Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Sean Dyer on June 04, 2011, 09:35:19 am
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I am currently using a brodex 27 ft pole for pretty much all my wfp work, i use it at full stretch a few times a day over connies and 2nd storey stuff etc
I want to get some thing lighter, but i dont want an array of poles , the main problem with the brodex despite its weight ! is the closed length , its the same as a big 45 foot one i have, so i have to change for downs, or does everyone do that
What poles for everyday would you suggest?
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A CLX-27 would be a major step in the right direction,.. much lighter & a very good closed length. Quite cheap too,.. but possibly out of stock!
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25 ft Gardiners SLX it will feel like nothing after using that Brodex pole ;D ;D
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18 foot slx is even better. It does the majority of my domestic work and I have a 27 foot CLX for higher stuff.
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agree with tosh here.
get 2 poles,
18 ft slx, does most of my work, and keep your brodex brick, for the odd higher window, or get an slx 30 as well.
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agree with tosh here.
get 2 poles,
18 ft slx, does most of my work, and keep your brodex brick, for the odd higher window, or get an slx 30 as well.
My leaning so far was to a clx 18 foot and a slx 35, the for any odd higher stuff in time get a modular carbon pole/sl2 or similar
But is the difference between the clx/slx 18 that much in weight to justify another £100?
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Ive never used the clx, so cant comment,
All i can say is that you will be using the 18ft slx for most of your working day, on the average domestic, so get the lightest and most rgid.
Again i cant comment on the clx, but the slx really lasts, ive had mine for 2 yrs now and its still going strong.
When i used 17ft extels, they only lasted 6 months, so in reallity ive saved money.
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ok thanks
might get a clx for the help and slx for me :) looks like im saving for 18 , 35 slx and a sl2
ouch
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Is there a huge real world difference in weight and closed length between an slx18 and slx22?
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Is there a huge real world difference in weight and closed length between an slx18 and slx22?
The SLX 22 just has an additional section. Same closed length but a bit heavier.
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Is there a huge real world difference in weight and closed length between an slx18 and slx22?
The SLX 22 just has an additional section. Same closed length but a bit heavier.
how come its OK for the SLX to bit a HEAVIER, in this instance
(I know ther is another section added but it is only 18ft & 22ft)
but the Water Fed Pole Company pole is knocked for being a bit HEAVIER
than a comparable pole from gardiners?
I dont expect gardiner fans to know the answer ;D
I,m sure everybody with their own judgment, knows
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Is there a huge real world difference in weight and closed length between an slx18 and slx22?
The SLX 22 just has an additional section. Same closed length but a bit heavier.
how come its OK for the SLX to bit a HEAVIER, in this instance
(I know ther is another section added but it is only 18ft & 22ft)
but the Water Fed Pole Company pole is knocked for being a bit HEAVIER
than a comparable pole from gardiners?
I dont expect gardiner fans to know the answer ;D
I,m sure everybody with their own judgment, knows
It's physics. You add another section to an already existing pole and it has to be heavier unless you change the material.
I'm not too sure what the problem is with making a comparison between 2 products and then making a decision based on weight. That was the original posters problem, the pole being too heavy and wanting something lighter. From what I've read the Elite is a very good pole, just 20% heavier than the SLX at a comparable length, and I recall someone had an issue with one breaking, but other than that I think people have been satisfied.
My advice to Sean is to buy as light as you can afford. If you could stretch to an SLX 25 extreme it would be money well spent, if not go for the standard SLX 25. The lighter and more rigid the pole the faster you can work with it, and I think that within a few months the pole will earn the extra you pay for it. If you do just 1 extra house a day at £10 because of working faster, over the course of a month or 2 the pole could be paid for.
Simon.
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But is the difference between the clx/slx 18 that much in weight to justify another £100?
I thought the same, but was advised to go for the SLX because it's far stiffer than a CLX. I have a CLX 27 and it's great for occasional use, but I don't like the wobble or the ribbed surface.
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7, 18, 24, 35 + 65ft but Im currently injured :'(
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I have two poles now.
A SLX25 which does everything from ground to 30ft.
A Xtreme 48 for every thing above that. ;)
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i like it mate
nice and simple
the 25 isnt to much for the bottoms?? and small houses
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i like it mate
nice and simple
the 25 isnt to much for the bottoms?? and small houses
Slx 25 is fine for downstairs, I've been doing it for the past 3 years. Only about 5ft closed.
Simon.
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Personally I use a 25ft carbon fibre pole for the majority of my work and then a carbon fibre 48ft for anything the 25ft cannot reach. I find this combination works well for me. I know of many other window cleaners who use a 22ft for the majority and then a 30-40ft for everything else.
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i like it mate
nice and simple
the 25 isnt to much for the bottoms?? and small houses
No, it's a short closed length, I use a plastic angle adaptor & a swivel. I can do any window regardless of how low or tight the space is this way.
I find the extra reach of the 25ft pole of much more benefit than saving a few grammes of weight with a shorter slx.
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i find the clx clamps a bit cheap when extending im always tightening them up.
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thanks, think if i can manage a 27 foot brodex all day i can live with a 25 slx easy and the closed length sounds great , and will get a sl2 for everything else as ive got the odd 40 + foot window and some nearly 50 +on one job so sounds ideal
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i find the clx clamps a bit cheap when extending im always tightening them up.
It sounds like the barrel nuts need replacing on these clamps if they are needing constant adjustment. Each barrel nut has a little locking-part on the end of thread which holds on to the bolt. With age this can become worn and will not hold the bolt in exactly the same place during use. Replacing this barrel nut usually will cure this issue. I'm sure if you give the Office a call they can sort this for you.
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thanks, think if i can manage a 27 foot brodex all day i can live with a 25 slx easy and the closed length sounds great , and will get a sl2 for everything else as ive got the odd 40 + foot window and some nearly 50 +on one job so sounds ideal
The slx will feel like a pencil compared to the Brodex!! ;D I came from a facelift carbon to the slx & the difference even here was amazing.
If you can streach the budget, a 48Xtreme would be a superb choice for you other pole. Broken down, the Xtreme then feels like a pencil again against the slx! ;D
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why the extreme over the sl2?
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why the extreme over the sl2?
In use they are very much the same. The Xtreme however is telescopic- you can still remove sections though, it doesn't have to be used with all sections on, all the time. The SL is modular (push together sections) & so is slower & more hassle setting up & taking down. Although both poles are extremely strong in use the sections of the SL are more fragile when not in use & are so light can easily blow away with a breeze if you take one off & lay it on the ground.
Both superb poles but the Xtreme takes the lead with usability. All IMO of course having owned & used both.
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I'll add to that- you can also add extension sections to the Xtreme to go higher than the SL, I have one extension section which makes my Xtreme approx 53ft.
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thankyou :)
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thankyou :)
No problem.
In my own experience, money spent on the right poles is always money well spent. They will repay you both financially & physically, without doubt. ;)
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Sean Dyer,
I have used quite alot of poles and i bought a few Ionics Swift poles, expensive but absolute quality mate, really are superb.
If you decide to go for 45 and above at any point get intouch with me and i know someone who makes superlight poles that are excellent.
I have used the superlight that i bought from him, at almost 90ft, quite awkward, but he is designing something to add to it to give it maximum strength without the bend., which will make it without doubt in my opinion the best out there.
Let me know and all the best
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If you decide to go for 45 and above at any point get intouch with me and i know someone who makes superlight poles that are excellent.
Is that a open offer, if so any prices?
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Sean Dyer,
I have used quite alot of poles and i bought a few Ionics Swift poles, expensive but absolute quality mate, really are superb.
If you decide to go for 45 and above at any point get intouch with me and i know someone who makes superlight poles that are excellent.
I have used the superlight that i bought from him, at almost 90ft, quite awkward, but he is designing something to add to it to give it maximum strength without the bend., which will make it without doubt in my opinion the best out there.
Let me know and all the best
thanks archer . I will do. Gonna try get my hands on the much sought after slx first to see what the fuss is all about. But then i will be looking to replace my 45 foot beast with something that goes as high as possible as light as can be so yours sounds good. 90 foot , that sounds like hard work. Must be a decent pole.