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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: A P T on July 12, 2011, 09:40:27 am
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Hi to everyone. We just got a new contract, and Im interested to hear your opinions on just what machine, either type or specific, you would suggest. Will be purchasing one or two for this particular task which is : approx 90,000 sqM of corridor carpets, vast majority of which are polyprop, to be done twice a year, numerous sites (29) buildings of varying heights, ( from 9 storeys to 30 )
have got a shopping list in mind, but always interested to hear other views and opinions,
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Will you be bonneting or HWE'ing?
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Hi Colin,
first choice was planned to be hwe, with a bonnet set up as a back up
main issue i see with hwe, lots of grafting, but then again, there is with bonnet mopping too
what do you think ?
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I would use a high powered porty/tm with a rx20 for badly soiled areas , then bonnet the rest , that is 20 acres nearly of carpeting.
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I would use a prochem supernova or polaris you dont want to be waving a wand around that lot you will end up like popeye
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that's interesting, thanks guys.
First option was to be the polaris 1200 or 800, although the supernova works backwards and forwards, i heard they might not be as manouverable as first thought, anuone got experience of the supernova ?
agreed, we thought the wand might be a bit much !
would also use the bonnet as a back up
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Dry fusion ?
Encap ?
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No I have a polaris but if I had a nice contract like that I would invest in a supernova as from what I have read and know about the polaris it must be equal if not better
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thanks for that Mark, but Steve, any suggestions for equipment if your processes were to be used ? and how about productivity ?
Mark, would you suggest the polaris is up to doing say, 1000 to 1500 SqM a day ?
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Not sure on the encap productivity, Geoff Wrightson is the man to comment on that, but I'm sure it's high - in the region of 200m2 per hour but I stand to be corrected.
Machine-wise, it would be a three-headed Cimex scrub machine.
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i'd get simon in to do it, take him a week. and i'm not jokin either.
and he'd do a good job.
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:) nice one derek, so this chap, he used to teach at Hogworts did he ? 90,000 SqM over 30 buildings in a week ? I heard of some fast workers, but just maybe that would be stratching it a bit hehe, then again, if he would do a weeks work for grand or two, we could still make money ! will give that some serious thinking about, thanks
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I would look into a CFR Cascade if you think extraction will be required.
It's faster than bonnet cleaning and easier.
There is also the machine from the guys that import surround. I can't remember their names though. It's about £10k
It will all depend on what the smallest and largest areas are.
We have one site that has over 6 miles of corridors in it. We use a combination of the cascade and bonnet cleaning with dfc over the quarterly visits.
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http://www.carpetmax.co.uk/ (http://www.carpetmax.co.uk/)
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interesting, thanks. there are a couple of quite tiny corridors, for example outside of some of the penthouse apartments, where the area can be as small as 25 SqM, the largest is probably a floor a just under 2M wide and just under 350M long
will definetly have a look at these products, thanks
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A P T,
You say you've just got a new contract but you don't seem clear on which method / methods you're going to use, so how did you manage to formulate the tender on the first place?
Simon
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No, I've always been clear, just here on the forum I've been inviting opinions, thats all
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sorry, meant to add in last posting, although I have decided on the method, i am still interested to hear a) which back up system the users here preferred and b) which piece of hardware, as there are always many opinions to listen too, its always worth asking the question,
cheers
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any portable will be a nightmare with such an amount of carpet, its an awful amount of filling and emptying. is there access to water and disposal on every floor?
a truckmount is not an option either, it has to be bonnet, encap' or something that has not been mentioned....
http://www.vonschrader.com/Mach-12_2107J.pdf
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fortunately in almost every building, we have access to water and water disposal on each floor, otherwise, true, a portable would be a potential problem, but in the few cases where the operator fill have to go up and down to empty and refill, we considered it still worthwhile using a portable, its more a question of productivity and to be honest, its looking like the polaris 1200 may be up to the job, unless someone knows better,,,,,,,,,,,
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:) nice one derek, so this chap, he used to teach at Hogworts did he ? 90,000 SqM over 30 buildings in a week ? I heard of some fast workers, but just maybe that would be stratching it a bit hehe, then again, if he would do a weeks work for grand or two, we could still make money ! will give that some serious thinking about, thanks
simon potter, its got a ring to it. ;D
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APT,
With respect, you seem to be all over the place as to how exactly you are going to do all of this work. With so much carpet to clean and having got the contract, don't you think it is a bit late to be starting to think about how to execute it? It sounds like you don't have the machinery in place, but then seem to be choosing the machinery based on speed over the job rather than a machine / system that fits the soil conditions and surely all of that should have been worked out in advance?
Perhaps some test patches with different systems / techniques on different soil levels to establish what is best and where.
Simon
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thanks for that Mark, but Steve, any suggestions for equipment if your processes were to be used ? and how about productivity ?
Mark, would you suggest the polaris is up to doing say, 1000 to 1500 SqM a day ?
yes the polaris will do 250SqM an hour in corridors it would be a 3 man job though 1 operator 1 cable guy and 1 water boy the cable guy and water boy alternate throughout the day I normally use a tea urn to heat the water and use 25 ltr containers to bring clean water and remove dirty
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The two way model will eliminate the cable guy.
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yes I know but I dont have a supernova :( was just saying what I do :) But it nice to have a bit of company on big jobs lol