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Title: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Andrew44 on May 13, 2011, 04:54:51 pm
There seems to be dried run marks on a window I cleaned.  It was first clean so a sprayed TFR (actual it was virasol) and left for no more than 5 to 10 mins probably nearer 5.

I know this can be a problem if it is left on for too long but surely just a few mins is nit enough to cause a problem is it?

Could it have been the virasol? 
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Dave Willis on May 13, 2011, 06:15:06 pm
Yes if it was a strong mix. I've done the same with Fleetclean TFR. I never use the stuff any more.
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Andrew44 on May 13, 2011, 07:19:23 pm
20:1 mix

That's not strong though is it?
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on May 13, 2011, 07:26:06 pm
If you did it while the sun was out then yes.

I use Virosol, but ONLY for conny roofs at 1:23
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Rogue Trader on May 13, 2011, 08:36:06 pm
TFR on windows!! i think the problem is there :o
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Andrew44 on May 13, 2011, 09:00:18 pm
If you did it while the sun was out then yes.

I use Virosol, but ONLY for conny roofs at 1:23

So I presume you do use it on glass con roofs??

If so do you not use it when its sunny on glass con roofs?
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Smudger on May 13, 2011, 09:48:03 pm
TFR on glass is not a problem unless left too long and in this weather you need to be quick.
 
i only use it at 2% as per instuctions.  and on windows in the sun i wet 1st then TFR - then scrub.

if you have TFR marks then you need to scrub it by hand

Darran
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Andrew44 on May 13, 2011, 10:14:57 pm
TFR on glass is not a problem unless left too long and in this weather you need to be quick.
 
i only use it at 2% as per instuctions.  and on windows in the sun i wet 1st then TFR - then scrub.

if you have TFR marks then you need to scrub it by hand

Darran

Thanks Darren

1. If you don't need to wet windows as its not that hot, how long would you leave the tfr on for? Max of how many minutes?

2. When you say scrub to get it off, what would you recommend?  Presumable soething more substantial than the WFP and brush?  Or will that do?

3. Will it always come off with enough scrubbing?   

cheers
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Smudger on May 13, 2011, 10:28:24 pm
if the window is not in direct sunlight you've got around 15 mins. - in winter upto the 1/2 hr mark - depends
on how strong the solution and how much you put on.

as a rule of thumb i spray 3 windows & frames then scrub them returning to the 1st for final wash over and rinse.

from experience - i forgot 1 window and got some marks - re applying tfr and wfp'ing didn't touch it - it looked good until the water dried i only got it off with the green sponge scourer thingies.. :(

Darran
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: john tomkins on May 14, 2011, 12:06:08 am
if the window is not in direct sunlight you've got around 15 mins. - in winter upto the 1/2 hr mark - depends
on how strong the solution and how much you put on.

as a rule of thumb i spray 3 windows & frames then scrub them returning to the 1st for final wash over and rinse.

from experience - i forgot 1 window and got some marks - re applying tfr and wfp'ing didn't touch it - it looked good until the water dried i only got it off with the green sponge scourer thingies.. :(

Darran





Oh dear, you will have removed the marks and left scratches... didn't you know you should only use the white scourers for glass, they are non scratch ???
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Smudger on May 14, 2011, 06:43:34 am
not the white ones - green and no they don't scratch the glass

opps- sorry mis- read above post - well the scrubber on the under pad is green !
& still never had any problems

Darran
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Craig Trevain on May 14, 2011, 12:41:51 pm
Use the ubik 2000.
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Dave Willis on May 14, 2011, 01:25:39 pm
Or Gardiners Ecover
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 14, 2011, 01:48:03 pm
Or Gardiners Ecover


bear baiting  ;D
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: sgibsoncleaning on May 14, 2011, 06:16:01 pm
the tfr i buy is 100/1 mix
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Rogue Trader on May 14, 2011, 08:35:30 pm
I dont inderstand this thread , using detergent on windows is trad cleaning isnt it ??? ???
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Smudger on May 14, 2011, 09:05:48 pm
Only if you use it everytime.... :P

Darran
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: Blackbushe Windows on May 14, 2011, 09:27:20 pm
Not sure why tfr would be considered for windows even first clean. Had a new custy recently, not cleaned in 8 years, only used pure water even with soft brush just a bit longer needed and thorough soaking initially.

Very happy customer.
Title: Re: Marks from dried TFR?
Post by: richard jagger on May 14, 2011, 11:15:54 pm
Dont put TFR on glass you don't need it.It sticks in the brush and make spots. If you must use something use IPA in your water.The TfR is more for UPVC and algae on connies.I would rather use GG4 and spray on brush and rinse well if I must.