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Title: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: geefree on May 24, 2011, 08:27:41 pm
Hi,

Had my transit 3 years now and time for a change,

Thinking of getting one of the above, Do any of you owners out there know if  they sorted the gearbox problems out?

think they may have had trouble pre 05 plate ??

Are they economical ? thinking of getting 09 plate cdi sport type maybe?

Any suggestions would be welcome.

p.s my other preferences are the  Navara/ thunder / or warrior pick ups, with a snug/ hard top at the rear.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: STEVE-UK on May 24, 2011, 08:40:54 pm
ive got a trafic 115bhp swb,its goes well,good on fuel, its a 60 plate and had a new rear door solenoid and radio,gearbox is ok at the mo but its only done 5k

dont know if i would risk buying one though, i opted for contract hire
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 24, 2011, 08:44:03 pm
had a 03 trafic more probs
than u wud belive
now got 07 vivaro 2.0cdti
superb van its the dogs  ;)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: luther1 on May 24, 2011, 08:46:41 pm
Didn't know you had problems with your old Trafic Gav,you never mentioned it? ;)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 24, 2011, 09:07:35 pm
Didn't know you had problems with your old Trafic Gav,you never mentioned it? ;)

was sure i did mention it a few times
infact more than a few cud av been a lot ov
times  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: dave.e on May 24, 2011, 09:10:09 pm
had a 03 trafic more probs
than u wud belive
now got 07 vivaro 2.0cdti
superb van its the dogs  ;)


could not agree more i have the same van and yes its the dogs nuts
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: G Griffin on May 24, 2011, 09:30:56 pm
had a 03 trafic more probs
than u wud belive
now got 07 vivaro 2.0cdti
superb van its the dogs  ;)

Doesn`t it mind you using it for work, Gav?  ;D
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: geefree on May 24, 2011, 10:17:42 pm
Thanks lads. the cdti ones look smart too, my transit is doing around 80 miles for £20 ..which is pretty bad ,

And just heard that all the pick up  trucks are juice guzzlers too...

Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: wpclean on May 24, 2011, 10:21:53 pm
What about the fiat scudo, citroen despatch they claim 40 mpg ?
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: geefree on May 24, 2011, 10:24:17 pm
Had one too dumpy bud...
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 24, 2011, 10:27:16 pm
had a 03 trafic more probs
than u wud belive
now got 07 vivaro 2.0cdti
superb van its the dogs  ;)

Doesn`t it mind you using it for work, Gav?  ;D

no this one loves work where as the
trafic loved being in the garage costing me dollar ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 25, 2011, 12:01:46 am
had a 03 trafic more probs
than u wud belive
now got 07 vivaro 2.0cdti
superb van its the dogs  ;)

I've still got an 03 Trafic.  It's had some problems - the biggest being that it needed a gearbox change at 40,000 miles.  Luckily it was just inside the warranty period.  The current gearbox has now done about 53,000 and so far, so good - though I'm not complacent about it.  I hunted around and now know a place that would strip the gearbox and replace the faulty part of the box for £800 - £900 if it fails again. I would lose the use of the van for 2 - 3 days but that would probably be the case if I had the whole box replaced.  Not great but better than £3k for a new box.
Apart from that the only items that probably didn't last as long as they should were the screen washer pump and the steering pump.  Otherwise the only things that have needed replacing have been the things I would have expected for a workhorse that's now done nearly 94k miles (clutch at 75k).
I'm told that it usually all starts falling apart around 100k miles so we shall see.  Hopefully I can get another three years (33k miles) out of it without things getting too expensive.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: clarkson on May 25, 2011, 08:17:19 am

  hi
  we run a 53 plate vivaro had from new so approaching 8 years now, fantastic van.
  i have the 2900 long wheel base so can carry 650 litres, three blokes, poles, reels doesnt even register the weight.

  i wouldnt exactly say its economical but no van this size is! but it is acceptable for what it is.

  have had no issues only just tyres and servicing.

  cheers

  john
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Sean Dyer on May 25, 2011, 08:46:30 am
ive recently picked up a vivaro 04 with 100k

Hope it doesnt fall apart  :o

just hoping it gets me into wfp for next 2 years as change everything over then i will get a newer one!!

so far so good though

took it to leeds yesterday and only problem i can find is the engine temp gauge is not budging

anyone know if thats an easy fix or how ££££ it costs ar garage?

thanks

ps, gazza everything else on it is class, comfy , fast , im chuffed with it :)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: H S and Son on May 25, 2011, 02:42:17 pm
had a 03 trafic more probs
than u wud belive
now got 07 vivaro 2.0cdti
superb van its the dogs  ;)

I've still got an 03 Trafic.  It's had some problems - the biggest being that it needed a gearbox change at 40,000 miles.  Luckily it was just inside the warranty period.  The current gearbox has now done about 53,000 and so far, so good - though I'm not complacent about it.  I hunted around and now know a place that would strip the gearbox and replace the faulty part of the box for £800 - £900 if it fails again. I would lose the use of the van for 2 - 3 days but that would probably be the case if I had the whole box replaced.  Not great but better than £3k for a new box.
Apart from that the only items that probably didn't last as long as they should were the screen washer pump and the steering pump.  Otherwise the only things that have needed replacing have been the things I would have expected for a workhorse that's now done nearly 94k miles (clutch at 75k).
I'm told that it usually all starts falling apart around 100k miles so we shall see.  Hopefully I can get another three years (33k miles) out of it without things getting too expensive.

Paul can you email me please info@oakleywindowcleaning.co.uk
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 25, 2011, 06:21:06 pm
ive recently picked up a vivaro 04 with 100k

Hope it doesnt fall apart  :o

just hoping it gets me into wfp for next 2 years as change everything over then i will get a newer one!!

so far so good though

took it to leeds yesterday and only problem i can find is the engine temp gauge is not budging

anyone know if thats an easy fix or how ££££ it costs ar garage?

thanks

ps, gazza everything else on it is class, comfy , fast , im chuffed with it :)

If it does start falling apart, that glue from Gardiner's is pretty good.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Sean Dyer on May 25, 2011, 06:30:44 pm
Thats encouraging thanks :)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: geefree on May 26, 2011, 07:59:21 pm
Thanks for your replies  ;)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 26, 2011, 08:05:23 pm
gaz i mean this 100%
spend as much as you can afford
if that means pre 05 on this van
then walk away , no change that RUN away
this time last year i spent 2.5k on a trafic 03
then spent over 6k on repairs m8 fact 03
trafic nearly bankrupted me take this advise m8 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: TomCrowther on May 26, 2011, 08:20:50 pm
Sean, my Movano temp gauge doesn't move much at all so it may be a "feature"  :)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Sean Dyer on May 26, 2011, 10:19:05 pm
fair enough

will have to look out for the smell of my engine burning followed quickly by plumes of blue smoke :)

Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Wrekin C S on May 26, 2011, 11:24:59 pm
Alright Gaz

Why not go for another Tranny? How reliable has yours been?
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: geefree on May 30, 2011, 10:27:38 pm
Thanks Gav, your advice will be taken .  ;)



Hi Wrekin,

My transits been ok , hardly any problems at all really, its 06 plate , but old shape,

but its really poor on fuel , its 2.0 td.... and i carry 650 litres first thing .... and i get 20 mpg /.

And i fancy a change of van i think  ;)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Darranvps on May 31, 2011, 04:25:52 pm
We have a amongst others a 2008 Peugeot Boxer MWB high roof, which is fast, economical - I think! and a bit different than the trannys etc
We bought it new and so far very few problems.
Great to drive loads of space, looking for another one any time now.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: telboy on May 31, 2011, 05:10:10 pm
I bought a 2 year old Vivaro 2003 plate 22,000  on the clock,
new clutch about 80,000 miles New gear box about 90,000
EGR valve at 95,000
Since then another new clutch and gear box then under warrenty another new clutch and gear box
and 4 more EGR valves hoping the clutch and gear box last
I hear they have been improved on since 2006
Mine is 1.9 DR LWB and it has done 103.000 miles on an 03 plate
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Wrekin C S on May 31, 2011, 06:42:42 pm
Thanks Gav, your advice will be taken .  ;)



Hi Wrekin,

My transits been ok , hardly any problems at all really, its 06 plate , but old shape,

but its really poor on fuel , its 2.0 td.... and i carry 650 litres first thing .... and i get 20 mpg /.

And i fancy a change of van i think  ;)

Alright Gaz,

I got a Transit minor problems last 4 years of ownership - heard the new transits are better - drive better fuel etc.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 31, 2011, 06:53:25 pm
AA told me they are worse than old trafics
AA cancelled an order of over 4000
new transits  ;)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: geefree on May 31, 2011, 07:39:38 pm
Christ, running out of option !
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Sean Dyer on May 31, 2011, 07:42:12 pm
I bought a 2 year old Vivaro 2003 plate 22,000  on the clock,
new clutch about 80,000 miles New gear box about 90,000
EGR valve at 95,000
Since then another new clutch and gear box then under warrenty another new clutch and gear box
and 4 more EGR valves hoping the clutch and gear box last
I hear they have been improved on since 2006
Mine is 1.9 DR LWB and it has done 103.000 miles on an 03 plate


erm are you changing gear with the clutch in ??

Thats alot of new gear boxes, and clutches
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 31, 2011, 07:43:44 pm
how much u spending m8
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: telboy on June 01, 2011, 12:38:44 pm
I bought a 2 year old Vivaro 2003 plate 22,000  on the clock,
new clutch about 80,000 miles New gear box about 90,000
EGR valve at 95,000
Since then another new clutch and gear box then under warrenty another new clutch and gear box
and 4 more EGR valves hoping the clutch and gear box last
I hear they have been improved on since 2006
Mine is 1.9 DR LWB and it has done 103.000 miles on an 03 plate


erm are you changing gear with the clutch in ??

Thats alot of new gear boxes, and clutches

;D
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 01, 2011, 01:27:23 pm
I bought a 2 year old Vivaro 2003 plate 22,000  on the clock,
new clutch about 80,000 miles New gear box about 90,000
EGR valve at 95,000
Since then another new clutch and gear box then under warrenty another new clutch and gear box
and 4 more EGR valves hoping the clutch and gear box last
I hear they have been improved on since 2006
Mine is 1.9 DR LWB and it has done 103.000 miles on an 03 plate


erm are you changing gear with the clutch in ??

Thats alot of new gear boxes, and clutches


The Trafic/Vivaro/Primastar gearbox issue is usually about the gear selection cable.  Where it enters under the box, there is insufficient protection from the water/salt  spraying up from the road.  This causes a bearing to corrode inside the box.  I'm told that there was a modification around the 55 plate.  I understand that the boxes were protected better against the water spray.  Modification or not, it would be hard for me to trust these vans again.  It was the most expensive and newest vehicle I had ever bought and the gearbox went when I had used it for less than 2,000 miles.  Although I've done well over 50k miles in it now, I still don't trust it.
Also, when replacing the clutch, the slave cylinder should be replaced as well.  Not doing this can cause problems.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Wrekin C S on June 01, 2011, 03:50:08 pm
Dont think I would buy one - I know the likes of VW Transporters and Toyota Hiace are more expensive to buy in the beginning but could save a lot of hassle and money in the future maybe thats the way to go?
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 01, 2011, 04:03:26 pm
Dont think I would buy one - I know the likes of VW Transporters and Toyota Hiace are more expensive to buy in the beginning but could save a lot of hassle and money in the future maybe thats the way to go?

Hiace may well be my next choice - depending on payload.  I hope to squeeze 3 more (hopefully not too expensive) years out of the Trafic first.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on June 01, 2011, 06:19:53 pm
yes i looked at brand new hiace lwb
very similar in looks to transporter
was like 199 per month + vat  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Wrekin C S on June 01, 2011, 10:47:02 pm
Alright Gav was that a brand new Toyota if so where from matey sounds like a decent price.
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on June 01, 2011, 10:57:05 pm
brand spanking new m8 lindop
brothers wrexham
toyota dealers think its llay new rd m8
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on June 01, 2011, 11:24:16 pm
We have a amongst others a 2008 Peugeot Boxer MWB high roof, which is fast, economical - I think! and a bit different than the trannys etc
We bought it new and so far very few problems.
Great to drive loads of space, looking for another one any time now.

What are your other vans?
Title: Re: Vivaro, trafic and primstar owners
Post by: Ian101 on June 03, 2011, 08:30:18 am
brand spanking new m8 lindop
brothers wrexham
toyota dealers think its llay new rd m8

until last year I was sales manager for Lindops  :)