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Title: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Scrimble on May 05, 2011, 09:10:44 pm
went to look at 2 vauxhall combo vans today, both overpriced rubbish with problems and covered with dents,

all i want is a clean fairly priced white 2000 model 1.7 combo van with side door and aircon, how hard can it be??
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on May 05, 2011, 09:14:42 pm
went to look at 2 vauxhall combo vans today, both overpriced rubbish with problems and covered with dents,

all i want is a clean fairly priced white 2000 model 1.7 combo van with side door and aircon, how hard can it be??

It's always hard when you want one mate!

There's always loads of good ones when you don't though! :)

Have you considered a Fiat Doblo?
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Dean Taberner on May 05, 2011, 09:19:09 pm
I bet nobody dares to come on here and spurt out the old line "my van is decent" line.

The last time I mentioned about a van of mine earning its value 10x over it died the same week.

Dean.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: P @ F on May 05, 2011, 09:39:57 pm
Wheres Gav Cam Renault when you need him  ;D

Rich
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Frankybadboy on May 05, 2011, 09:58:54 pm
Wheres Gav Cam Renault when you need him  ;D

Rich
in the garage where do you think.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Mike_G on May 05, 2011, 10:00:19 pm
Because so many new vans are not owned by the drivers, they are company vehicles,  I actually did look after the company van I used to have but not too many do and thats why finding a good secondhand one is not easy.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Wc Solutions on May 05, 2011, 10:01:41 pm
can get lucky at the auctions??

bt vans etc ...

they norm 3 yr lease from new and then go to auction
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: rz on May 05, 2011, 10:02:05 pm
you need to look at other vans aswell,
 
doblo, berlingo,connect,

a 2000, 1.7 combo with side door does,nt exist., 51 on for a side door.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: DavidWright76 on May 06, 2011, 07:13:41 am
I'd rather save up the extra dough and get a newer and more common van. (Easy to get parts.) An 11 year old van tends to be a high milage, rust bucket with all kinds of problems. I bought a 1998 Fiat Scudovan with 120,000 miles on the clock a few years back and the engine, gearbox & shafts fell out of it within 3 weeks.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Londoner on May 06, 2011, 07:26:07 am
For heaven's sake!  Just buy a new van and stop messing about. The payments on my new van when I bought it were £35 a week, can anyone tell me they can't afford that? Thats straight HP no baloon payments or rubbish like that at the end. It was cheaper than leasing by a good way as well.

And they threw in metallic paint, aircon and a side door free.

 Its in its fourth year now and hasn't had as much as a light bulb replaced. Still on the original tyres and brake pads
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Frankybadboy on May 06, 2011, 07:35:32 am
For heaven's sake!  Just buy a new van and stop messing about. The payments on my new van when I bought it were £35 a week, can anyone tell me they can't afford that? Thats straight HP no baloon payments or rubbish like that at the end. It was cheaper than leasing by a good way as well.

And they threw in metallic paint, aircon and a side door free.

 Its in its fourth year now and hasn't had as much as a light bulb replaced. Still on the original tyres and brake pads
have you done any work yet vince ;D ;)
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 06, 2011, 08:02:20 am
For heaven's sake!  Just buy a new van and stop messing about. The payments on my new van when I bought it were £35 a week, can anyone tell me they can't afford that? Thats straight HP no baloon payments or rubbish like that at the end. It was cheaper than leasing by a good way as well.

And they threw in metallic paint, aircon and a side door free.

 Its in its fourth year now and hasn't had as much as a light bulb replaced. Still on the original tyres and brake pads

Agreed Vince - mind you my van is now 4 and a half years old; 26K and just started on it's third set of tyres as of yesterday.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Tom White on May 06, 2011, 09:11:26 am
Not everyone can get credit!  I reckon, since my messy divorce 10 years ago, I could get credit now - more than six years have elapsed since I was naughty - but for many many years I couldn't.

Alarm bells would flash and sirens would sound when I submitted a credit application.   ;D
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: gto on May 06, 2011, 09:22:15 am
your also looking for a van with air con at the beggining of summer, prices are a lot more now.

i was looking for a vw caddy with air con there where loads around £3500 - £4000 by the time i had the money together it was april and they where rare and all over £5000 +vat
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Spruce on May 06, 2011, 09:31:28 am
For heaven's sake!  Just buy a new van and stop messing about. The payments on my new van when I bought it were £35 a week, can anyone tell me they can't afford that? Thats straight HP no baloon payments or rubbish like that at the end. It was cheaper than leasing by a good way as well.

And they threw in metallic paint, aircon and a side door free.

 Its in its fourth year now and hasn't had as much as a light bulb replaced. Still on the original tyres and brake pads

Agreed Vince - mind you my van is now 4 and a half years old; 26K and just started on it's third set of tyres as of yesterday.

Trouble is, most vans were never fitted with aircon as standard around 2000, so the chances of finding one are very remote as it would have been a special order and factory built.

Again, most vans of 11 years old will have high mileages and be battered about. The good ones will be snapped up privately and most will never go to the 'trade' or be advertised.

Vince is right. Better a newer van, ex demo or the like. Running an old van will usually guarantee expensive repairs - better to spent that money on financing a newer van IMHO.

But as Tosh reminds us, if financing is not an option, save like mad and keep looking. When you are in a rush to find something, you never can.
 
Spruce
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Scrimble on May 06, 2011, 10:22:33 am
sorry i didnt make it clear, when i put vauxhall combo 2000 this relates to the model not the year, the 2000 means its the higher payload model and has a 750kg payload, i'm looking for a 2005/2006 van so about 5 years old,

i actually have a  05 vauxhall combo 2000 model in pristine condition with aircon and side door at the moment however its a 1.4 16v lpg and when its loaded up it really struggles and after test driving a 1.7cdti 100bhp combo i defo bought the wrong van to begin with thats why i want to change,

i would love a new van but atm i owe nothing on mine and dont fancy paying out 200+ quid a month for years just to drive round in a new one not that i could get the credit anyway

Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: KLEENAWAY on May 06, 2011, 11:09:17 am
Might be a load of rubbish StarM but have you not looked at an ECU remap. Not sure what its like for engines running on lpg but i know they get very good results on diesel engines like increased mpg and torque for a few hundred quid.....just an idea mate.

Danny
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Scrimble on May 10, 2011, 04:59:19 pm
sod it i've sorted out a new one at vauxhall dealer down the road,

makes more sense to buy new and keep it for a good while so thats what im doing!
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: AC Window Cleaning on May 10, 2011, 05:30:49 pm
For heaven's sake!  Just buy a new van and stop messing about. The payments on my new van when I bought it were £35 a week, can anyone tell me they can't afford that? Thats straight HP no baloon payments or rubbish like that at the end. It was cheaper than leasing by a good way as well.

And they threw in metallic paint, aircon and a side door free.

 Its in its fourth year now and hasn't had as much as a light bulb replaced. Still on the original tyres and brake pads
what van was that mate? and where from??
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Rogue Trader on May 10, 2011, 09:53:58 pm
If you want a cheap and decent workhorse van that wont let you down then buy my one in the buy and sell section Fiat scudo hold more water than the combo no ac though im afraid , although its not that many days of the year that you need it in this country.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Londoner on May 10, 2011, 10:10:30 pm
For heaven's sake!  Just buy a new van and stop messing about. The payments on my new van when I bought it were £35 a week, can anyone tell me they can't afford that? Thats straight HP no baloon payments or rubbish like that at the end. It was cheaper than leasing by a good way as well.

And they threw in metallic paint, aircon and a side door free.

 Its in its fourth year now and hasn't had as much as a light bulb replaced. Still on the original tyres and brake pads
what van was that mate? and where from??

Its a Peugeot Partner van and I bought it from my local dealer. I walked in and just asked for some numbers and it soon became clear that the deal they were offering worked out better than a late secondhand van and they were willing to throw in the extras so that clinched it. Went to Fiat and they were better if anything but I tossed up in my mind and went with the Peugot. Ford were doing good deals on the basic tranny as well.
Second hand vans are such a liability, some of the vans on offer were just high risk. Been there done all that, life is too short. The day you drive that new van out of the showroom you know you have done the right thing.
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on May 10, 2011, 10:12:55 pm
i got a cracking little vauxhall combo 1.7 di 2002 76k on a cat d due to paint damage and got it for 1400

absolutely great van air con etc...

love it
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: Scrimble on May 11, 2011, 11:59:51 am
If you want a cheap and decent workhorse van that wont let you down then buy my one in the buy and sell section Fiat scudo hold more water than the combo no ac though im afraid , although its not that many days of the year that you need it in this country.

thanks for the offer but since having air con in my van i couldnt do without it, i only have a 350l tank and i've never drained it on a full day so dont need to carry the extra water,

i shall be visiting the peugeot garage also find out the price of a new berlingo as i have not yet decided which van i shall be buying new yet so far looks like a combo
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: gordonswindows on May 11, 2011, 07:00:45 pm
Good used vans are just like women

All the good ones are gone and nobody gonna let them go

But

When u do find one that looks to good to be true it usually is and so are the vans
Title: Re: vans why is it so hard to find a decent one?
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on May 11, 2011, 07:14:06 pm
If you want a cheap and decent workhorse van that wont let you down then buy my one in the buy and sell section Fiat scudo hold more water than the combo no ac though im afraid , although its not that many days of the year that you need it in this country.

thanks for the offer but since having air con in my van i couldnt do without it, i only have a 350l tank and i've never drained it on a full day so dont need to carry the extra water,

i shall be visiting the peugeot garage also find out the price of a new berlingo as i have not yet decided which van i shall be buying new yet so far looks like a combo

The new shape berlingos are superb. 850KG payload & three front seats on the LX model.