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Title: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Steve CM on July 25, 2011, 12:00:17 pm
I have always painted my vans floor and to be honest if it was a big van and system i would all the time. But i am in the process of fitting a combo with a 400 layflat, one reel, one pump.

the only place it can leak is at the hose reel so i'm wondering wether its worth painting the floor?

Do you paint your floors or not? If not have you found it a massive issue and leading to rotten floors etc?

Thanks
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 25, 2011, 12:08:45 pm
Had my system my van for over a year with no protektacote i have had no issues at all
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Tom White on July 25, 2011, 12:13:42 pm
Yeh, I paint mine.  My floor is always wet.  I overfill, I forget to put the lid on the tank and drive off, I sling my poles in the back and they leak water, etc.

I would like to think I'll have the van for another five years, so I think the £70 it costs is worth it.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 25, 2011, 12:15:02 pm
Had my system in my van for over a year with no protektacote i have had no issues at all
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Steve CM on July 25, 2011, 12:19:26 pm
Yeh, I paint mine.  My floor is always wet.  I overfill, I forget to put the lid on the tank and drive off, I sling my poles in the back and they leak water, etc.

I would like to think I'll have the van for another five years, so I think the £70 it costs is worth it.

yeah its always been my thoughts too. Just wanted some other views. It would save a lot of time and aggro not painting it though.

Also how many litres would a combo van floor take to do if i did paint it? Anyone know??
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Tom White on July 25, 2011, 12:29:32 pm
It's no agro; get two tins of primer spray paint and spray that to the van floor; then two coats of protecktacote.  You can do it easily in one afternoon.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Steve CM on July 25, 2011, 12:42:31 pm
I have painted 5 van floors tosh i know what aggro it is  ;D

Blue hands, High as a kite and aching knees  ;D
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Tom White on July 25, 2011, 01:02:49 pm
I have painted 5 van floors tosh i know what aggro it is  ;D

Blue hands, High as a kite and aching knees  ;D

You have been doing it the 'ard way then, 'cos that was not my experience. ;D
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Sean Dyer on July 25, 2011, 01:44:50 pm
I didnt do mine, but am starting to think i shoud as i get alot of water like tosh says, and some damp on the ply now, just dont wanna take everything out etc... Also awkward leaving it open at mine as at a terraced house..

Is it worth it, can you ddamage anything not doing it?
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on July 25, 2011, 01:53:07 pm
I made a slopping floor and then I stuck roofing rubber sheet down and just folded the corners upwards, so that any spillage pours out of the back tailgate.(I get a lot if I forget to switch the hose fill off)
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: mathewl on July 25, 2011, 01:54:21 pm
 8)
Usually we don't paint the floors. Sometimes If situation is like yours, we recommend painting the floors.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Steve CM on July 25, 2011, 03:13:13 pm
I have painted 5 van floors tosh i know what aggro it is  ;D

Blue hands, High as a kite and aching knees  ;D

You have been doing it the 'ard way then, 'cos that was not my experience. ;D

clean the floor, prep it, paint it. Pretty straight forward but aggro  :P
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Steve CM on July 25, 2011, 03:16:11 pm
8)
Usually we don't paint the floors. Sometimes If situation is like yours, we recommend painting the floors.

whats unique about my situation?
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Steve CM on July 25, 2011, 03:16:54 pm
I didnt do mine, but am starting to think i shoud as i get alot of water like tosh says, and some damp on the ply now, just dont wanna take everything out etc... Also awkward leaving it open at mine as at a terraced house..

Is it worth it, can you ddamage anything not doing it?


i wouldn't have ply on the floor
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on July 25, 2011, 03:38:08 pm
i used 2 ltrs on my combo, in 2 coats! to prime the van floor i went over it with medium sand paper to give the painted surface a "key"

ive thought an alternative could be a tarpoline or even towels   :)
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Tom White on July 25, 2011, 04:17:11 pm
i used 2 ltrs on my combo, in 2 coats! to prime the van floor i went over it with medium sand paper to give the painted surface a "key"

ive thought an alternative could be a tarpoline or even towels   :)

Mikecam gave me a tip which was brilliant; don't bother with the sandpaper - just get two cans of primer paint and spray the van floor with it.  It gives a better key for the protectakote to stick to than the sandpaper, it's quicker and far far easier too.

It's quick, easy, no rubbing and sweating (phnaaar phnaaaar).
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: LWC on July 25, 2011, 04:48:36 pm
I just put a rubber mat down in mine under the tank, if it leaks it either comes out the back doors or, dont know what yours is like steve but as mine is a crew cab i have foot wells so the water goes into them and ive popped the drain plugs there and painted that part of the floor in some black paint i had lying about.

Theres never any water sat for any long periods of time in there...so is it worth it? In my opionion...no
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Steve CM on July 25, 2011, 04:54:05 pm
Footwells? Water I wouldn't be letting that happen! Mines just a flat floor. Might give it a go for a week or so and see if water collects up. If without any leaks there is then I'll paint it :)
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: p1w1 on July 25, 2011, 04:59:33 pm
i used 2 ltrs on my combo, in 2 coats! to prime the van floor i went over it with medium sand paper to give the painted surface a "key"

ive thought an alternative could be a tarpoline or even towels   :)

Mikecam gave me a tip which was brilliant; don't bother with the sandpaper - just get two cans of primer paint and spray the van floor with it.  It gives a better key for the protectakote to stick to than the sandpaper, it's quicker and far far easier too.

It's quick, easy, no rubbing and sweating (phnaaar phnaaaar).
thats the way did it after you mentioned it before tosh, was hassle free really
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: LWC on July 25, 2011, 05:06:50 pm
Footwells? Water I wouldn't be letting that happen! Mines just a flat floor. Might give it a go for a week or so and see if water collects up. If without any leaks there is then I'll paint it :)

Yeh footwells, as its a crew cab, the seats fold down flat. Great for storage  ;D
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on July 25, 2011, 09:13:59 pm
yeah i must admit sanding was laborious  :( wish i new about the paint primer idea now  :P
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: traps7 on July 25, 2011, 09:38:53 pm
As said earlier, you only need to 'key' it or scratch it up so the paint can adhere to it. I used some of those foam sanding blocks because they fit in all the grooves of the van floor. Only needs a quick rub over, not back to metal.

Truth is though, I hardly get any water in the back of my van. Only a few drips off the brush head or if I spring a leak which I fix asap.

I found the Protectakote was handy for making the back of the van non-slip though. On wet days, with wet feet, it did get rather slippy in the van.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: bobplum on July 25, 2011, 10:01:11 pm
I have always painted my vans floor and to be honest if it was a big van and system i would all the time. But i am in the process of fitting a combo with a 400 layflat, one reel, one pump.

the only place it can leak is at the hose reel so i'm wondering wether its worth painting the floor?

Do you paint your floors or not? If not have you found it a massive issue and leading to rotten floors etc?

Thanks

find yourself a supplier close to you who sells EPDM rubber roofing  and get a section cut out to fit in the van floor and a little over so it goes up the wall and that way you capture any water,its roughly £2.00 a sq mt
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Tom White on July 25, 2011, 11:40:05 pm
find yourself a supplier close to you who sells EPDM rubber roofing  and get a section cut out to fit in the van floor and a little over so it goes up the wall and that way you capture any water,its roughly £2.00 a sq mt

Isn't there a chance it could trap moisture underneath it and that dampness will just stay there?
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Londoner on July 26, 2011, 07:32:46 am
The big thing with my van was going round and sealing all the seams with a mastic before applying the protectacote. Otherwise the water can get through to the front.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: bobplum on July 26, 2011, 07:34:31 am
find yourself a supplier close to you who sells EPDM rubber roofing  and get a section cut out to fit in the van floor and a little over so it goes up the wall and that way you capture any water,its roughly £2.00 a sq mt

Isn't there a chance it could trap moisture underneath it and that dampness will just stay there?
its worked for me
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: geefree on July 26, 2011, 05:51:43 pm
No ply , ..............simply paint with waterproof non slip  floor paint,

cheap as chips and does the job,

dont waste your money on expensive proteka stuff.


Also when it needs a repaint to brighten it up... again , nice and cheap.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Your Choice w/c on July 26, 2011, 06:02:17 pm
I painted my floor when i first started WFPoling and thought about doing it again about 12 months later.I find the Protectakote expensive so decided to get the floor fitted with Chequer plate aluminium sheeting.JOB DONE!and NO MORE PAINTING
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Tom White on July 26, 2011, 06:28:05 pm
I painted my floor when i first started WFPoling and thought about doing it again about 12 months later.I find the Protectakote expensive so decided to get the floor fitted with Chequer plate aluminium sheeting.JOB DONE!and NO MORE PAINTING

Does that really ensure that no water can get through it; say at any possible joins/seams; and then remain 'locked' between the aluminium plate and the van floor?

It sounds like a more expensive option to me.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: andyM on July 26, 2011, 06:55:27 pm
I priced up some chequer plating before but found that it worked out excessively expensive to do the back of my van.
It would look good though.
If you sealed all the joints and gaps with clear silicone sealant it should keep everything watertight.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: EandM on July 26, 2011, 08:00:31 pm
I have a PickUp.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: Your Choice w/c on July 26, 2011, 08:47:36 pm
Chequer plate was about £100 basically for 2/3rds of the back of my Transit front to back.The centre section of the van is where i store my trollies and water containers and is sealed where it needs to be.  The Protectakote alone is about £70 i think and probably lasted 10 months before it needed doing again.The chequer plate will last a few years at least i would have thought.
Title: Re: Do you Protectakote or not?
Post by: traps7 on July 26, 2011, 09:17:43 pm
No ply , ..............simply paint with waterproof non slip  floor paint,

cheap as chips and does the job,

dont waste your money on expensive proteka stuff.


Also when it needs a repaint to brighten it up... again , nice and cheap.

That's what I'm gonna do next time. What paint did you use though?