thanks Dave
We haven't been out today either due to the North East weather, although it's brightened up to become a lovely afternoon and evening.
Spruce.
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astonish! is a good product it will fill in small scratches and
leaves a nice finish
I've still got a dried out pot of Astonish in the van. It cleans UPVC nicely, but again you need to use a lot of muscle.
lucky ive got plenty then isnt it! :)
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Thanks Dave
We haven't been out today either due to the North East weather, although it's brightened up to become a lovely afternoon and evening.
Spruce.
hi spruce i have not for got them photos i promised to take for you with the cleaning results using the viro sol i have a house to do on Saturday witch is really bad so will take them then and post on here cheers dave