Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: craig rob allin on August 14, 2011, 02:50:50 pm
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being an mop,blade and ladder user myself i think it is the most efficent and trustworthy method , its been around for generations for years and you can gurantee a superb clean and i think most of the british public prefer it , i dont rate pole systems myself as i cant see how it can give a better final finish as it does hands on , but thats just my opinion ! what do you think ? ? ?
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It's 2011
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While i still encounter doubts about wfp before cleaning the results speak for themselves and my customers
would not return to trad cleaning.
WFP is superior to tradding as you can deep clean the frames and glass ( no dirty top edges ) and you dont leave
smears or soap residue behind.
However !
either way to clean windows comes down the the person doing the job - both trad and WFP and be done to an amazing good or bad standard !
but wfp is not as straightforward as trad - there are more variable factors to it and a big learning curve - once you have been wfp for a year or so - you should pretty well be able to sort any problem cleans and provide a better quality service.
Darran
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To be fair they both have their positives and negatives depending on the job
Im mainly wfp - but i do trad
Once you know what your doing with wfp then its easy to do... same as using trad methods.
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We use both. I would say on balance that most prefer trad still but more and more are accepting wfp. However, for those who are really anti we just insist on doing any dangerous/difficult access windows wfp and do the rest trad. Price is adjusted accordingly if it takes us longer.
Not sure if others have experienced this but older people definitely more resistant. My mom hates wfp and will not have it used on her house because the windows aren't dried off ;D
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i have never used one of these wfp systems myself just what customers have told me as most of them are 0ap , if i changed to wfp id have no round to go back to " fact! " and if i did start using one it wouldnt take long before i woz a fat idiot lol " fact " !
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i have never used one of these wfp systems myself just what customers have told me as most of them are 0ap , if i changed to wfp id have no round to go back to " fact! " and if i did start using one it wouldnt take long before i woz a fat idiot lol " fact " !
The extra money youll make wfp you could get a gym membership, sorry cant help with the ideot bit ;D
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i have never used one of these wfp systems myself just what customers have told me as most of them are 0ap , if i changed to wfp id have no round to go back to " fact! " and if i did start using one it wouldnt take long before i woz a fat idiot lol " fact " !
Then you need to sprinkle anti-troll powder on the windows before cleaning them. They come up just great when you stop those trolls interfering with them ;D .
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i have never used one of these wfp systems myself just what customers have told me as most of them are 0ap , if i changed to wfp id have no round to go back to " fact! " and if i did start using one it wouldnt take long before i woz a fat idiot lol " fact " !
The extra money youll make wfp you could get a gym membership, sorry cant help with the ideot bit ;D
cheers if i turned wfp i would need somthing to pass the time on lol
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Please remain in 1965 it seems to be where you belong.
WFP obviously doesn't work, which is why I have no business left. Please stay on ladders and learn your lesson from me.
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Just remember you won't please everyone all the time. Only some of the people some of the time
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Looking at your website (http://www.allinswindowcleaningservice.co.uk/home) I can only presume this is a windup.
If not, you need to look at your spelling and logo, ie 3 points of contact on a ladder at all times and how you present yourself.
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my bro sorted the website , ??? i will take a look .
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my bro sorted the website , ??? i will take a look .
Is your bro WFP perchance? ;D
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my bro sorted the website , ??? i will take a look .
I would sack your bro' with immediate effect!!!
That's given me a proper laugh mate!! "wivout" ;D ;D
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This isn't going to impress your customers: "The advantagers of using our service is you can cancel at any time wivout notice !"
Vin
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"no extra charge for late payers" ;D
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just to balance things up - i have an OAP (101 - so probably not a long term customer ::) ) who loves the WFP
Darran
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being an mop,blade and ladder user myself i think it is the most efficent and trustworthy method , its been around for generations for years and you can gurantee a superb clean and i think most of the british public prefer it , i dont rate pole systems myself as i cant see how it can give a better final finish as it does hands on , but thats just my opinion ! what do you think ? ? ?
They are both equally good as one another but wfp has a sharp edge over traditional there is no climbing ladders and there isnt soap residue left so doesn't attract the dirt and wfp has longer lasting result than traditional.
But it is up to everyones preference in what method they want to addapt, at the end of the day some domestic will addapt when you show them the result as for a customer of mine I show them and told them how wfp works so we did a little test as i clean one window traditional one the same side facing as I clean with the wfp and when they where due and I started to clean trad way he told me he wanted the wfp way from now on and all round and this gentleman is 59 years old, so it goes to show they can be different ways and people will warm to it. And he isnt the only one another one of my customers who is 83 years old prefers the wfp.
So its up to the individual to decide. ;D ;D ;D
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started wfp year ago, thought i would lose half my work but now they are all converted to wfp, lost 1 out of 420 custys and it does a better job than trad in the right hands honest, and a lot faster, buy one you wont regret it
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just to balance things up - i have an OAP (101 - so probably not a long term customer ::) ) who loves the WFP
Darran
I too have a 101 yr old custy, who got me to clean her windows ( bungalow ) wfp, as her old trad cleaner didmt clean her frames and doors properly.
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My dad was sceptical about wfp until yest afternoon after if finished and he was in the kitchen the side window was so clean he thought it was open wide lol I think both methods have pros and cons, having done both methods, I personally pref wfp as I find its time effective, I see a trad guy the other day he turned his nose up, I laughed and thought least I don't have to carry a ladder about lol.
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I think it was Henry Ford who said "If I'd asked people what they wanted they would have said 'faster horses'"
WFP does do a better job if the operator knows what they are doing. Stays clean longer, gets faster to do every time you do it, and the frames get done.
Trad is the best for builders cleans
With trad if you do a bad job you can see straightaway, whereas WFP the poor quality of your work will show up when it dries and all those lovely spots appear