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Title: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: Poles R Us on June 30, 2011, 05:25:21 pm
ive got a job comming up soon  do i need to strap the ladders to the wall ? hard hat and all that poo.
warwickshire is were im at. i know you need to in scotland.
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: boldy1304 on June 30, 2011, 07:19:18 pm
its not just the ladders has the roof got sufficiant saftey barriers in place around sky lights and so on ???
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: Poles R Us on June 30, 2011, 07:27:20 pm
see what you meen i will look into it , so even though its me up on the roof i need to put cones and stuff out and barriers.
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: George Gardner on June 30, 2011, 08:23:05 pm
damn the law, have you never done 71mph on the motorway - same thing ennit  ;)


Sorry unrelated but from the picture I see your into MX and your in Warwickshire! Do you race at all?

Did you ever come down to RideMx down my way in Stratford upon Avon?

Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: rg1 on June 30, 2011, 08:33:33 pm
damn the law, have you never done 71mph on the motorway - same thing ennit  ;)


Sorry unrelated but from the picture I see your into MX and your in Warwickshire! Do you race at all?

Did you ever come down to RideMx down my way in Stratford upon Avon?



I've heard of a shop in Bristol called Ride MX
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: Jackal on June 30, 2011, 08:45:39 pm
ladders are banned full stop!!

wfp will be banned in the next 6 months!!

cherry pickers only from now on,just going be awkward get to the backs of propertys but can be done!

Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: Jeff Brimble on June 30, 2011, 08:56:12 pm

wfp will be banned in the next 6 months!!

£5 says your wrong, 6 months is 29 Dec 2011.
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: Jackal on June 30, 2011, 09:31:37 pm

wfp will be banned in the next 6 months!!

£5 says your wrong, 6 months is 29 Dec 2011.

can't you count, it will be the 30th dec 2011  ;)
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: NJWindowCleaning on June 30, 2011, 09:51:55 pm
If ladders are banned is there loads of steeplejacks out of work??  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: George Gardner on June 30, 2011, 10:14:58 pm
damn the law, have you never done 71mph on the motorway - same thing ennit  ;)


Sorry unrelated but from the picture I see your into MX and your in Warwickshire! Do you race at all?

Did you ever come down to RideMx down my way in Stratford upon Avon?



I've heard of a shop in Bristol called Ride MX


Hooray someones heard of us!

Yer we sold it in Feb this year to Meridith Mx in Bristol  ;D

Those were the good days, I tell thee
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: sf on June 30, 2011, 11:35:00 pm
Ladders have been banned for years.Thats why you can still buy 1 from b&q or hire 1 from tool hire shop.Ladders have to be secured above 6m other than that your fine.wfp will be banned long before ladders.you wait till a couple of idiots get electrocuted.
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: boldy1304 on July 01, 2011, 06:52:13 am
see what you meen i will look into it , so even though its me up on the roof i need to put cones and stuff out and barriers.


the owner of the building has a duty of care to make sure you are safe on the roof ive done a roof on a massive factory the owner had to have a scaffold barrier all the way around and in front of sky lights although i think there are cheaper ways it depends on how close to the edge your working how close to sky lights ect ect
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: SimonBurton on July 01, 2011, 08:23:40 pm
I have been looking into this for a while, following the jokers putting out flyers saying ladders are illegal so we now do WFP!

H & S Executive's website mentions ladders are ok is used competently.

I asked our local Trading Standards and they got H and S Execs reposnse of not illegal, if used for more than 30 minutes in one position then needs securing or a cost effective viable alternate needs to be used. 

If you are up the ladder for more than 30 minutes without moving it is eother one big window and you are slow or you have fallen asleep.

The key is keeping it safe, there is risk in everything - minimise it!

While we are on it why do so few in our trade use cones and warning signs?#

I have a Traffic Engineering background so use cones and signs where appropriate.

Simon
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: tacky on July 01, 2011, 09:29:01 pm
that is true simon .but most people including myself .find it safer ,and quicker using wfp .iv had a few near misses on ladders .but that was the risk untill wfp came along
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: ashbash on July 01, 2011, 09:42:33 pm
if its to high get ure missis to it they you can foot the ladder and have a nice view of a bit of hairy gash
#
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: idealrob on July 01, 2011, 10:11:25 pm
I have been looking into this for a while, following the jokers putting out flyers saying ladders are illegal so we now do WFP!


I asked our local Trading Standards and they got H and S Execs reposnse of not illegal, if used for more than 30 minutes in one position then needs securing or a cost effective viable alternate needs to be used. 

Simon

Where in law does the 30 minute rule come in, the WAHR says the ladder must be secured, no mention of 30 mins imo

idealrob
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: boldy1304 on July 01, 2011, 11:58:45 pm
in the working at height regs 2005 it states and i quote     you must ensure that NO work is done at height if it is safe and reasonably practicable to do it other than at height.

you must use the most suitable equipment   unquote

i got nothing against ladder windys i got 2 mates that do it still i did it for years but wouldnt go back in a millian years my ex is a surgery nurse in deriford hospital and says they are forever operating on people that have fallen off ladders  :'( not for me guys but you carry on
Title: Re: whats the law with ladders now
Post by: idealrob on July 02, 2011, 09:24:56 pm
in the working at height regs 2005 it states and i quote     you must ensure that NO work is done at height if it is safe and reasonably practicable to do it other than at height.

you must use the most suitable equipment   unquote

i got nothing against ladder windys i got 2 mates that do it still i did it for years but wouldnt go back in a millian years my ex is a surgery nurse in deriford hospital and says they are forever operating on people that have fallen off ladders  :'( not for me guys but you carry on

Good post & good point

idealrob