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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JandS on June 21, 2011, 08:04:50 pm

Title: VAT
Post by: JandS on June 21, 2011, 08:04:50 pm
Just looked at a bill for some gear
I bought couple of weeks ago.
They added the postage on then
charged VAT on both the item and
the postage - doesn't seem right
paying VAT on postage.

John
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Neil Williams on June 21, 2011, 08:07:39 pm
Quite sure they can't add Vat onto the cost of postage. Post and Package might be different as they could add it in there.
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: John Kelly on June 21, 2011, 08:20:11 pm
Although a supplier doesn't pay VAT if they send something through Royal Mail they have to charge VAT on the postage to the recipient as it is a service that has been provided by a VAT registered company (the supplier).  The only time VAT isn't charged on P&P is when the goods being sent are VAT exempt/Zero rated (such as books).

Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Joe H on June 21, 2011, 08:25:30 pm
Sadly John (JandS), its the norm.
Just pay the tax like we expected to do.
Its a crippler, but it aint going to go away.

Wish I had never joined the tax scheme.  ;D
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Neil Williams on June 21, 2011, 08:53:25 pm
And that's why I leave these matters to my fantastic wife because I'm happy to put my hands up and admit that admin isn't my strong point ;D 
Vat on postage? How did that come about? it's not as if you have a choice on the matter if you need something :o
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Len Gribble on June 21, 2011, 08:54:33 pm
When the EU folds up what’s the betting VAT will still be charged
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 21, 2011, 09:05:20 pm
Some of the older gentry may remember vat being introduced I bet there was uproar?

Shaun
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Steve Rothwell on June 21, 2011, 09:10:29 pm
there was and it was 8 1/2% at the time
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Helen on June 21, 2011, 10:10:01 pm
there was and it was 8 1/2% at the time

I was told that it was only really charged on luxury items and services when it first came in......should have stayed that way :(
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Ian Gourlay on June 21, 2011, 11:33:21 pm
What gets me is porn Magazines are VAT FREE
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: derek west on June 22, 2011, 12:07:49 am
What gets me is porn Magazines are VAT FREE
they have added  VAJ ;D
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Andrew Briscoe on June 22, 2011, 12:15:08 am
What gets me is porn Magazines are VAT FREE
they have added  VAJ ;D

thats typical of our country, w*nkers dont pay vat
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Jim_77 on June 22, 2011, 12:18:40 am
Just goes to prove, there's some right t!ts that get away tax free.  And just as many left ones!!
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: John Kelly on June 22, 2011, 07:51:30 am
Ted Heath introduced VAT and all the plebs were joyous as it was only applied to luxury goods like Rolls, Royces, Rolex watches etc.

Once a tax is introduced there is only one way for it to go, up, up, up.

Title: Re: VAT
Post by: clinton on June 22, 2011, 08:06:18 am
Your right john and it maye go down a little at some point but as you say may go up again in the future ::)
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Ian Gourlay on June 22, 2011, 08:08:42 am
If I remeber corretly there was a thing called purchase tax

I think there were two rates

From a retail point of view before computers VAT has been a pain

I remember once having to work all weekend changing the price stickers as the tax went up on Monday

Got to Monday and we received a letter from Head Office saying there was no need to do that , the increase nly applied to new stock

That year we reduced our shringage ie missing stock through staff theft shop liffting , parcels gone astray , bad paper work etc etc to nil and ended up with a substantional plus figure.
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: Eric Lloyd on June 24, 2011, 11:45:25 pm
Going from memory Purchase tax was as you say two rates, the upper one was I think 55% on luxury goods, all applied to the wholesale price before the retailer got them, so there was no workload for the retailer. When vat first came in it was a horrible shock for shopkeepers etc. who had to do all this accounting stuff - they used to run courses to show people how to do it - and it applied to anyone with a threshold turnover of £5000 plus. The starting rate was 10%. A year or two later the labour government put it up to two rates - 8% and 12.5% for things and stuff  respectively Then it became 15% overall, then 17.5% and now 20%, and the annual threshold went up year by year to its present level. All blamed on Ted Heath who at the same time gave away our fishing to the Common Market and abolished RPM (Resale Price Maintenance) so loads of small shops disappeared...one could go on but thats enough boredom for one night
Title: Re: VAT
Post by: wynne jones on June 25, 2011, 12:23:35 pm
You don't understand. This country needs all that extra money. We have people to house and feed from all over europe and beyond and fight wars in countries far away that have nothing to do with us, but we are British and we need to show the world how benevolent we are.

 I trust our politicians are spending our money wisely.