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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richy27 on July 16, 2011, 09:53:54 am

Title: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: richy27 on July 16, 2011, 09:53:54 am
mine has gone up by 25 % this year with the same % growth in demand the last 3 years
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Dave_Lee on July 16, 2011, 05:52:02 pm
Businesses can expect to grow if marketed efficiently until they level out as near saturation is reached.
After that when very few extra jobs can be taken on, it can only grow by increasing prices or the job ticket or both.
Mine has remained fairly constant over the last 3 years as I reduce general marketing and concentrate on existing customers.
Dave.
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Linds Russell on July 18, 2011, 12:42:12 pm
Mine has gone up by 50% since I started 3 years ago. That is mainly due to pulling out of newspaper advertising which was good for job numbers but gave me my lowest average job ticket by a mile (I track all my advertising figures).
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Simon Gerrard on July 18, 2011, 03:35:32 pm
Surely average job ticket is irrelevant, total sales is the only true measure of how well or badly you are doing.

Simon
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: markpowell on July 18, 2011, 04:33:49 pm
The job ticket is important to some extent. You dont want to be working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day to earn £1000.
I agree the only figure that really matters is what is left in your pocket at the end of each month after all your business costs.
Mark
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Simon Gerrard on July 18, 2011, 04:51:58 pm
Mark,
I think you mean hourly rate. The average job ticket is just a statistic, whereas £'s per hour is meaningful data that can be cross referenced against your financial plan.

Simon
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: richy27 on July 18, 2011, 05:08:45 pm
Surely average job ticket is irrelevant, total sales is the only true measure of how well or badly you are doing.

Simon

simon feel you miss understood what i was trying to find out is if people have put there prices up as costs have gone up or have they lowered their prices to try to increase demand .  to be honest the question is irrelevant to how people are actually doing.

i myself have increased prices to keep the same margin but have spent more on advertising to increase demand.
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: neil 47 on July 18, 2011, 05:09:00 pm
If you worked it out again like a lot of cleaners who charge about £30 per ... well, you can do the maths yourself ...

You charge £30 per and you worked 4 hours a day (£30 x 4 = £120)
You work six days a week (6 x £120 = £720)
You work for 48 weeks a year (48 x £720 = £34,560)
 you'll only make just under £35k a year ...
take off the costs, tax etc... and your only making about £10,000 a year - Plus You Have To Find MORE JOBS!
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Simon Gerrard on July 18, 2011, 05:27:48 pm
Richard,
An average job ticket isn't as accurate a measure as the hourly rate. If you've increased your charges you should see it reflected in your hourly rate and your hourly rate is a calculation arrived at by knowing all of your fixed and variable expenses and from that identify your target hourly rate so you can measure it against the actual hourly rate.
Having a higher average job ticket doesn't mean you are doing better, it may just mean from what jobs you do your average is higher than it was, that's why averages are only statistics and not useable data that tells you where you are in relationship to where you should be.

Simon
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Neil Williams on July 18, 2011, 05:37:58 pm
To be honest I've never really given it that much thought due to all the varients that happen over a week.
I normally aim for £x/hour but sometimes I end up doing it for £(x-10)/hour and on a good day £(x+10)/hour or even £(x+20)/hour.
The only way to truely measure this would be to take your income per month (easily enough found) and devide by the number of hours worked, but does that include travel time to each job?
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Jim_77 on July 18, 2011, 05:59:25 pm
Neil if you divided your monthly profit by your time spent on the job cleaning PLUS all of the actual hours spent working on your business (driving, servicing kit at home, doing paperwork etc etc...) ..... it'd probably work out not much higher than minimum wage!

Scary, but hey ho we do this because we love it!
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: colin thomas on July 19, 2011, 07:35:45 pm
i'm with you there jim, there are some jobs i finish and i don't like to think what the profit is,

 :o  colin
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Warren Aldridge on July 19, 2011, 07:52:36 pm
Ive been dividing the job price by the hours. Hours are calculated from getting out the van on arrival and driving off.
But, this is actually an unrealistic figure.

If you want to really work out your hourly rate or what you earn, then divide the money by the full days hours.
From when you drive out your drive, until you arrive home at the end of the day.

If you really want to depress yourself then add all the research and admin time after hours.

Some of us, like me being a newbie "work" until 11 at night. However its still fun and interesting at this stage.
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on July 19, 2011, 09:01:54 pm
The most accurate figure would be when you arrive at your clients address then leave your last clients address, I can't remember ever getting paid to drive from home to work and work to home.

Shaun
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Neil Williams on July 19, 2011, 09:28:08 pm
Neil ..... it'd probably work out not much higher than minimum wage!

I'm going to run that one by the accountant next time he's around ;D
Title: Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
Post by: Warren Aldridge on August 05, 2011, 05:59:16 pm
The most accurate figure would be when you arrive at your clients address then leave your last clients address, I can't remember ever getting paid to drive from home to work and work to home.

Shaun


Because we have field based clients we are effectively outbound reps. The hours we drive in a day makes a difference to how much we can earn.

A rep gets paid his salary and that includes him driving around to clients, even if he has to travel the whole day. Then he gets his commission from sales on top. I can earn more money in a day if my jobs are all in my area, therefore I count travel time when calculating hourly rates.