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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: drive surgeon on May 06, 2011, 02:32:20 pm

Title: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: drive surgeon on May 06, 2011, 02:32:20 pm
hi guys, been asked to quote a few jobs for removing red paint from front of house. the whole front is painted red its a terraced house.  never done a job like that before and would involve scaffold aswell which have never bothered with. i work from the ground.   also when people say they do chemical brick cleaning what chemicals do they use?  i use brick acid to remove mortar etc. it does not shift efflorescence tho sometimes.  do i need low pressure steam or high pressure hot water to remove red paint? i bet the stuff goes everywhere does it? and how much do you charge for scaffold?  dont know whether to bother its sounds like a load of hassle really.  :-X
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: Matt Gibson on May 06, 2011, 03:54:29 pm
You'll need chems to strip the paint. Then you'll need a different kind of acid to clean the bricks underneath cause no doubt they'll be black. As for the scaff, why not just get a quote from a scaff company and add your bit on top. I'm sure it's a standard size terrace, the scaff guys should be able to give you a generic price for that type of house. We use to nail roofing batton down either side of the house an staple tarps and wrap the sides of the scarf to contain the crap. It's a messy job an chems aren't cheap so quote accordingly. Or just sub it out.
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: Kev Martin on May 06, 2011, 03:56:36 pm
The very first thing to find out is exactly what sort of paint it is.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marble Life Ltd
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: drive surgeon on May 06, 2011, 04:24:35 pm
do the scaffold companys just come out and set it up for you? and pick it up when you finish the work?
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: gutterman on May 06, 2011, 04:27:06 pm
Drive Surgeon- these jobs if not carried out correctly could be costly- windows doors etc need to be covered as acid run off could alter apperance of  frames eg upvc.

Need to consider if the paint is hiding any issues- could be more than one layer-

 Consideration to neighbouring properties is something you will have to take into account when pricing.

regards
Billy
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: drive surgeon on May 06, 2011, 04:33:19 pm
thanks billy. i think i might be best watching someone do a job rather than take it on myself. how do you apply the strippers etc with a brush?
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: Matt Gibson on May 06, 2011, 06:21:21 pm
Any scaff company will just come out and set up the scaffold, they charge per time limit, just give them a call and see what they say. I forgot to mention the windows being covered. if the windows are UPVC then most paint removal chems will turn them yellow if there is contact.

The neighbours properties are kept clean using the method with tarps i mentioned.

As for whats underneath, we tell all the clients that its a lottery as if they erent the ppl who painted it, neither you or the owner know what your going to find, but most ppl just want it off to rectify any problems or just for cosmetic purposes.

you just paint the chemicals on, let them dwell, time depends on thickness, etc.. make sure you wear the proper kit.

hot water pressure off, the hot water helps lift the paint after its been chemmed

where is the job?
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: Jamie Pearson on May 07, 2011, 12:39:19 pm
Is a media injector not worth considering?
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: BDCS on May 07, 2011, 02:58:32 pm
That'll confuse the issue  ;)
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: garry22 on May 07, 2011, 05:30:12 pm
I do not know where your job is but call Darren at this site...

http://www.protinus.co.uk/masonry-brick-and-stone-wall-cleaning.htm
Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
Post by: Matt Gibson on May 07, 2011, 07:01:46 pm
Can we have close up photos of the brick after its been shot blasted?

I know soda blasting is more subtle (so dont start on me!)

Chemical cleaning of bricks is the bestway to get the bricks clean without damaging them IMO

Same with paint removal, although jaespray has some funky machine that willstrip the paint (some very good kit from what ive seen) without damaging the substrate. But it needs to be 100% dry to work properly.

Title: Re: paint removal & brick cleaning
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