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Title: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 02, 2005, 04:12:43 pm
Hi,

Just wanted to let you all know about my new Auto Brush.

The link for the brush is at
http://www.window-tools.com/auto.htm

I will have better quality video clips in the near future.

Peter Fogwill
http://www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: windows_chepstow on October 02, 2005, 04:53:35 pm
Peter,

That looks really smart.  I'd heard you had a new brush out on Matt's DIY site that was meant to be 'cool' (quote taken from the author).

I've just ordered a Shurflo back-pack.  Would it be suitable for that?

Also, being a non-WF Poler at present (and a Geordie); don't you have to rinse the window by removing the brush from the glass in some circumstances?

Can you still do this, or don't you have to?
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: matt on October 02, 2005, 05:15:41 pm
i will answer for Peter here, hope you dont mind peter :)

YES the new brush will work with your new backpack, INFACT its ideal, as it will save you more water :) thus not having to refill the backpack so often ;)
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 02, 2005, 05:24:35 pm
Hi Tosh,

You shouldn't have to rinse by removing the brush from the window on regularly cleaned windows.  I know I didn't have to, maybe something to do with the type of brush, but I don't know for sure.

You will be able to rinse with only the bottom bristles of the  brush on the glass, and the spray fan above them, by slightly changing the angle of the brush.  A pull cord could also be fitted to allow rinsing on really dirty windows that require the brush be removed from the glass.  I also have a couple of variations of the same type of brush, but I am concentrating on this one at the moment, which I think will be more beneficial to most users.

It may not do for 100% of all windows, but the high percentage of windows it will be good for, you should see a significant water saving, and some time saving as well.

Shortly you will be able to use it on any brush, but for the time being I will only be selling the set- up already fitted on to my brushes.  My brush fits on most poles, not sure about the Omni Power Pole though.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: windows_chepstow on October 02, 2005, 05:37:07 pm
Is this brush easy to connect to a Shurflo back-pack, remembering my DIY skills are as good as my Arabic (Inch Allah - that's it - probably spelt wrong too)?

I'm guessing that there must be some 'communication' between the brush head and the pump?  And is that complicated to set up?

Sorry if this is a bone question.  But I can't imagine how the pump knows how to stop or switch off when the brush is taken from a window.
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 02, 2005, 05:49:22 pm
Its more to do with the brush fitting on the pole.  The brush would come on a standard angle joint, and is connected to the pole in this way.

This version of the Auto Brush is worked with a valve, when the valve is closed the water stops, when the valve is open the water sprays.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: matt on October 02, 2005, 06:10:59 pm
peter

would this not cause problems with the pumps switch cycling on and off ?? ? ??

it does look well smart and a cracking idea, nice to see inventors trying to push the idea forward
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 02, 2005, 06:40:32 pm
peter

would this not cause problems with the pumps switch cycling on and off ?? ? ??

it does look well smart and a cracking idea, nice to see inventors trying to push the idea forward

I can't comment on other pumps, but the Shurflo is no problem whatsoever.  When the water stops, the pump will stop as well.  Even with a bypass fitted the pump will stop if the bypass is closed off, when the bypass is opened the water will simply circulate. 

Like any system you don't want the pump running intermittently, if it does with a bypass open very slightly, you would just adjust it accordingly.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: windows_chepstow on October 02, 2005, 07:36:58 pm
Peter,

I'll soon be receiving the shurflo back-pack.  I'm not sure if this is the same as the shurflo pumps they sell, as I think shurflo are just the distributors for the back-pack; so I'm not sure if they'll be compatible with your brush.

However, you always get an excellent press on this site.

I'm after a brush and a pole suitable to clean mostly 1st floor windows with the capability to clean 2nd floor (we'll be doing ground floor traditionally).

I'm on a budget but can spend around £150 on a pole and brush.  Have you anything to suit our requirements within this price bracket?

I've had a look round your site, but can't see anything.
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 02, 2005, 07:49:54 pm
Tosh,

The Auto Brush won't be ready for the market for two weeks, I don't know if you can wait that long.  I would be able to do an Auto Brush and pole for that sort of money.
 

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: windows_chepstow on October 03, 2005, 08:38:10 am
Peter, I can wait mate.

It'll take me that long to get my RO and water storage etc.

I've waited long enough to start getting set-up, so another two weeks is no problem.

Will send you an e-mail.

Good luck with the new brush.

Regards,

Tosh.
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Ian_Giles on October 03, 2005, 10:04:01 am
Hi Peter,

As you know I have one of your systems, and I am also really interested in your new brush setup.
I haven't looked at in in great detail as yet, but is the brush on the video a slightly smaller one than the one I would have?
Or I should say, can you also do a smaller brush head?

I mean't to ask you that when I spoke to you on the phone while I was order the parts I bought off you.

Tosh,

Anytime you wish to see the inside of my pump box, and the way that Peter connects up the pump you are more than welcome.

As I said somewhere else on here ??? 18 months now of daily use and the pump is working just fine.

Time to get back earnin' I dressed in the dark this morning...not a good idea, when it got light my tee shirt looked like something you would use to wipe down an oily engine with :-\

So nice clean tee shirt now on, and it's back to work I go 8)

Regards,

Ian
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 03, 2005, 10:30:29 am
Hi Ian,

Yes the brush on the video is a 12", yours is a 15", I also do a 9" it works with all of them.

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Ian_Giles on October 03, 2005, 06:08:05 pm
Excellent new Peter!

I'll be in touch very shortly....well about two weeks, since that is when you are going to have them available!! ;D

regards

Ian
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: rosskesava on October 03, 2005, 07:59:15 pm
Hi

I'm also interested as the brush we're using at present ( which wasn't exactly cheap) is hopeless for some jobs.

Problem is I can't get the video to play. I downloaded the plug in, all 32Mb of it, and it still soesn't play.

Cheers
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Sarah Sarill on October 03, 2005, 08:06:02 pm
I'm having the same problem viewing the video too and have even tried through links posted elsewhere without any success.

Sarah
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 03, 2005, 08:09:09 pm
Peter - I've had your trolley system for the past nine months (its more than paid for itself already) - can I use the new auto brush with it?

MalcG
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Paul Coleman on October 04, 2005, 07:27:38 pm
Hi,

Just wanted to let you all know about my new Auto Brush.

The link for the brush is at
http://www.window-tools.com/auto.htm

I will have better quality video clips in the near future.

Peter Fogwill
http://www.window-tools.com

Peter.  That looks like a gem of an idea.  I hope it catches on and you do well from it.
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 04, 2005, 09:27:26 pm
Hi

I'm also interested as the brush we're using at present ( which wasn't exactly cheap) is hopeless for some jobs.

Problem is I can't get the video to play. I downloaded the plug in, all 32Mb of it, and it still soesn't play.

Cheers

I will try and do another couple of better clips tommorow, and see if they work for you.

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 04, 2005, 09:29:05 pm
Peter - I've had your trolley system for the past nine months (its more than paid for itself already) - can I use the new auto brush with it?

MalcG

Yes you can Malc.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: rosskesava on October 04, 2005, 09:44:43 pm
Quote
I will try and do another couple of better clips tommorow, and see if they work for you.

Cheers Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: john meehan on October 05, 2005, 07:12:03 pm
rosskesava what do you have written on the sides and back windows of your hearse reply would be nice hearse is a real head turner thinking of getting one great advertisement thanks john
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 05, 2005, 08:01:46 pm
rosskesava what do you have written on the sides and back windows of your hearse reply would be nice hearse is a real head turner thinking of getting one great advertisement thanks john


On one side it says: Oi Missus! 'Ave yer winders done by us - it'll be your funeral if you don't!"
On the other side: "The last customer who didn't pay is in the back!"
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: rosskesava on October 05, 2005, 08:23:55 pm
It just says 'window cleaners' then its says 'who you gonna call' and on the bottom right is our freephone number. On the tubing for our poles it says 'we also do internals'.

I wanted to have 'we're overpriced', 'we do a bad job anyway' and 'who needs clean windows?' I also wanted to buy a second hand fire engine but was out voted.

If you're going to buy a hearse you need to have a sense of the theatrical otherwise it don't work. There was another w/c around here who used a hearse for a while but he couldn't pull it off. We all love it and we're now trying to work out how to put a manikin on the roof.

Anyway..... sorry Mr Moderator. That was off topic.  ::)
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: windows_chepstow on October 05, 2005, 09:05:27 pm
Thanks Peter Fogwill,  I've just been given the pole and brush I ordered from you from a neighbor.

I've been out in the street playing with it just now - and it seems a lot easier than carting a set of ladders about - but I think I'll need Ian_Giles to show me how it all goes together and where to wash first.

Brilliant service, mate.  I only stuck the cheque in the post today.

Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Ian_Giles on October 05, 2005, 09:27:41 pm
No problemo dude ;)

See you tomorrow, thisty already :P

Ian
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: rosskesava on October 05, 2005, 09:33:11 pm
I can't get the video to play from the link.  :-[

Please Mr very nice and very fair Moderators, what does it do and is it worth the money?

Cheers
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 05, 2005, 09:55:48 pm
I know I said I would do another couple of video's for today, but I never had the time.  I will try and get them done for tomorrow.

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: rosskesava on October 05, 2005, 10:09:26 pm
Hi Peter

I think the video link not working is a subtle sales technique of yours.

I'm even more interested now.

Cheers
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: brett walker on October 05, 2005, 10:41:51 pm
Hi Peter

Any idea when you will be releasing a price on the pole and brush, looks excellent

regads

Brett
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 22, 2005, 02:50:51 pm
Auto Brush

Hi,

Just wanted to let you all know about my new Auto Brush.

The link for the brush is at
http://www.window-tools.com/auto.htm

I will have better quality video clips in the near future.

Peter Fogwill
http://www.window-tools.com

Sorry for the delay in the new Autobrush.  Due to popular demand, and the fact that a large No. of people rinse separately after brushing the window, I had to completely redesign the brush to accommodate this. 

I now have a product which completely controls the flow of water on the brush head, and will pump water whether the brush is on the glass or not.  The water will flow or stop only when you want it to.  The water saving should be quite significant, as the only time you are using water is when you are cleaning the window.  When moving the pole from window to window, or lowering or heighting the pole, or walking back and forth to the van, the water has stopped.

Depending on your pump set-up you should also see a reduction on battery consumption as in most cases the pump will stop when the water stops.

Apart from the above advantages there is also a big bonus for those of you who use two poles from the one pump.  Before you switched the pump on and the water would flow through the two brushes at once, whether you were cleaning a window or not.  It meant you always had 50% of the total amount of water that the pump could supply at any given time.  Now with having Autobrushes in use you can time it so that you can be rinsing as the other operative is moving to the next window, this way you have the full pressure available to rinse separately if needed.

There is also a safety element, I have in the past seen window cleaners rushing around when lowering poles, or moving from window to window, especially when there is obstacles in their way.  They are doing this to avoid too much water wastage as the water is flowing from the brush as they are trying to get to the next window- sound familiar?  With the Autobrush you are much more relaxed, as you are not wasting water when the brush is not on the glass.

The price for the Salmon brush complete with the necessary attachments to turn the water on and off will be £69.00 complete, price may change in the near future.  This is fitted with a metal angle joint, and two spray jets.

Orders can be taken now for early next week delivery.

If you need any more information please let me know,

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 22, 2005, 06:13:13 pm

Sorry for the delay in the new Autobrush.  Due to popular demand, and the fact that a large No. of people rinse separately after brushing the window, I had to completely redesign the brush to accommodate this. 

I now have a product which completely controls the flow of water on the brush head, and will pump water whether the brush is on the glass or not.  The water will flow or stop only when you want it to.  The water saving should be quite significant, as the only time you are using water is when you are cleaning the window.  When moving the pole from window to window, or lowering or heighting the pole, or walking back and forth to the van, the water has stopped.

If you need any more information please let me know,

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Hi Peter

Q1 How do you keep the water flowing  when you pull the brush away from the window a little to rinse?

Q2 Are there brush size options? (The salmon that came with the system was too large for my taste and I changed to a vikan 10".)

Thanks Malc

Convince me Peter - I want to buy one if I believe it will work properly.
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: poles apart on November 22, 2005, 06:48:47 pm
I want to buy one too but your not answering your phones! ::)
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 22, 2005, 08:31:51 pm
Malc, he doesnt need to sell this, it will sell itself. It works and its simple. It could be removed from the Salmon (once you see how its fitted )and adapted to any brush in about 15 min - if it  fits mine it will fit anyones. Its an impressive step forward just when I thought there was nothing new about. Buy one or three !
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: stevef on November 22, 2005, 08:40:07 pm
Hi Peter
Will you be producing a kit to convert existing brushes in the future ?
just a thought

Steve
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 22, 2005, 09:17:15 pm


Hi Peter

Q1 How do you keep the water flowing  when you pull the brush away from the window a little to rinse?

Q2 Are there brush size options? (The salmon that came with the system was too large for my taste and I changed to a vikan 10".)

Thanks Malc

Convince me Peter - I want to buy one if I believe it will work properly.

The rinsing is not hampered in any way, it is now completely different from the video clips on my web site.  I didn't get round to redoing the video clips because I had to redo the whole thing because people wanted to rinse separately.

I have a 12" brush and a 9" brush.

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 22, 2005, 09:20:11 pm
I want to buy one too but your not answering your phones! ::)

Did you try my mobile, 07751 964 450, I wasn't available for a while tonight I had a meeting at the school.  I will be available all day tomorrow.  If I am not on the land-line I will be on the mobile.

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 22, 2005, 09:23:17 pm
Hi Peter
Will you be producing a kit to convert existing brushes in the future ?
just a thought

Steve

Yes I will be getting a hold of the Vikan brushes soon to make up a kit for them.  If anyone was interested in sending me any brush I could fit a unit on it for them, and send it back all ready to go.

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on December 02, 2005, 04:12:27 pm
My new brush can now be seen in operation at http://www.window-tools.com/auto.htm
There is two short videos.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 02, 2005, 04:29:33 pm
So where's my brush then. Peter?
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on December 02, 2005, 04:40:00 pm
Sorry Malc, I tried to contact you, and I must have got the wrong Malc because they never got back to me.

Any chance you can give me a ring, or give me your No and I will ring you.

Peter
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 02, 2005, 05:04:09 pm
Peter - Done and dusted!
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 02, 2005, 07:45:45 pm
As you see in the video you just tap the littlr lever operated brush on the left to switch the water on and then tap it on the right to switch it off
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: batterbee on December 04, 2005, 01:35:15 pm
HI PETER, I'VE BEEN USING THE AUTO BRUSH FOR A WEEK NOW AND IT WORKS GREAT :D REGARDS JOHN. 8)
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on December 04, 2005, 03:19:04 pm
Hi John,

Thanks for letting me know, it's appreciated.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com
Title: Re: Auto Brush
Post by: Peter Fogwill on December 05, 2005, 02:45:04 pm
Hi Peter
Will you be producing a kit to convert existing brushes in the future ?
just a thought

Steve

Yes I will be getting a hold of the Vikan brushes soon to make up a kit for them.  If anyone was interested in sending me any brush I could fit a unit on it for them, and send it back all ready to go.

Peter

The above statement still stands, but due to no external pipes on the Power Pole brush set-up, modifications would have to be made to the pipe at the top of the pole.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com