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Title: electric hose reel
Post by: premier window cleaners on August 11, 2011, 05:14:36 pm
anyone had experience of these?

www.redashe.co.uk/Hose/Coxreels/Manual_Power/Competitor_1125.html

phoned them up and guy recommended this with electric motor
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Ross G on August 11, 2011, 05:42:01 pm

Just another thing to go wrong , I'll stick to windin' the b ugger in manually it partly makes up for the exercise i don't get from climbing up and down the rungs
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 11, 2011, 06:07:01 pm
£627?

Crikey.

Vin
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Nathanael Jones on August 11, 2011, 07:01:26 pm
Whats the point of a reel that will rewind itself if you still have to stand there & guide the hose on????

Any electric reel NEEDS a self layering mechanism!!

I'm building myself one at the moment, doing it properly with custom machined parts & stainless steel bearings etc etc, as well as the 12v motor rewind and self layering mechanism.. if it works out as i hope I may be persuaded to build a few more. It'll be a good bit cheaper than £627 as well!  :o
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: premier window cleaners on August 11, 2011, 07:43:13 pm
the actual price is £1023.00 with the motor but i would get 25% off!!

they import them from USA but cant get one with self layering mechanisium.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: awcs on August 11, 2011, 07:46:07 pm
wind it up you lazy sod!!
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Nathanael Jones on August 11, 2011, 09:55:39 pm
the actual price is £1023.00 with the motor but i would get 25% off!!

they import them from USA but cant get one with self layering mechanisium.

I've searched EVERYWHERE, and the cheapest 12v rewind hose reel with a self layering mechanism I could find was £2750+ VAT!!  :o :o :o

Its really not very complex to do,.. I can't see how they justify those prices!
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on August 11, 2011, 09:59:24 pm
oh god this old chestnut!!!
wheres clive???
if still posting he will be on here soon
he made one with a cordless drill and a bit of wood
he always said it worked well.....mind you he was a strange old fruit!!!
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Nathanael Jones on August 11, 2011, 10:27:00 pm
oh god this old chestnut!!!
wheres clive???
if still posting he will be on here soon
he made one with a cordless drill and a bit of wood
he always said it worked well.....mind you he was a strange old fruit!!!

He has a vid on youtube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGbxRpkrWqg
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on August 12, 2011, 12:41:30 pm
he has refined it a bit,thats actually pretty clever and i used to take the pee about what a waste of time it was :o
he also comes across as much  less of a nob on camera ,shows how typed messages give distorted view of what people are like in person
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 12, 2011, 05:19:17 pm
oh god this old chestnut!!!
wheres clive???
if still posting he will be on here soon
he made one with a cordless drill and a bit of wood
he always said it worked well.....mind you he was a strange old fruit!!!

He has a vid on youtube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGbxRpkrWqg
Does anybody know what fitting he is using on the drill and hose reel at 2.17 in the vid? I've asked him but he has never told.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 12, 2011, 05:35:53 pm
He had the fitting made, he did start a topic a while ago asking if anyone would be interested in them if he got them made, but he didn't get any replies after 5mins and he got the huff and locked the topic.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 12, 2011, 05:49:26 pm
Cheers Lee.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on August 12, 2011, 07:09:36 pm
He had the fitting made, he did start a topic a while ago asking if anyone would be interested in them if he got them made, but he didn't get any replies after 5mins and he got the huff and locked the topic.
hah! yup that sounds like clive ;D ;D
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 13, 2011, 09:38:35 am
He had the fitting made, he did start a topic a while ago asking if anyone would be interested in them if he got them made, but he didn't get any replies after 5mins and he got the huff and locked the topic.

He was asked a dozen times about the slipping clutch and how it was made and, in typical Slumpbuster not-going-to-share-any-information-apart-from-telling-you-how-wonderful-I-am manner, he always ignored them.

Vin
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: david thomas on August 13, 2011, 09:54:18 am
you need a good battery to run the motor
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Nathanael Jones on August 13, 2011, 10:37:33 am
you need a good battery to run the motor

Slumpy mentioned charging the drill batteries every evening. I reckon if you had a 12v motor & connected it to the WFP battery you'd hardly notice the extra drain.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 13, 2011, 02:53:28 pm
I run an 18v cordless drill from my pump battery to wind in my hose reels. With a decent battery, running 2 pumps and a drill to wind in 2 reels it will last all day. Some days I have to start the engine near the end of the day to top the battery up as it isn't holding its charge as much now.

If you could find a motor attach to a reel that had a clutch, there is no reason why your battery could run it.

I'm thinking of running my pumps from the van battery, and using the battery in the back just for the drill.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 13, 2011, 09:05:37 pm
I run an 18v cordless drill from my pump battery to wind in my hose reels. With a decent battery, running 2 pumps and a drill to wind in 2 reels it will last all day. Some days I have to start the engine near the end of the day to top the battery up as it isn't holding its charge as much now.

If you could find a motor attach to a reel that had a clutch, there is no reason why your battery could run it.

I'm thinking of running my pumps from the van battery, and using the battery in the back just for the drill.
Do you just use a 22mm socket and a plastic spindle or do you have a more complicated setup Lee?
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 13, 2011, 09:39:26 pm
I do just use a socket, but I use one that fits on the nut that holds the handle in place because the plastic spindle will wear in no time.

You also need a decent drill that is 2 speed, and a variable speed trigger.

Cheap drills the motor smokes after a while, and if you dont have a variable speed trigger, it will snatch too much and rip your wrist off.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 13, 2011, 09:50:25 pm
I did that with my last spindle but the torque ripped the bolt out of the spindle one day. I think my drill or my technique was wrong.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 13, 2011, 09:55:57 pm
Probable your drill, I've been using it for 10 months. You need a drill with 2 speeds, the slower speed with a trigger that can vary the speed will work well.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 14, 2011, 02:12:38 pm
What model drill do you use?
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 14, 2011, 04:32:07 pm
THIS (http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-ere185com-18v-1-7ah-ni-cd-cordless-combi-drill/88921) one
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Richard Neal on August 14, 2011, 04:44:58 pm
Good old screwfix, i had 2 of them for about 3 years used everyday as a coachbuilder, one died about 6 months ago but the other one is  still going strong, excellent drills.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 14, 2011, 06:26:17 pm
THIS (http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-ere185com-18v-1-7ah-ni-cd-cordless-combi-drill/88921) one
Cheers.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: premier window cleaners on August 14, 2011, 06:57:24 pm
what adapters do you use on the drill?
How do you fix adapter to hose reel?

thanks
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 14, 2011, 07:15:57 pm
Yu need a hose reel that has a nut on it that holds the handle on, then just buy a drill driver adapeter and the right size socket and use the drill to wind it up.

The setup that I have lends itself to using the drill because my reels are fixed in the back of the van, and the hoses go through the side of the van via ports, so the reels are at a nice height and the reels are facing in a good direction to be able to use the drill on then.

If you have your hose coming out of the back door, or have them on the ground then using a drill will be quite awkward.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 14, 2011, 07:47:43 pm
Lee, stupid question but how do you know when you are reeling in that you are nearly there and its time to stop? What I mean is that if your head is in the back of the van using the driver how can you see what is going on with the hose?

Do you have a photo of how its setup so I can get an idea how you do it. Do you just reel or do you feed the hose through a towel too. Sorry for the questions, I am just trying to get my hear round the practicalities.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 14, 2011, 07:59:36 pm
There are 2 of us, so 1 watches and says, but you do get to know how much hose is out, and it becomes instinct to know when to slow down to let the last bit come trough slowly.

I do use a rag to guide it on the reel.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w202/sierragls/551eda2c.jpg)
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: G & M on August 14, 2011, 08:08:50 pm
you could put markers using different colour tape or paint on the last few meters to let you know when to slow down.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: Lee GLS on August 14, 2011, 08:15:44 pm
Tried that they just come unstuck, I keep meaning to buy some heat shrink, that should work.
Title: Re: electric hose reel
Post by: davids3511 on August 14, 2011, 09:43:00 pm
Do you have a fairleed on the outside of the van to roller the hose in? Looks a nice easy solution, cheers for the pic.