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Title: value a window round
Post by: craig rob allin on August 14, 2011, 02:00:32 pm
out of intrest how do you value a window cleaning round ? i heard it was 4 times the  value of work you do a month but aint to sure , not selling just want a piece of mind
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: gto on August 14, 2011, 04:46:16 pm
any where from 3 to 10 i have seen them for, depends how greedy you are.
and if the work is any good in the right area it will sell.
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Pope vader on August 14, 2011, 04:47:17 pm
why has he left already
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on August 14, 2011, 04:53:45 pm
why has he left already

Someone took  a "piece" of his mind?
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: LADDER MONKEY on August 14, 2011, 04:59:27 pm
he sold at x20  ;) now living in beverly hills  ;D
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 14, 2011, 05:17:25 pm
any where from 3 to 10 i have seen them for, depends how greedy you are.
and if the work is any good in the right area it will sell.

"Greedy"?  Where does that come into it?  Get the best price you can; if someone will pay ten times, then it's a fair price.

Vin
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Rick Ward on August 14, 2011, 05:18:39 pm
anything more than 5x and your taking the p@ss
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 14, 2011, 06:16:59 pm
anything more than 5x and your taking the p@ss

If someone will pay it, it's fine.

I assume that in your rather odd world view, the seller underpricing it is in some way OK, whereas getting a higher price isn't.

Remember, whoever buys it doesn't have to if they don't want to. If the price is too high, no-one will buy it.  Other than that, all bets are off.

Vin
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Lee13 on August 15, 2011, 08:05:02 pm
It's only worth what someone is willing to pay
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Nameless Drudge on August 15, 2011, 08:47:04 pm
What do you say then to the guy who comes on here having just paid 10x for underpriced newly canvassed work thats not compact.
  Someones had his pants down thats what. But he had the money and he could afford it,would you have advised him not to buy then perfect windows or would your conscience be overidden by your admiration for the seller?
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 15, 2011, 08:54:54 pm
What do you say then to the guy who comes on here having just paid 10x for underpriced newly canvassed work thats not compact.
  Someones had his pants down thats what. But he had the money and he could afford it,would you have advised him not to buy then perfect windows or would your conscience be overidden by your admiration for the seller?

I say nothing at all to him.  I would have no admiration for either of them, except for both of them having done a deal with which they must both be happy, or they wouldn't have done the deal at all.  Both of them have a free choice.  Seller no more has to sell at a given price than a buyer has to buy at a given price.

Vin
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: mci services on August 15, 2011, 08:57:56 pm
have to agree with with vin on this one, get what you can, and pay as little as you can ;) simple business really
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 15, 2011, 09:20:14 pm
have to agree with with vin on this one, get what you can, and pay as little as you can ;) simple business really

And looking at it from the other side, sell what you can and sell it for as much as you can.

If the two prices overlap, do the deal.

Vin
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: mci services on August 15, 2011, 09:21:48 pm
have to agree with with vin on this one, get what you can, and pay as little as you can ;) simple business really

And looking at it from the other side, sell what you can and sell it for as much as you can.

If the two prices overlap, do the deal.

Vin

yes that is what I meant ;D
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Nameless Drudge on August 15, 2011, 09:56:11 pm
I dont agree with either of you,your both  talking through your wallets and you`d be the first to winge if something you wanted became suddenly unaffordable due  to gullible buyers pushing the price up.
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: mci services on August 15, 2011, 10:06:03 pm
I dont agree with either of you,your both  talking through your wallets and you`d be the first to winge if something you wanted became suddenly unaffordable due  to gullible buyers pushing the price up.

sean when I bought my house before it all went wrong I paid top dollar for it, I could but it now for less,

last time I bought work I paid x1 for it as it was under priced rubbish, I have never sold work but if I did I would take as much as I could get, I often give it away never mind sell it, but something is worth what someone is prepared to pay there is no rules or guide lines or going rates, fair play to someone that can get that much but I wouldn't pay it. but if someone is prepared to pay so be it.
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 15, 2011, 10:18:13 pm
I dont agree with either of you,your both  talking through your wallets and you`d be the first to winge if something you wanted became suddenly unaffordable due  to gullible buyers pushing the price up.

You're obsessed with only seeing this from the side of the buyer.

If the two individuals swapped places and the one of them bought the other's round for half the monthly turnover, would you feel sorry for the seller?  Or would you predict that I'd "be the first to whinge if something I wanted to sell became suddenly too cheap due to hard-nosed buyers pushing the price down"?

Vin
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Nameless Drudge on August 15, 2011, 10:43:38 pm
And the rabbi said to the youth "look out that window and what do you see". The youth says"lots of people",and now says the rabbi,"look in that mirror and what do you see","i see only myself",says the youth.
"The glass is the same but see how the addition of some  silver has changed what you see",says the rabbi.
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: mikecam on August 15, 2011, 11:11:37 pm
 i think its best to work out where the round is, and who is doing it. Then go and canvass it, say the window cleaner is thinking of packing up !!! No extra to pay !!!  ;D
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 16, 2011, 04:06:58 am
And the rabbi said to the youth "look out that window and what do you see". The youth says"lots of people",and now says the rabbi,"look in that mirror and what do you see","i see only myself",says the youth.
"The glass is the same but see how the addition of some  silver has changed what you see",says the rabbi.

Good, that's cleared it up. Nothing like a pointless parable to clarify the economics of dealmaking.

Vin
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Nameless Drudge on August 16, 2011, 06:47:09 pm
And then the rabbi said to the youth"And most importantly don`t forget your glasses when your gluing on them clamps for Alex  or you`ll have Perfect Windows going off on one again" .
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Nameless Drudge on August 16, 2011, 07:02:58 pm
Being totally serious it would always be wise to factor in greed into  "the economics of dealmaking" as you describe it.
 Greed is everywhere,so common its now described as simply "business". It aint no virtue though.
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: mlscontractcleaner on August 16, 2011, 07:08:54 pm
I dont agree with either of you,your both  talking through your wallets and you`d be the first to winge if something you wanted became suddenly unaffordable due  to gullible buyers pushing the price up.


Blimey mate, why are you in business????

If someone wanted to buy my business and valued it higher than the norm I certainly wouldn't correct them. If I can get x10 for it then great, the more the better.

To be honest I'd rather get x20 ;D
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Nameless Drudge on August 16, 2011, 07:15:59 pm
Come on,think a bit harder,have you never heard someone say"he was doing really well but he got too greedy for his own good".
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: Londoner on August 16, 2011, 08:36:57 pm
Depend whether its a real round or just a list of names and addresses from some time back.

Some years ago I picked up a half a dozen houses in one road where the old cleaner had gone missing. Nothing too unusual about that. Many months later a new guy turned up knocking on doors introducing himself as the new cleaner.

Turns out he had bought the round from the old cleaners son. I gave up the houses to him because I felt sorry for him  but it was a P- take and he had really been conned. It was me who was the loser really but what would have happened if I had stood my ground?

Maybe I was too soft but he was a real mug for parting with the money, and I told him so.
Title: Re: value a window round
Post by: bobplum on August 16, 2011, 09:16:50 pm
out of intrest how do you value a window cleaning round ? i heard it was 4 times the  value of work you do a month but aint to sure , not selling just want a piece of mind

its what you want for it
and its what people are prepared to pay
so probably you will meet in the middle

or......hope for the best,expect worst and settle for anything in between