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Title: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: poole bay on April 30, 2011, 09:42:24 pm
Just added paypal to website had my first payment of £15 and they took 71p of fees so every house I do they take nearly a pound  ???
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Crystal-clear on April 30, 2011, 09:44:15 pm
nah its 3.6% and 20p or something like that , i do think its a bit high but i guess it could be worse  ,
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: mci services on April 30, 2011, 09:49:15 pm
how much would it cost in fuel to collect, or to bank a cheque? and now all you have to do is transfer it to your account with no fees. works for me, one time bad payers with constant chasing for money have become good online payers
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Smudger on April 30, 2011, 09:53:23 pm
Nobody works for nowt

did you read the T&C's ?


Darran
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: poole bay on April 30, 2011, 10:15:33 pm
Nar 71p they charged me iv now got£14.29 and in the fee bit it's saying 71p not happy lol
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: mci services on April 30, 2011, 10:22:38 pm
did you think they would provide this service for free ;D
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on April 30, 2011, 10:47:48 pm
if you dont like it put a customer paypal paying charge on top, like cinemas and such like do.
say 50p to £1?

everyone seems to do that why not us?
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on April 30, 2011, 11:52:21 pm
Dont go for a virtual terminal with them then, they hold 50% of your daily takings for 60 days before they release it to your account
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: H S and Son on May 01, 2011, 12:30:52 am
did you think they would provide this service for free ;D


What he said. Why on earth would PayPal provide a banking service and not make anything from it?
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Spruce on May 01, 2011, 07:07:10 am
The 71 pence is also a tax deductable expense.
Spruce
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Erithwc on May 01, 2011, 07:58:34 am
the way i look at it is it would cost me more money to drive round wasting time colleting money,
i love it i send all my paypal invoices while having a cup of tea.

Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: LWC on May 01, 2011, 08:13:47 am
And you can send money requests and reminders. Usually gives them a bump. I think maybe it is a little high but certainly worth it when as said before you take out petrol and bank charges for cheques or an envelope with stamp!
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Post by: Sean Dyer on May 01, 2011, 09:03:32 am
200 custys at 71p is a bit though isnt it £142, wouldnt cost that in fuel to knock them doors after work!!!
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: dazmond on May 01, 2011, 09:17:11 am
why dont you just offer bank transfers instead.its free!! ;) ;D ;D

SAE for cheques and collecting for compact local work.works for me.

most customers and new customers dont want to pay online and prefer cash/cheques on my round.

with all the stories of computer hacking and stuff a lot of people are wary of electronic payments in my experience.maybe its because a lot of my customers are in their 50s-60s.quite a few are the wealthy retired and pay when i clean or send a cheque.

one or two pay by BACS but its only a few.


regards


dazmond
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: LWC on May 01, 2011, 09:35:22 am
200 custys at 71p is a bit though isnt it £142, wouldnt cost that in fuel to knock them doors after work!!!

Thats really not a bad point to be fair. Only thing is not that many people use it, ive probably got about 30 a month out of all my rounds.
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Post by: davids3511 on May 01, 2011, 09:39:12 am
Look into paypal micro payments. The fees are tweaked a bit for smaller payments.
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: groundhog on May 01, 2011, 10:08:47 am
200 custys at 71p is a bit though isnt it £142

Agreed!! its a complete rip off!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:(
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Post by: Helen on May 01, 2011, 10:28:15 am
200 custys at 71p is a bit though isnt it £142

Agreed!! its a complete rip off!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:(

200 customers at £15 each = £3000.00
Pay pal £142 tax deductable

Would still get them to pay direct to bank though, but some won't and if they want to use paypal tell them there is a 3.5% charge to do so!
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Perfect Windows on May 01, 2011, 10:42:58 am
So. 71p to avoid collecting from a customer.  That's 4.7%, or just under 1/20th.

Thus, if a typical £15 job takes 20 minutes, then if collecting takes more than one minute, you're better off moving on to the next house and doing another clean.  In my experience, collecting takes people a damned sight more than a minute to do, so you're goint to be much better off if you use PayPal than not.  I love customers who ask me to leave them a slip to pay online rather than fumbling about for two minutes finding change or writing a cheque.

Vin
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Perfect Windows on May 01, 2011, 10:45:25 am
Just added paypal to website had my first payment of £15 and they took 71p of fees so every house I do they take nearly a pound  ???

Also, when did 71p get rounded off to a pound unless it's in the mind of someone trying to make a point?  Why not round it down to 50p?  Much nearer!

Vin
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Scrimble on May 01, 2011, 11:27:01 am
paypal is for mugs, do a search on paypal on google thousands of businesses have been ripped off by them, they will one day freeze your account with no reason and wont give you the money back for 180 days,

avoid paypal at all costs, you do NOT need paypal your bank provides the same service for free

I only accept bank transfers (free), cheques (free) and cash (obviously free) i do however provide business reply plus envelopes so custys dont pay for the postage  and the last month direct debit for them was under 6 quid month before was even less, i have saved plenty on fuel as i no longer collect.

do not let some big company or bank or whoever have its slice of your hard work
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Pope vader on May 01, 2011, 11:35:54 am
i would love all my custy to pay online, and then i can use the time i would of spent knocking, and it can be a few hours a week, getting more custys,

plus if only a few pay online, it is a great way to save as i very rarely send it to my bank
Title: Re: Paypal rip off!!!!!
Post by: Perfect Windows on May 01, 2011, 04:07:41 pm
paypal is for mugs, do a search on paypal on google thousands of businesses have been ripped off by them, they will one day freeze your account with no reason and wont give you the money back for 180 days,

avoid paypal at all costs, you do NOT need paypal your bank provides the same service for free

I love the internet.  Thousands of businesses who've been ripped off "for no reason".  Oddly it's never happened to me or to anyone I know (or even friends of friends).

As for "your bank provides the same service for free", do you really get credit card payments for free from your bank?  Please let me know where you bank and I'll change immediately.

Vin