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Title: north south divide
Post by: rycalshaw on July 19, 2011, 12:10:21 pm
i always read with interest whenever theres a post about earnings with some lads saying their earning £200 per day on domestics etc,where i live your struggling to do much more than that in a week,theres a post running at the moment regarding daily rates for commercial and the prices being thrown about i could only dream of, am i charging enough or is there some sort of divide going on..i,m in yorkshire by the way...
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Wc Solutions on July 19, 2011, 12:15:26 pm
north south divide is everything tho isnt it.

house prices etc .....

so if someone in say london earns £200 a day - he will prob have to pay a lot more for his living costs so surely it roughly balances out?
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Steve Sed on July 19, 2011, 12:25:32 pm
i always read with interest whenever theres a post about earnings with some lads saying their earning £200 per day on domestics etc,where i live your struggling to do much more than that in a week,theres a post running at the moment regarding daily rates for commercial and the prices being thrown about i could only dream of, am i charging enough or is there some sort of divide going on..i,m in yorkshire by the way...

Some window cleaners here don't earn much more, but that is because they have been going too long and not put their prices up. They also don't believe that they are worth any more.
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: d s windowcleaning on July 19, 2011, 02:00:47 pm
i always read with interest whenever theres a post about earnings with some lads saying their earning £200 per day on domestics etc,where i live your struggling to do much more than that in a week,theres a post running at the moment regarding daily rates for commercial and the prices being thrown about i could only dream of, am i charging enough or is there some sort of divide going on..i,m in yorkshire by the way...
where in yorkshire are you ? what type of prices are you charging ? im allso in yorkshire (barnsley ) and theres some days when my earnings top £200 just on domestic .
theres other lads from around here who allso do more than £200 .
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 19, 2011, 02:19:09 pm
I'm from Barnsley also, working trad, part time at the moment possibly hoping to build it up to full time and leave my other job. I struggle to do more than 100 in a day working alone at the prices in this area. I want to raise them but when I look into what friends and family are paying i'm not sure I could. For example my mother lives in Shafton and is paying 4 quid for her semi which is. Fairly big with a small porch which has glass also.
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: d s windowcleaning on July 19, 2011, 02:28:54 pm
I'm from Barnsley also, working trad, part time at the moment possibly hoping to build it up to full time and leave my other job. I struggle to do more than 100 in a day working alone at the prices in this area. I want to raise them but when I look into what friends and family are paying i'm not sure I could. For example my mother lives in Shafton and is paying 4 quid for her semi which is. Fairly big with a small porch which has glass also.
i do work in shafton but charge more than £4 , which part of barnsley you from +have you thought about going wfp ?
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: rycalshaw on July 19, 2011, 02:44:38 pm
i,m from barnsley aswell and i too do trad ,most of mine are council estate houses and most of em think their giving you the earth at £4 a shot, ds wot do you charge for a bog standard 3 bed semi.....
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: d s windowcleaning on July 19, 2011, 03:12:21 pm
i,m from barnsley aswell and i too do trad ,most of mine are council estate houses and most of em think their giving you the earth at £4 a shot, ds wot do you charge for a bog standard 3 bed semi.....
£8  , what part of barnsley you from ?
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 19, 2011, 03:29:46 pm
I live in Birdwell but come from Shafton originally. My round is in Sheffield. But prices are the same. Have thought about going wfp but can't afford it at the moment, also concerned about whether it will make me much quicker with all the moving of the van hose reeling etc as i'm all domestic.
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: d s windowcleaning on July 19, 2011, 03:33:15 pm
I live in Birdwell but come from Shafton originally. My round is in Sheffield. But prices are the same. Have thought about going wfp but can't afford it at the moment, also concerned about whether it will make me much quicker with all the moving of the van hose reeling etc as i'm all domestic.
i can get you set up for wfp for £275 .
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 19, 2011, 03:52:20 pm
Could you? What sort?
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: d s windowcleaning on July 19, 2011, 04:04:10 pm
ro unit 200 gpd , backpack , pole cant remember other stuff its all more or less brand new the lad would probally take £25 for it .
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 19, 2011, 04:12:28 pm
Dont know much about backpacks, wouldn't you be forever going back for.more water? What type of setup do you have?
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: d s windowcleaning on July 19, 2011, 05:22:23 pm
Dont know much about backpacks, wouldn't you be forever going back for.more water? What type of setup do you have?
i just use a 200 gpd ro unit into a static tank , then pump it into my van . yeah with a back pack you just keep filling up from tubs of water .
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Dave66 on July 19, 2011, 08:11:56 pm
whereabouts in sheff u work?
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 19, 2011, 10:12:54 pm
Think I might start saving up and get a van mounted system eventually. Think it would give me more scope to do different jobs. Only been doing this a few months so still sussing everything out.
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 19, 2011, 10:14:56 pm
I'm in Killamarsh
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Dave66 on July 19, 2011, 11:23:13 pm
sorry to hear that  ;D
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 20, 2011, 01:00:35 am
 Thanks  ;D ;D
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: birdymiller on July 20, 2011, 07:24:33 am
ive got a round at killamarsh, ex council and council houses £3.50 - £4.00 3 bed semis. hard work!
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: dazmond on July 20, 2011, 07:37:13 am
im going down to london with one  of my brothers and dad to stay at my other brothers apartment in a few weeks.the price of everything from rent to food,fuel etc,etc is staggering!!its so much more expensive to live down there.i live in the north west and its way cheaper.

seriously though if your only pulling in just over £200 a week whatever part of the country you live in you must be slow and very underpriced IMO.i dont know how you  manage to make ends meet.i would of packed window cleaning in a long time ago if thats all i could earn in a week.


regards


dazmond
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Pope vader on July 20, 2011, 07:45:02 am
how long is it takig to earn the 200per week
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on July 20, 2011, 10:46:55 am
ive got a round at killamarsh, ex council and council houses £3.50 - £4.00 3 bed semis. hard work!
eff that!!! id rather work in tesco mate!
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: rycalshaw on July 20, 2011, 10:50:36 am
i may av been exaggerating a little but i did say much above £200,i do work alone and am nearer 50 than 40 but,as said in previous post my council hs customers think their paying the earth at £4 a pop so i could never earn the sort of money most of  you   lads seem  earn,i honestly thought it was an area thing,i may have to review my prices,thanks for your input. ps when you went to water fed did the custys take some convincing and is it a lot easier and quicker coz theres no doubt al be doing it until am 90 :'( lol
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on July 20, 2011, 11:28:20 am
get a wfp van mount and up your prices mate, take no prisoners! your ment to be a business man!  ;)
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Pope vader on July 20, 2011, 11:32:26 am
just go wfp if they moan, dump them, 
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on July 20, 2011, 11:43:32 am
just go wfp if they moan, dump them, 

here here, then canvass better jobs!
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: supernova77 on July 20, 2011, 11:52:27 am
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i may av been exaggerating a little but i did say much above £200,i do work alone and am nearer 50 than 40 but,as said in previous post my council hs customers think their paying the earth at £4 a pop so i could never earn the sort of money most of  you   lads seem  earn,i honestly thought it was an area thing,i may have to review my prices,thanks for your input. ps when you went to water fed did the custys take some convincing and is it a lot easier and quicker coz theres no doubt al be doing it until am 90 Cry lol

Drive into the countryside and canvass bigger houses and charge more money!
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: p1w1 on July 20, 2011, 12:45:54 pm
how long is it takig to earn the 200per week
At a rough guess I'd say a week  ;D
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: bad trippy on July 20, 2011, 01:39:40 pm
i may av been exaggerating a little but i did say much above £200,i do work alone and am nearer 50 than 40 but,as said in previous post my council hs customers think their paying the earth at £4 a pop so i could never earn the sort of money most of  you   lads seem  earn,i honestly thought it was an area thing,i may have to review my prices,thanks for your input. ps when you went to water fed did the custys take some convincing and is it a lot easier and quicker coz theres no doubt al be doing it until am 90 :'( lol
the situation aint gonna change unless you change the situation!
3 words that inspire me the most from this forum is CCC
Canvass Clean Cull
Now get out there, canvass much better work and dump/ sell your rubbish.
There aint that much of a gap between north/ south, i know northern guys on here who charge roughly the same as me
Also get WFP ASAP, Its at least 50% quicker, if not more
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: birdymiller on July 20, 2011, 03:03:36 pm
ive got a round at killamarsh, ex council and council houses £3.50 - £4.00 3 bed semis. hard work!
eff that!!! id rather work in tesco mate!
like i said its hard work, but i can rattle 6-8 off an hour on my own so much better than tesco
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: birdymiller on July 20, 2011, 03:08:37 pm
Dont bother with wfp ive tried it and no way is it 50% faster than trad. Forget about all the i charge £25 for a 3 bed semi its XXXX. How long you been at it £200 a week is low
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: barry mallett on July 20, 2011, 03:26:18 pm
ask em to pay you in pigeons, ferrets and whippets . that way you can always feed the kids rabbit stew or pigeon pie , plus you  can always clothe em in rabbit skins in the winter , theres a guy on here from burnley a lot of his custys pay him in black pudding , and he does ok  ;)
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services on July 20, 2011, 04:34:24 pm
Its true that your money is on the low side,it can be for all kinds of reasons, but don't believe all what you here, some can earn the sort of money being thrashed round this forum,and some lots more, but to do it day in day out,not many can do that.
Try and set yourself a target for the week, then the next week try to better it by say10% and continue doing a bit of canvassing when your finished in an area.

Steve
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: cozy on July 20, 2011, 04:43:59 pm
Was talking to one of my custies today, most ignore me, :-[ Anyway, her dad is over to visit from Fife. Chatting away, as you do, and his wife says they have a windy back home who charges 3.30 a monthly clean. That's for a 3 bed detached!!!  She said that when they first had the windy, it was only 3 quid, but he put the price up last year!!

Full respect to the Jocks. They work in crap weather and must have hellish custies sometimes.
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: rycalshaw on July 20, 2011, 08:19:14 pm
ask em to pay you in pigeons, ferrets and whippets . that way you can always feed the kids rabbit stew or pigeon pie , plus you  can always clothe em in rabbit skins in the winter , theres a guy on here from burnley a lot of his custys pay him in black pudding , and he does ok  ;)
funnilly enough i do go rabbiting and do keep ferrets,the flat cap comes in handy for the tips at christmas. ;)
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on July 20, 2011, 08:43:16 pm
 buy and read this book
 "who moved my cheese" by dr spencer johnson
You will soon get on track and be earning more IMO
 :)
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Dave66 on July 20, 2011, 10:03:35 pm
buy a cheap wfp set up, 50% quicker and 100% safer  ;)
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: d s windowcleaning on July 20, 2011, 10:36:35 pm
Think I might start saving up and get a van mounted system eventually. Think it would give me more scope to do different jobs. Only been doing this a few months so still sussing everything out.
can take you to meet a mate of mine whos got a fully fitted system by a well known company .
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 21, 2011, 03:57:43 pm
Might take you up on that mate if i eventually take the plunge and go full time. At the minute my main job is fairly well paid so its not something i'll give up in a hurry. I reckon i'll earn less cleaning windows so it would be.more of a lifestyle choice if I ever do go full time. Thanks anyway though.
Title: Re: north south divide
Post by: Klean07 on July 21, 2011, 09:28:27 pm
i may av been exaggerating a little but i did say much above £200,i do work alone and am nearer 50 than 40 but,as said in previous post my council hs customers think their paying the earth at £4 a pop so i could never earn the sort of money most of  you   lads seem  earn,i honestly thought it was an area thing,i may have to review my prices,thanks for your input. ps when you went to water fed did the custys take some convincing and is it a lot easier and quicker coz theres no doubt al be doing it until am 90 :'( lol
I did trad for 20 years then when I was 48 I bought a van mount wfp system and changed all my trad custards over to wfp. My point is that I would sooner be wfp at 50 than trad. Enuf said!!!!