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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JSMC on May 31, 2011, 08:15:01 pm

Title: Licence / Employing / Scotland
Post by: JSMC on May 31, 2011, 08:15:01 pm
for all the guys who employ  in scotland how do you work it with regards to the licence? if the guy is no use and you get rid of him then you have lost money invested in a licence. I read on here guys down south getting rid of giuys after a few days. This could be a costly exercise up here.
Title: Re: licence / employing / scotland
Post by: mci services on May 31, 2011, 10:53:35 pm
jsmc no one will give you a straight answer, so I will ;D, break the law and give them a trial if they are any good get them licensed, if you are lucky the area will do a one year license, unfortunately mines doesn't although they do a temporary one.

The procurator fiscal hardly ever goes ahead with a prosecution as long they apply after being caught ;)

I will be in trouble now ;D

I asked our enforcement officer this at the council, and he said he would use common sense and allow a short trial period although I doubt he would go on record and say that   
Title: Re: licence / employing / scotland
Post by: JSMC on June 01, 2011, 11:29:13 am
jsmc no one will give you a straight answer, so I will ;D, break the law and give them a trial if they are any good get them licensed, if you are lucky the area will do a one year license, unfortunately mines doesn't although they do a temporary one.

The procurator fiscal hardly ever goes ahead with a prosecution as long they apply after being caught ;)

I will be in trouble now ;D

I asked our enforcement officer this at the council, and he said he would use common sense and allow a short trial period although I doubt he would go on record and say that   

a trial period would make sense for something like this i reckon. However is it worth taking the chance. My mate is interested in doing WC andi suggested i could show him the ropes and stuff. wouldn't want him shelling out a few hundred quid on licence and insurance for him to think it is crap
Title: Re: licence / employing / scotland
Post by: mci services on June 01, 2011, 04:29:36 pm
I wouldn't chance it myself, and your mate would be the one that gets done, although you could find yourself in bother for not having employers liability, you have to ask if it is worth the hassle,

anyway the less new guys the better for you ;D
Title: Re: licence / employing / scotland
Post by: JSMC on June 01, 2011, 06:16:54 pm
he wont be working for me as he wants to get work for himself. I will just show him what to do and stuff and hopefully if he likes it then he can take it from there.
Title: Re: licence / employing / scotland
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 01, 2011, 06:37:12 pm
If they really must have those BS licenses, they need to refund the unused portion upon surrender.  DVLA manage it for road tax.  TV licensing manage it for TV licenses.  Not so difficult really.  At least they would have to actually do something for the money they scavenge from honest workers. (Do you get the feeling I'm not in favour of licensing  ? ;D ) .
Title: Re: licence / employing / scotland
Post by: gordonswindows on June 01, 2011, 10:29:36 pm
Got an excellent relationship with the local licence bloke. It is now agreed that any legal business can take on a new window cleaner for up to six weeks without a licence. We have to provide their details on day one and if we keep them on after the six weeks we must get the licence.

This allows us to "try before we buy" and is a great success

Talk to the local authority as they are not all obstructive

Gordon
Title: Re: licence / employing / scotland
Post by: mci services on June 01, 2011, 10:34:13 pm
Got an excellent relationship with the local licence bloke. It is now agreed that any legal business can take on a new window cleaner for up to six weeks without a licence. We have to provide their details on day one and if we keep them on after the six weeks we must get the licence.

This allows us to "try before we buy" and is a great success

Talk to the local authority as they are not all obstructive

Gordon

Yes that was more or less the verbal agreement I got as well from our guy. I honestly think a bit common sense can make things work.
Title: Re: Licence / Employing / Scotland
Post by: matthewprice on June 03, 2011, 10:11:45 pm
not our council no licence no work,and if you get found out you can loose yours as well ???
Title: Re: Licence / Employing / Scotland
Post by: mci services on June 03, 2011, 10:36:55 pm
not our council no licence no work,and if you get found out you can loose yours as well ???

where are you Mathew, what council?
Title: Re: Licence / Employing / Scotland
Post by: matthewprice on June 03, 2011, 10:50:23 pm
argyle and bute
Title: Re: Licence / Employing / Scotland
Post by: mci services on June 03, 2011, 11:11:47 pm
argyle and bute

I was just being nosey ;D I have nothing to add