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Title: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: dazmond on June 07, 2011, 08:02:32 am
so guys my van has a 625kg payload so im trying to keep things as simple as possible to be within the van weight limits.

350L TANK(375KG INCLU TANK WEIGHT WHEN FULL)

TROLLEY(50KG)

HOSE/REEL(30KG)

TRAD GEAR(20KG)

LADDERS(25KG)

WARNING CONE(10KG)

ME(110KG)

all that lot takes me to 620kg and doesnt include fuel and roofrack so it looks like i should not fill the tank to the brim and fill to around 300L so ill be slightly underweight overall.of course as the day goes on itll get lighter and lighter.also i wont be able to give anybody a lift with a full tank in the back or i will be overweight unless i take trolley and hose reel out.

i know one thing ill be making sure i get a van with a bigger payload when i get another. ;) ;D ;D

regards


dazmond
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: dazmond on June 07, 2011, 08:13:55 am
i forgot my poles!(CLX 22FT/SLX 25FT)but they weigh next to nothing!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: G Griffin on June 07, 2011, 08:16:34 am
20kg trad gear? What are you using, Dazmond?
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Pope vader on June 07, 2011, 08:21:49 am
leave the trolly at home, unless you know you will need it
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Spruce on June 07, 2011, 08:23:43 am
You probably will find that you will use your trusty trolley less and less as time goes on. When you do use it you will find that decanting water from your main tank is time consuming.

Also your 350 liter tank won't hold 350 liters as the baffels take up volume. I expect your tank will hold about 330 liters so you have a 20kg saving there.  ;D ;D ;D

I also don't think your trad gear weighs 20kgs either, but nevertheless you will be well advised to plan your day and take only the necessary equipment you need for that section of the round.

 
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on June 07, 2011, 08:25:41 am
I think you have over estimated a few things, like ladders unless they are wooden 25kgs is a bit much, trolly, is it really 50kgs, hose reel, trad gear. Must be one big cone, but better to be safe than sorry.

You haven't got any vikan brushes have you, that might just put you over.  ;D

Simon.
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Scrimble on June 07, 2011, 09:30:26 am
why dont you just load it up fully then take it to a weigh bridge to find out exactly how much it weighs?
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Dougaldum on June 07, 2011, 09:34:06 am
just get a biger van ???
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Jeff Brimble on June 07, 2011, 01:48:03 pm
as above Any HGV hauliers will have a weighbridge.Leave the water out and then just add 350kg. Get each axle weighed as well.
I squeezed a 350L tank into the back of the Berlingo multispace  ::)
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Mist A Bit on June 07, 2011, 02:15:17 pm
i must be well over weight !!!!!!!! At least for the first hour or two
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: focuscoleraine on June 07, 2011, 03:05:11 pm
  Daz did you include battery weight. regards Des.
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: KLEENAWAY on June 07, 2011, 03:54:59 pm
Just thinking daz...you said your trolley will weigh 50kgs but wont it be empty?? I dont know how much they weigh empty but surely not that much ??? And sorry to hear about the mrs mate, hope everything turns out ok!

Danny
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: dazmond on June 07, 2011, 03:55:34 pm
i included the battery weight in with the trolley.ok i was generous with the trad gear weight but im including a toolbox/pump for tyres and towrope in with that.

the bright spark who said just get another van well im saving up for one!but ive already spent a fair whack on this one getting new clutch,brakes and getting it through another MOT so ill be keeping it for a while yet.

ive never even heard of a weighbridge near me.there must be one somewhere but how do they calculate it?as the van weighs a certain amount so how will i know an accurate load weight?! ???

i tell you one thing the van "rocks" back and forth with half a tank full when driving it!!is this normal?not used to it i suppose. :P :P.

spruce i wont be using the trolley at all anymore.its in the van cos im using the pump,battery and  digital varistream thats on it with the 2 drop pipes going straight into the tank via the top filler lid.
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Spruce on June 07, 2011, 03:59:49 pm
i included the battery weight in with the trolley.ok i was generous with the trad gear weight but im including a toolbox/pump for tyres and towrope in with that.

the bright spark who said just get another van well im saving up for one!but ive already spent a fair whack on this one getting new clutch,brakes and getting it through another MOT so ill be keeping it for a while yet.

ive never even heard of a weighbridge near me.there must be one somewhere but how do they calculate it?as the van weighs a certain amount so how will i know an accurate load weight?! ???

i tell you one thing the van "rocks" back and forth with half a tank full when driving it!!is this normal?not used to it i suppose. :P :P.

spruce i wont be using the trolley at all anymore.its in the van cos im using the pump,battery and  digital varistream thats on it with the 2 drop pipes going straight into the tank via the top filler lid.

Sorry, I forgot you were using trolley in that mode. Wouldn't it be simpler to strip the pump battery and Varistream off of it and fit them into the van? It would give you more space.
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Seymour Sunshine on June 07, 2011, 04:07:07 pm
so guys my van has a 625kg payload so im trying to keep things as simple as possible to be within the van weight limits.

350L TANK(375KG INCLU TANK WEIGHT WHEN FULL)

TROLLEY(50KG)

HOSE/REEL(30KG)

TRAD GEAR(20KG)

LADDERS(25KG)

WARNING CONE(10KG)

ME(110KG)

all that lot takes me to 620kg and doesnt include fuel and roofrack so it looks like i should not fill the tank to the brim and fill to around 300L so ill be slightly underweight overall.of course as the day goes on itll get lighter and lighter.also i wont be able to give anybody a lift with a full tank in the back or i will be overweight unless i take trolley and hose reel out.

i know one thing ill be making sure i get a van with a bigger payload when i get another. ;) ;D ;D

regards


dazmond

I can see one place that you could save quite a bit of weight ... unless you're 7 foot 6 inches.
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: dazmond on June 07, 2011, 04:10:57 pm
yeah it would spruce but id probably knacker it up.DIY not one of my strong points!dont like the idea of messing about with them and finding myself  having to shell out more money!ive already spent a tidy sum over the last year on WFP.some of it ive wasted like aluminum/fibre glass poles and vikan brushes!!

are there any utube vids of anybody dismantling a trolley of pump,controller and battery? ???
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: dazmond on June 07, 2011, 04:15:19 pm
i was weighting for that!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

im actually 117 kg!(nearly 18 and a half stone!).im 6ft 2in.could do with losing some but im not fat really.its more muscle which is heavier than fat! ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: TomCrowther on June 07, 2011, 04:18:09 pm
I use that line myself Daz  ;)
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: spongebob on June 07, 2011, 05:36:49 pm
Most scrapyards have a full size weighbridge. Plenty of them about. You could park the front and back wheels on it seperately as well to get a weight for each axle.
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: clearlyclean on June 07, 2011, 06:00:57 pm
There's a weigh bridge on Trafford Park Unit G, Canalside North, John Gilbert Way, Trafford Park, MANCHESTER M17 1DP
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on June 07, 2011, 06:19:25 pm
as above Any HGV hauliers will have a weighbridge.Leave the water out and then just add 350kg. Get each axle weighed as well.
I squeezed a 350L tank into the back of the Berlingo multispace  ::)

JEFF were you within the weight limit at 350 litres? I have a multispace (used as van with blacked out windows and sign written, everyone thinks its a van) it would be good to know. thank you
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on June 07, 2011, 06:21:31 pm
I used the same van with a 400ltr tank for over 5 years Dazmond, had my ladders & trad gear too.

Taking legal issues out of the equation, the van will handle it no problem. ;)
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 07, 2011, 06:58:22 pm
so guys my van has a 625kg payload so im trying to keep things as simple as possible to be within the van weight limits.

350L TANK(375KG INCLU TANK WEIGHT WHEN FULL)

TROLLEY(50KG)

HOSE/REEL(30KG)

TRAD GEAR(20KG)

LADDERS(25KG)

WARNING CONE(10KG)

ME(110KG)

all that lot takes me to 620kg and doesnt include fuel and roofrack so it looks like i should not fill the tank to the brim and fill to around 300L so ill be slightly underweight overall.of course as the day goes on itll get lighter and lighter.also i wont be able to give anybody a lift with a full tank in the back or i will be overweight unless i take trolley and hose reel out.

i know one thing ill be making sure i get a van with a bigger payload when i get another. ;) ;D ;D

regards


dazmond

Have a dump before you leave in the morning.
Also, is it possible to work it so that you start work very close to your water supply each day?
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: oliver collins on June 07, 2011, 07:15:12 pm
Hi

I have a friend who has a dispatch and and wants to fit a 650lt tank in it i have been trying to convince him that is not safe, but he determened to fit it all in

Do you think its safe

Regards Oliver Collins
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: s.w.c on June 07, 2011, 08:07:47 pm


ME(110KG)


dazmond


you sure 110kg was you wearing your glasses ;D
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: Dave Willis on June 07, 2011, 08:11:13 pm
Hi

I have a friend who has a dispatch and and wants to fit a 650lt tank in it i have been trying to convince him that is not safe, but he determened to fit it all in

Do you think its safe

Regards Oliver Collins

Depends on which model - old shape 2l hdi are 900kg. Newer shape goes up to about 1100 I think
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 08, 2011, 08:26:34 am
Doblo 1.3 - payload 736kg

400L Tank, fittings, insulation and water - 450kg
Reel, hose, pump, battery, poles - 50kg
Trad gear, tools, spares inc 6ft ladder - 20kg
Me - 85kg
Backpack and sacktruck - 10kg
Extra full to brim one or two 25L barrels of water - 30/60kg
Other crap (waterproofs, paperwork,) - 15kg

Total  660/690kg
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on June 08, 2011, 01:33:05 pm
Doblo 1.3 - payload 736kg

400L Tank, fittings, insulation and water - 450kg
Reel, hose, pump, battery, poles - 50kg
Trad gear, tools, spares inc 6ft ladder - 20kg
Me - 85kg
Backpack and sacktruck - 10kg
Extra full to brim one or two 25L barrels of water - 30/60kg
Other crap (waterproofs, paperwork,) - 15kg

Total  660/690kg

Roof bars? ply lining? tank of fuel? spare wheel?
Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 08, 2011, 05:12:24 pm
No roof bars - I'm ladderless
No ply lining
Spare wheel - included in manufacturer's weights
Tank of fuel would be about 60 litres or 51Kg so I never fill to the brim - especially first thing in the am or when I carry a second barrel.

Title: Re: keeping it simple to reduce weight in van
Post by: david watts on June 08, 2011, 07:00:04 pm
daz i would not take trolley apart;
i have a pump in a box from red hat on e bay;really good also if it packs in you have
a spare; i still use trolley most.
also know its a dirty word but use ladders too ;D