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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: GREEN WATER on May 15, 2011, 09:50:43 pm

Title: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 15, 2011, 09:50:43 pm
Or8 lads n lasses, i'm looking for advice on which pole to get.. I'm looking at getting the trolley system from pf and upgrading to a 27ft hybrid xtel, but not sure about the pole. I've also been looking at the clx27 but would have to wait til june  :-\ and the elite20 / elite25...Any info would be much appreciated, kind regards, Shaun..... :)
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 15, 2011, 09:52:42 pm
didnt we do this last week shaun?  ;D
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 15, 2011, 09:53:03 pm
4get the trolley get a van system
and the clx  ;)
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Post by: matthewprice on May 15, 2011, 10:00:29 pm
did the trolly thing did not work for me to heavy toooo much time going back to fill up stairs down stairs way to much go for the van and the slx it will pay for itself in no time ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 15, 2011, 10:18:16 pm
Or8 Dan, yeah we did this last week and i was looking at the clx27, but i'd have to wait til june  :(, as for the slx25, i'd have to wait til july... Do you know if the elite20 / 25 is any good...Also, what would be a good brush head to use...Gav n Matt, i'm starting at the bottom and would be working from the car, so its got to be the trolley system for me :) , kind regards, Shaun....
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 15, 2011, 10:22:15 pm
supa lite extreme m8
wiv out a doubt  ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: matthewprice on May 15, 2011, 10:25:24 pm
i was the same if you have got a run ,i would finance a van 220 a month 3 years money well spent  :)
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 15, 2011, 10:27:03 pm
I have never seen or used the elite shaun so i dont know. is there anyone you could borrow a pole off until june? or knock up a harris for £20 or whatever they cost? sorry mate thats my best suggestion. but i reckon if you could borrow one go ahead and order your pole for june.
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 15, 2011, 10:39:31 pm
Or8 matt, i wont touch finance m8, so i'm hoping that plenty of hard graft will get me one in near future :)..Dan,i come across  the elite's on a site called sure clean systems, i was looking for the wfp co site but ended up with  s c s instead  :-\, regards , Shaun...
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 15, 2011, 11:19:01 pm
Can anyone please tell me what would be a good brush head to get, i'm prob gunna go for the clx27 and have to wait til june  :'(, regards, Shaun.....
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 15, 2011, 11:34:37 pm
iv told you m8 supa lite extreme brush  ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on May 15, 2011, 11:36:58 pm
iv told you m8 supa lite extreme brush  ::) ::) ::)

I'll second that ;)
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Post by: GREEN WATER on May 16, 2011, 08:48:09 am
 ;D..Sorry Gav, I thought that was another pole m8.. ;D ;D,,regards, Shaun...
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 16, 2011, 03:45:27 pm
;D..Sorry Gav, I thought that was another pole m8.. ;D ;D,,regards, Shaun...

It is a pole too. good call shaun waiting for the clx27 a friend of mine who started window cleaning last year got impatient and ordered something instead of the gardiner pole i recommended him, that pole now sits in his shed it cost him over£100 and only used it for a month until he bought the reccomended pole. if you do have any work come in before then you could, dare i say it...trad them? have you decided what other bits to buy? Dan
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 16, 2011, 11:34:55 pm
Or8 Dan, yeah i'm going for pf trolley, 200 gpd ro , a 10" di, a handheld tds oh and a 250ltr baffled tank to get me started..I'm also thinking of getting some hose so i'm not lugging trolley all over...I'm going for the clx27with supa lite extreme brush...I think thats it for mo...Would you know wheres best place for warning signs and insurance m8, kind regards, Shaun.......
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: thermoclean on May 17, 2011, 11:24:45 pm
The elite pole is better than the slx and a mile better the clx or anything for that matter u will not be wasting ur money. I've had or tried every pole on the market
And the elite is my favourite the days of needing to wait for a gardener pole to back into stock are over.
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Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on May 17, 2011, 11:28:35 pm
The elite pole is better than the slx and a mile better the clx or anything for that matter u will not be wasting ur money. I've had or tried every pole on the market
And the elite is my favourite the days of needing to wait for a gardener pole to back into stock are over.

Why would a pole which is heavier & has a longer closed length be better? Even the WFPco have had to remove  the weights of the poles from the website as they got, lets say, caught out? ;D ;D
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Post by: Seymour Sunshine on May 17, 2011, 11:40:51 pm
Or8 Dan, yeah i'm going for pf trolley, 200 gpd ro , a 10" di, a handheld tds oh and a 250ltr baffled tank to get me started..I'm also thinking of getting some hose so i'm not lugging trolley all over...I'm going for the clx27with supa lite extreme brush...I think thats it for mo...Would you know wheres best place for warning signs and insurance m8, kind regards, Shaun.......

Can I suggest that you think about getting 30 m of yellow microbore or minibore and making TWO hoses. Make one @ 10 m and one at @ 20 m.

I do a BIG manor house and 20 m is quite enough to do each side. And for even quite large detached houses 10 m is long enough and much more manageable and quicker.
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: thermoclean on May 17, 2011, 11:41:49 pm
Ok I'm sorry to speak up against the cult of gardener  but I don't like there clamps
Why are they not glued on properly and why do need so much adjustment each day
There is not much difference in weight or length elite is just easier to use day in day out.  U are comparing stats on a website I am comparing the poles side by side  doing my work ???
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 18, 2011, 07:20:49 am
Ok I'm sorry to speak up against the cult of gardener  but I don't like there clamps
Why are they not glued on properly and why do need so much adjustment each day
There is not much difference in weight or length elite is just easier to use day in day out.  U are comparing stats on a website I am comparing the poles side by side  doing my work ???

Obviously I will not be commenting on which pole is better on this Forum :)

Just addressing the issues raised by yourself above.

Clamp gluing - this is no longer an issue for these poles. If your pole clamps are causing you a problem please ring up and we can arrange collection of the pole to put it through the workshop.

Adjustment - If this is needed 'each day' then this means that the locking barrel nuts are not locking for some reason (wear, over-tightening or fault) if this is the case please feel free to ring the Office (not allowed to post the number on this Forum) and we can send out some replacements.
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: Mike #1 on May 18, 2011, 07:40:30 am
we all like a bit off a rant but i dont like the slatting of products to much, as stated by alex contact the company , i would contact any company first if there was problem with a product as most companys will sort out any probs or concerns
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Post by: Mike #1 on May 18, 2011, 07:46:46 am
winproclean  closed length of elite is not longer than slx measured my 35ft elite and its 5ft 8" closed length cant comment on weight comparsion side by side as dont have slx , stated pole length for slx 35 ft is 5ft 9" specs on gardiners site
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 20, 2011, 01:18:57 pm
Or8 lads, thanks for feed back, but i'm gunna go with getting the clx27 to start of with as we got loads of new builds around here and surrounding ares, and alot of them seem to have 3 floors, ( lots of old farm land been sold off and been built on ).Also thinking about getting a clx18 at same time cus my village itself is full of domer bungalows and thought it would be better to use, or would i just wasting money, kind regards, Shaun... ;D
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 23, 2011, 03:39:07 pm
Or8 lads, supa lite extreme brush,, which ones the best to go for, soft or standard, kind regards , Shaun... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 23, 2011, 04:00:35 pm
you want the standard extreme brush
which is monofilament  ;)
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Post by: DeLuce on May 23, 2011, 04:33:01 pm
I tried the Mono SL (white bristles) after  :-Xusing the black bristled  dual trim SL  on newly cleaned windows (4-5 cleans) and found the Mono didn't do as good a job as the D T flocked S L. I personally think the Monos are better after youve been cleaning the glass for about a year or so :o, then its just a case of maintenance cleans and then Mono one would be sound  :P. I definitely found it easier to get crap of the frames with the dual trim flocked.
But in the end I suppose much of it comes down to your personal preference which you find by trying out different things, so good luck with that.
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: GREEN WATER on May 23, 2011, 08:01:07 pm
Thanks for replies lads, putting in my order for the clx27 / s l extreme standard 2mora, but b4 i do, can anyone tell me if it would be to long at closed length for downstairs windows, if it is, would a clx4 or a clx10 be any good, thanks in advance, regards, Shaun... :-\
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on May 23, 2011, 08:13:07 pm
winproclean  closed length of elite is not longer than slx measured my 35ft elite and its 5ft 8" closed length cant comment on weight comparsion side by side as dont have slx , stated pole length for slx 35 ft is 5ft 9" specs on gardiners site

I would check that again Pro'. The elite is both longer closed length & heavier according to both Gardiner & wfpco websites! ;)
Title: Re: POLE ADVICE
Post by: Mike #1 on May 24, 2011, 06:53:09 am
i stand corrected,  my bad measuring last week but i could only compare weight of elite 30 and slx30 , via both companys specs , elite 30 is 230 grams heavier,   Probably not as heavy as  cup of coffee i am lifting now  :) :)