Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Russ Chadd on May 01, 2011, 09:04:05 pm
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Hi!
What is everyone's views on using microsplitters instead of regular pre sprays and extraction chemicals? any advise including method and ideas on brands etc would be much appreciated.
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I find that used properly, i.e. pre-sprayed, agitated and left to dwell for long enough, M/S is my number one choice. However, there are certain situations where I find that M/S is not enough....This is where "Soluboost" comes in to play, added to my strong mixed of M Power....
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Thanks for that !
What do you think of this stuff?
http://http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/microsplitters-cid-67-1.html
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these were my first venture into microsplitters, however now solutions hd is my preferred choice.
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Thanks!
So are you using the Solutions HD as a pre spray and then simply rinsing with fresh water? hot or cold?
Anyone else?
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although i am not a massive fan of M/S i do thiink solutions products are the best of the bunch. i haven tried this powdered ms that solutions do buthave heard good things about it .
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Although m power is my preferred Solutions product I do use HD quite a lot on say really dirty syntethics etc. Spray, agitate, this is important even if you are using only a carpet brush and rinse.I prefer hot water but have used cold on many occasions when no hot was available and could not see any difference in the end result. Perhaps drying times might be marginally faster with hot water but if you are using a good extraction machine drying times should not be a big issue.
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Thanks!
So are you using the Solutions HD as a pre spray and then simply rinsing with fresh water? hot or cold?
Anyone else?
Same as Fintan to be honest.....
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Thanks guys
So now i am on the "World of clean" website and im looking at 3 choices..
Solution Standard MS
Solution HD MS
Solution wools safe MS
Wonder why the standard is more than the HD??
I currently use a range of Prochem chemicals:
Multi Pro to pre spray mainly... how would in terms of performance would this compare??
Cheers ???
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Hi Guys
I use Prochem Pureclean which is the 'microsplitter' chemical.
You can then adjust your concentration as required.
These days I tend to use Powerburst, Formula 90 and Ultrapac plus a few others with Pureclean mainly on upholstery.
Cheers
Doug
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Cheers Doug
Are you truck mount or portable?
Russ
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Hi Russ
TM, portable now and again for upholstery .
Cheers
Doug
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We did an end of tenancy job last week, same synthetic carpet throughout and having bought the Solutions trial pack, thought we would have a go.
We first used Fusion 8 - hot, agitated and fresh water rinsed and it looked okay but the traffic areas were not great. We then re sprayed with HD - same method and it still didn't look great, so we made up some Powerburst and we started to see a difference within a minute of agitating it into the pile. The difference after rinsing was huge.
I appreciate that the microsplitters had done most of the work but they couldn't match the power of the big guns. We are going to play about with them however as we have not tried them with boosters. and having read some other posts, there is lots that can be done.
I do find Chemspec DFC to be the best that I have tried so far though.
Linds
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::)I personally dont see how any microsplitter products can beat whats already out there,is it just a way to be a so called green cleaner! perhaps im missing something
Gary Bristowclean
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perhaps you are..............
have you actually tried microsplitters ???
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I have tried several microsplitters but am not impressed with any other than pure clean. Powerburst is my main prespray but I do use pure clean in some situations.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com (http://www.carpetcleanercardiff.com)
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and where can I find these Microsplitters? I would like to give them a try :)
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Various and numerous suppliers will sell microspliters.
Amtech, Restormate, Solutions Cornwall, Cleansmart just to name a few for starters.
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Using nemesis at the mo fom restormate russ.
I also do use solutions hd on some real bad jobs as a back up.
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I'm now using solutions SPM as i find it better than PC pureclean
regards
Daryl
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yes hector i have but i cant see any improvement ,so do they clean carpets better than normal quality chems?
Gary Bristowclean
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Yes Gary, just as good if not better, but they do take a bit of getting used to, to get the dilution rate, dwell time etc right.
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Hector
In your experience what are the best dilutions and dwell times for say a lightly soiled PP, a heavily soiled looped wool or a average soiled cut pile 80/20?
Chris
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I'm trialing SPM from solutions at the moment and to be fair i'm getting some good results! but i was cleaning a night club carpet yesterday and the spm was good but just wasn't quite good enough! So i had to pull out the hydramaster blitz and use that on the rest of the carpet! come up like a dream! ;D
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Using nemesis at the mo fom restormate russ.
I also do use solutions hd on some real bad jobs as a back up.
i didnt realise nemsis was a micro splitter !! must take more notice of what i,m actualy using ;) as for m/s i tend to use when cleaning suites, and having used most on the market I find Craftex from restormate to be the best value as i do not believe a noticable differnce can be seen with any of them, be honest and a tweek of any of the cleaning pie procces would make a diiference to the results any way. All i can say is some of you guys really who can see a difference have bloody good eye sight ;)
geoff.
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has anybody actualy compared m/s side by side, same temp,material,soiling,pressure aggitation ,dwell etc etc.
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Using nemesis at the mo fom restormate russ.
I also do use solutions hd on some real bad jobs as a back up.
i didnt realise nemsis was a micro splitter !! must take more notice of what i,m actualy using ;) as for m/s i tend to use when cleaning suites, and having used most on the market I find Craftex from restormate to be the best value as i do not believe a noticable differnce can be seen with any of them, be honest and a tweek of any of the cleaning pie procces would make a diiference to the results any way. All i can say is some of you guys really who can see a difference have bloody good eye sight ;)
geoff.
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has anybody actualy compared m/s side by side, same temp,material,soiling,pressure aggitation ,dwell etc etc.
it would appear njot then !!! just reasures my thoughts that they are all as good as each other :-\
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has anybody actualy compared m/s side by side, same temp,material,soiling,pressure aggitation ,dwell etc etc.
But how would you do that outside lab' conditions?
You would need to make sure you put EXACTLY the same dirt in the same density evenly across various carpet all having exactly the same age/wear/tear etc etc.
I'm not saying it can't be done but do any of us have the time or inclination to do this. if somebody could, the information would be invaluable because it would be a users review and not that of one manufacturer over another.
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has anybody actualy compared m/s side by side, same temp,material,soiling,pressure aggitation ,dwell etc etc.
But how would you do that outside lab' conditions?
You would need to make sure you put EXACTLY the same dirt in the same density evenly across various carpet all having exactly the same age/wear/tear etc etc.
I'm not saying it can't be done but do any of us have the time or inclination to do this. if somebody could, the information would be invaluable because it would be a users review and not that of one manufacturer over another.
My point exactly Neil, so how do these people who claim 1 m/s is better than another come to that conclusion ,because i Cant tell no marked differece in any of them, so my conclusion is simple.go for the best value and untill some body proves otherwise i will stick to this or is their infact the placebo effect kicking in here ?
Geoff
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I've not tried powerburst but see that a number of you recommend it. Do you use it on domestic carpet as well as commercial? Synthetic only?
I see prochem only suggest commercial , greasy restaurants etc....
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Hi Peter
True it is recommended as you describe but a minger is a minger! so it can be used provided you rinse well with an acidc rinse (like fibre & fabric rinse) to stabilise the Ph. Try not over apply to avoid browning or damaging the fibre, wool will retain a lot of moisture so it's quite easy to keep away from the backing but as I said rinse well. Keep temp to around 50C but mix well in a small amount of hot water to ensure it's dissolved. I only use it as a last resort but find Pre spray gold or DFC 105 from chemspec do an excellent job as do most of the other products mentioned earlier.