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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: edward1 on June 30, 2011, 09:33:53 pm
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went passed a house i clean only to see another windy cleaning .
i have discovered that she has myself and another window cleaner
how strange
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We have one silly old bat who has one old boy to do her house and we do the conny and its roof ???
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iv got 1 house for last 2 months that a windy has just turned up cleaning it at first they thought it was my worker which it isnt,second time they wernt in when did them and he cleaned them a day before me,streaks on windows and he must of missed the fronts cuz they were to dirty,im back there next week so see if they have told him p*ss off yet
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I have got two custys that have myself clean windows every four weeks and an old bloke that they have had for a hundred years ;D clean every ten weeks!!!!!!!!!
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went passed a house i clean only to see another windy cleaning .
i have discovered that she has myself and another window cleaner
how strange
Usually what happens here is they have had a trad cleaner for years and he charges £2 or summat a fortnight. They don't want to tell him he's crap, and for £2 a fortnight they'll not upset him. Then they get a WFP guy to clean them properley once a month. At no point does it enter the trad guys head that anythings amiss. Are you WFP or trad edward?
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wfp sir
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Why are all wfp windys so insecure?
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went passed a house i clean only to see another windy cleaning .
i have discovered that she has myself and another window cleaner
how strange
Usually what happens here is they have had a trad cleaner for years and he charges £2 or summat a fortnight. They don't want to tell him he's crap, and for £2 a fortnight they'll not upset him. Then they get a WFP guy to clean them properley once a month. At no point does it enter the trad guys head that anythings amiss. Are you WFP or trad edward?
Or maybe they keep the trad guy on cos he gets rid of the spots that the WFP guy leaves. ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Been checking windows on houses that say they have a windy for last month while canvassing.Can tell the ones cleaned by wfp cleaners by the spotting if your picky you can find spotting on 50-60% of windows cleaned by wfp.Even a leading ro wfp manufacurer will tell you theres only 40-50% chance of a perfect window with wfp.spotting with wfp, squeegy marks from trad there is no perfect way to clean a window.have 18 months experience with wfp 20 years trad.Youy can do a good job with either with good technique and experience but niether is perfect 100% of the time.
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I agree, but why the continual slagging of of trad by wfper's, horses for courses and all that. Round here 80% of custys wont have wfp, that is why I cant switch.
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I agree, but why the continual slagging of of trad by wfper's, horses for courses and all that. Round here 80% of custys wont have wfp, that is why I cant switch.
That sounds like they have a very cavalier attitude to another human being's safety. I wonder how they would drive if you got in a car with them.
Seriously though, I would be very surprised if it was 80% if you just went ahead anyway. I think much depends on how it's presented. I suppose that if you were to sound out your customers and ask them if they wanted what they currently have or if they wanted their windows left wet then it might even be more than 80%. When I switched, on the previous visit I left a pre-printed note with their bills informing them that the switch would be happening soon, of the advantages of WFP (including my safety), and that if there were any imperfections after the first clean, they would rapidly be resolved on the second clean. Unfortunately it is the case that with some types of jobs, it can take a clean (occasionally two) to discover the weak links so that you can put them right.
There was something like a 5% turnaround of customers in the first few months of WFP whereas it had been totally settled before that. Some I lost. Some I gave up on. It was a price worth paying though.
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sf
i beg to differ sir,
every window i clean wfp or trad is perfect every time .
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Been checking windows on houses that say they have a windy for last month while canvassing.Can tell the ones cleaned by wfp cleaners by the spotting if your picky you can find spotting on 50-60% of windows cleaned by wfp.Even a leading ro wfp manufacurer will tell you theres only 40-50% chance of a perfect window with wfp.spotting with wfp, squeegy marks from trad there is no perfect way to clean a window.have 18 months experience with wfp 20 years trad.Youy can do a good job with either with good technique and experience but niether is perfect 100% of the time.
and i agree with that,if you want to be picky you can find some degree of spotting on 50% or so,may only be a couple of spots but they will be there,most customers dont notice or mind or care they just want the bird crap dust and dirt etc washed off
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sf
i beg to differ sir,
every window i clean wfp or trad is perfect every time .
That's a bold statement!
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I had an ol gal cancel me three months ago because she'd bought a wonderful new money saving window cleaning device fro her better ware catalogue. I said "oh ok.......but if you find out it's a crock o poope and ya want me back............." you'll never guess what :-) I tried to warn her. £16 in the bin ::)
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went passed a house i clean only to see another windy cleaning .
i have discovered that she has myself and another window cleaner
how strange
Usually what happens here is they have had a trad cleaner for years and he charges £2 or summat a fortnight. They don't want to tell him he's crap, and for £2 a fortnight they'll not upset him. Then they get a WFP guy to clean them properley once a month. At no point does it enter the trad guys head that anythings amiss. Are you WFP or trad edward?
result for trad guy turning up to weeks after wfp windy...chuck the bill in and leave (posted on bumpers behalf ;D)
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went passed a house i clean only to see another windy cleaning .
i have discovered that she has myself and another window cleaner
how strange
Usually what happens here is they have had a trad cleaner for years and he charges £2 or summat a fortnight. They don't want to tell him he's crap, and for £2 a fortnight they'll not upset him. Then they get a WFP guy to clean them properley once a month. At no point does it enter the trad guys head that anythings amiss. Are you WFP or trad edward?
result for trad guy turning up to weeks after wfp windy...chuck the bill in and leave (posted on bumpers behalf ;D)
I have a few where they have a trad as well. Few weeks ago he was about six houses down from me and working his way up!! We spoke for a bit etc... and i wondered what he would do when he got to the house i'd just done as he knows i do it too. I didn't hang around to find out. My guess is he just left it and knocked as normal for his £3, but thats only a guess !!
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if i got my car valeted and it came back soaking wet, dripping everywhere and leaving white spots everywhere like you wfp amateurs id wonder if the valeter wanted to stick his dick up my arse. so suck my dick and lick my balls cos wfp is for lazy fat tossers who are trying make an easy job hard... hahahahahaha muppets
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what a complete mug. U can earn 3 times as much in a day wfp over trad. In comparrison whilst you are sweating your nuts off up n down n carrying ladders and bucket all day struggling earning 100 quid us wfp boys are taking it easy taking 300. So stick that up your arse n suck it. ;D ;D
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calm down ,calm down
as i said windys i clean are always perfect.
wfp knackers your back and trad knackers your ankles . ;)
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yea right till the hose freezes or the pump packs up or tank freezes or brusk scratches the windows shall i stop there
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I trad and will take home circa 40 quid per hour.
So if you can do 120 quid an hour then great, but not really sure you do
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massive bite u mug.
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having been a good trad cleaner for 16 years and wfp 13 months i can honestly say you trad guys are really in the dark when it comes to wfp cleaning.
it really is easier,faster,safer and you earn more money.it also does a fantastic job most of the time once you get the hang of it.
any of you guys that stay trad are really a bit foolish.there is a much better tool for window cleaning that your missing out on.i can say that i myself was a bit cagey about wfp in the beginning but it really is better and more enjoyable.your hourly rate will soar and you can take on those awkward jobs that you would turn down if your ladders only.
dont get me wrong i still use trad on some work but its only around 20% of my work now.mostly ground floor work.
best wishes to you all
dazmond
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I agree, but why the continual slagging of of trad by wfper's, horses for courses and all that. Round here 80% of custys wont have wfp, that is why I cant switch.
IT WAS THE SAME EVERYWHERE STEVE until you make a stand. Once you have confidence in wfp you just get on with it...the real stalwart anti wfp custys you may lose, and that wont be as many as you think (or others would have you believe) are easily made up for in new work (previously unnaccessable windows + new work)
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just have to put a pennies worth in here. I have been trad (as people are now calling it) for 20yrs, but have not yet tried WFP, however either way what I do is clean windows both commercial and domestic and therefore I am just a window cleaner just like everyone else on this forum link, why get so caught up with the 'do you or don't you cr@p'. I have recently picked up a lot of work from houses that no longer want WFP but I can still appreciate the merits of that system, albeit I remain to be convinced in certain situations. I watched in confusion the other day as a guy WFP a bungalow and it took him twice as long as I would with my flashing blade, having said that I think they're great for anything above 2 storeys. But no way do I accept that there isn't a place for trad cleaning as it is quite simply impossible to know if a window is properly clean from several metres away. I have never heard a customer or anyone say that they were pleased once their windows were cleaned WFP, it really is only for the safety and profit margin of the window cleaner, which is fine. I want to be safe but I also want to do a good job, hopefully like everyone else also wants to do.