Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MJHolmes on April 21, 2011, 12:34:23 pm
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Hi all,
Just thought that id ask you all about this...What are your views on WINDYS PATCHES do you think that this is the thing of the past????????? I looked up on the internet about how window cleaning came about and what the old days where like.....
In those days they rode around on a push bike with ladders balance on there shoulder or around there neck balancing water buckets on them...The Word PATCH in them days was given because money was hard to fine and windys would give one another a street to do, helping each other bring home a wage,,,it was never like "your on my PATCH at all"
as time has gone on from these old days of window cleaning, we have become more teratourial in the areas we do and agression has become a big factor in windys getting business...the younger generation has made it this the way as it is today....But as they say you dont own anything or anyone so i say its a free for all.....i would gladly help a windy if they had say 2 customers on a street that i do. and i had 2 on a street he does so then you can make your cleaning more compact. I cant see why we cant take a look at the old days and help each other. I have 4 window cleaners on my street all doing a share.....
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i have a few "patches" where i work on my very compact stuff.im by far the dominant window cleaner in some areas with the odd window cleaner cleaning a few properties sandwiched in between a hundred or so of my accounts.ive not got a problem with them! i always wave or go and have a chat for 5 mins!a lot of my compact work is cheap but it keeps the competition at bay!
i very rarely lose work to the fringe window cleaners.most give up these accounts after a while as they cant usually make it pay as i have the estates" sewn up" so to speak.
i also have clumps of work and a few stand alones sandwiched in between a load of other guys work but these are usually bigger accounts and are still worth it as these tend to be much better priced.
i have had other windys who pass work over simply because its too much hassle for them to do 1 account in between a load of mine as they know it wont lead to cleaning the whole street.i do the same unless its a big property.if its a small 3 bedder or terraced they can have em!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Did a quote the other day and the customer said they were happy to go ahead, but didnt want to cause any problems if it was someone else's patch.
I told them not to worry as the old patch system just doesnt exist any more.
You wouldnt see the energy companys dividing up areas would you ?
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Spot on my friend.....Its all in the past
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A distant memory thankfully.
If patches existed it would have to exist everywhere, therefore supermarkets wouldn't be able to open another store too close to another incase they upset them ;)
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Patches pmsl
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Up in grimy grim Lancashire in the old luddite towns the ghost of Stan. (you are a tosser gold) the. man. doth appear ghastly white dragging its knuckles and clinking its chains as it urinates against every lamppost marking its territory and wails the plaintive cry ...
"gerofff moi patch roight; geroff or I'll smash yer car and kick yer ladder from under you"
But the world moves on and these patch-ites fall from their ladders, die, or get duffed up by a bigger tougher patchite who gets all the £2.50 houses for himself.
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Up in grimy grim Lancashire in the old luddite towns the ghost of Stan. (you are a tosser gold) the. man. doth appear ghastly white dragging its knuckles and clinking its chains as it urinates against every lamppost marking its territory and wails the plaintive cry ...
"gerofff moi patch roight; geroff or I'll smash yer car and kick yer ladder from under you"
But the world moves on and these patch-ites fall from their ladders, die, or get duffed up by a bigger tougher patchite who gets all the £2.50 houses for himself.
stop on ;D
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Up in grimy grim Lancashire in the old luddite towns the ghost of Stan. (you are a tosser gold) the. man. doth appear ghastly white dragging its knuckles and clinking its chains as it urinates against every lamppost marking its territory and wails the plaintive cry ...
"gerofff moi patch roight; geroff or I'll smash yer car and kick yer ladder from under you"
But the world moves on and these patch-ites fall from their ladders, die, or get duffed up by a bigger tougher patchite who gets all the £2.50 houses for himself.
stop on ;D
they cant all hit those dizzy sky high bristol prices, Ive even heard stories of you not getting any change from a fiver. no wonder they say the streeets are paved in gold but thats what happens when you have that many stray dogs roaming the streets :D
and dont come any were near my patch or you'll get a thick ear >:(
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You try canvassing certain streets in Portsmouth, and tell the local window cleaner that there is no such thing as a patch anymore!!!!! ;D
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You try canvassing certain streets in Portsmouth, and tell the local window cleaner that there is no such thing as a patch anymore!!!!! ;D
ok i will!
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You try canvassing certain streets in Portsmouth, and tell the local window cleaner that there is no such thing as a patch anymore!!!!! ;D
ok i will!
Good luck mate!! I'll visit you in Hospital... do you like grapes? ;D
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i doubt that mate! why who wants a fight?
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i doubt that mate! why who wants a fight?
Not me matey, but there's some nasty pieces of work cleaning windows in certain areas of Pompey and they don't mess about if someones on their patch!!! :(
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No problem, tell them if they want a fight, im ready whenever and where ever they like! anytime anywhere its the gracie why for the last 100 years!
Regards
GB
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there some " nasty pieces of wor" as you put it everywhere and what ive found is there all whimps when it comes down to it! so as i said... Anytime anywhere. Tell them from me and if there intersted i'll arange something!
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No problem, tell them if they want a fight, im ready whenever and where ever they like! anytime anywhere its the gracie why for the last 100 years!
Regards
GB
Sorry to tell you this but they don't fight fair and roll around on a nice soft mat dressed in dressing gowns!! ;)
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now now chiefs go easy we all get the picture.
GB its my patch still defo goes on around the country, may not have happened to you or me but others certasinly have experiences of it.
its usually the doleys who try it on when a legit w/c comes on the scene but w/c companies have also been known for it.
at the end of the day its how you deal with it and the best and quickest solution is call the police, if someone broke into your house and stole your possesions you would call them so do the same if someone tries to steal your business.
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instead of typing gracie jiu jitsu into google, type it into youtube mate! ;D
we dont need mats or dressing gowns and if they dont fight fair neither do we!
oh and my thingy is bigger than yours and my daddy is harder than your daddy! ;D
and you sound like your scared of these window cleaners because your soft!?
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I remember patches being used for the benefit of wc`ers. Passing the odd job on to another when it`s easier for them to do.
Or to put off problematic customers. If a customer asks and I`ve been warned about them, I can say sorry it`s not my patch/area. I don`t say it as much now and just say I`m too busy to take on anymore jobs.
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instead of typing gracie jiu jitsu into google, type it into youtube mate! ;D
we dont need mats or dressing gowns and if they dont fight fair neither do we!
oh and my thingy is bigger than yours and my daddy is harder than your daddy! ;D
and you sound like your scared of these window cleaners because your soft!?
I wasn't trying to have a row, I was just pointing out that there is still area's that
certain window cleaners refer to as their patch, and normally they seem to be areas that most wc's wouldn't want anyway!! ??? And no I'm not afraid of them mate, I have boxed for most of my life and had over 40 amateur bouts, and still compete several times a year in semi pro fights to keep me in shape. I'm sure jiu jitsu is great, just not my cup of tea.. all that rolling around and cuddling just dosn't do it for me!!! ;)
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@ groundhog...
boxing is a very tough sport but thats all it is a sport! a punching sport at that. my uncle was a pro boxer, and i love boxiing but gracie jiu jitsu is more practical for street fighting! especially against some one bigger and stonger than you!
peace, gb
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@ groundhog...
boxing is a very tough sport but thats all it is a sport! a punching sport at that. my uncle was a pro boxer, and i love boxiing but gracie jiu jitsu is more practical for street fighting! especially against some one bigger and stonger than you!
peace, gb
Whatever!!!! Most martial arts guys believe that, but they soon change their minds when they get punched on the nose!!!! ;)
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@ groundhog...
ok, why dont we put it to the test mate? you name the time and place!!!
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@ groundhog...
ok, why dont we put it to the test mate? you name the time and place!!!
Your obsession (over many - oh, so many - posts) with threatening to use Gracie Ju Jitsu on people is strange. Every single martial art teacher I have ever met focusses heavily on trying to avoid having to use the martial art in question. Universally, they dislike people who teach martial arts as a way of winning rather than avoiding conflict. You seem to take a radically different approach of leading with it rather than trying to deflect the conflict in the first place.
I merely mention it. As I say, your obsession with the use of a martial art is unusual. True devotees sound very different from you. Sounds to me like you might have missed the point.
Vin
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i just dont tolerate bully's and threats is all.
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@ groundhog...
ok, why dont we put it to the test mate? you name the time and place!!!
Hmmm. Doesn't sound to me like you're being bullied...
Vin
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You try canvassing certain streets in Portsmouth, and tell the local window cleaner that there is no such thing as a patch anymore!!!!! ;D
ok i will!
Good luck mate!! I'll visit you in Hospital... do you like grapes? ;D
@ perfect windows... it does to me mate!
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No problem, tell them if they want a fight, im ready whenever and where ever they like! anytime anywhere its the gracie why for the last 100 years!
Regards
GB
If you go in certain parts of Liverpool then you're van and reels will also need to be good at gracie jujitsu, as its them that'll get it !!!
The patch system is very much alive in parts.
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@ groundhog...
ok, why dont we put it to the test mate? you name the time and place!!!
Your Hilarious!!! ;D ;D Proper little keyboard Ninja aren't we!!!! ;D Sorry but I don't get involved in silly School yard brawls!! But if you want to have a proper boxing bout (for charity perhaps), and you can get down to light middleweight then I'd gladly give you a bout!! :) Should be fun... but I don't do any of that rolling about on the floor stuff!!! ;)
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@ groundhog
no thanks, i dont do sports fighting, only real fighting!
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No problem, tell them if they want a fight, im ready whenever and where ever they like! anytime anywhere its the gracie why for the last 100 years!
Regards
GB
If you go in certain parts of Liverpool then you're van and reels will also need to be good at gracie jujitsu, as its them that'll get it !!!
The patch system is very much alive in parts.
then i would find out who did it (or at least try to) and they would get it!
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@ groundhog
no thanks, i dont do sports fighting, only real fighting!
Obviously a yob then!! What are you so afraid of if your so tough? Its only a boxing bout, and I'm 44 years old... surely your not going to bottle it?? ;D
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groundhog
like i said i dont do pretend fighting! boxing is not fighting its a punching sport! a REAL fight is no holds bared anything goes! but your obviously not man enough to have a REAL fight!??!
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It takes a real man to get in the ring mate... believe me!! Any can roll about on the floor in a pub, thats for cowards in my view!
Here's a vid of me boxing back in the early 90's (I'm in the red)... surely your not scared tough guy!!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7imigmnd6yM
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I like a bit of keyboard agro, but this is really fun!! You can't really be serious about having a punchup? PMSL. Two grown men are ready to meet up for a knock down fight about a thread on a forum??
I'm selling tickets next time, just let me know dates and venues. We can make a fortune here. 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I like a bit of keyboard agro, but this is really fun!! You can't really be serious about having a punchup? PMSL. Two grown men are ready to meet up for a knock down fight about a thread on a forum??
I'm selling tickets next time, just let me know dates and venues. We can make a fortune here. 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Don't worry Cozy I think its hillarious too!! He's just a keyboard Ninja trying to sound tough!! I would however give him a proper organised boxing bout, it would be good fun and we could raise some money for charity!! I need an excuse to get myself back in the gym!! :)
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I like a bit of keyboard agro, but this is really fun!! You can't really be serious about having a punchup? PMSL. Two grown men are ready to meet up for a knock down fight about a thread on a forum??
I'm selling tickets next time, just let me know dates and venues. We can make a fortune here. 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Don't worry Cozy I think its hillarious too!! He's just a keyboard Ninja trying to sound tough!! I would however give him a proper organised boxing bout, it would be good fun and we could raise some money for charity!! I need an excuse to get myself back in the gym!! :)
i real fight im up for, not a boxing match! end of friend ;D
the balls in your court.
i dont want any bad feeling against anyone on here, i think most of you are very decent hard working people!
Regards GB
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Chicken!!! ;D
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your the chicken, mr i can only fight with a ref and rules and only using fist in big gloves. like i said that is not a REAL fight friend ;D
anyway lets leave it at that.
i'll be the bigger man and agree to disagree (hand shake)
now lets get back shining ;)
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heeee he :P i win ;D
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heeee he :P i win ;D
That was class !!!! You talked yourself into a fight when he said he wasn't interested, then when he was you talked yourself out of it !!!! ;D ;D
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heeee he :P i win ;D
That was class !!!! You talked yourself into a fight when he said he wasn't interested, then when he was you talked yourself out of it !!!! ;D ;D
@ mikecam...
what are you talking about mate? i never talked myself out of a fight at all! all i said is i didnt want a "boxing match" he was the one who didnt want a REAL fight
your abviously another misinformed person who associates "boxing" with a real street fight ::)
Bless ya
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heeee he :P i win ;D
Sorry mate but you really are a pratt!!! ;)
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like i said i dont do pretend fighting!
Well here's another quick clip of me pretending to fight!! (I'm in the black this time) ;D ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nb5Ab5r1Yw
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@ groundhog...
ok, why dont we put it to the test mate? you name the time and place!!!
sounds like you have a massive chip on your shoulder chief, why all this plastic gangster talk ?
and all because someone on here disagrees with you ?
having read the post you mention about you wont tolerate being bullied or threatened and yet reading the post its YOU who comes across full of aggresion.
you need to count to 10 and then have a word with yourself, hopefully your customers dont see this side of you.
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i apologise if i offended anyone
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i apologise if i offended anyone
No probs mate, you just need to calm down a bit.. you know.. walk softly but carry a big stick, and all that stuff!! Anyhow I've quite enjoyed it really and its given me an excuse to get out my old fight vids, not sure if anyone is actually enjoying watching them.. but here's another of me pretending to fight ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RffidMD8sNE
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I wasn't offended. Funniest thread in ages. ;D
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This is one of Polewash; I wouldn`t like to take him on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_FVD0BR2Mc&feature=related
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This is one of Polewash; I wouldn`t like to take him on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_FVD0BR2Mc&feature=related
Looks a bit hard Griff. Think he's got his own patch?
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This is one of Polewash; I wouldn`t like to take him on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_FVD0BR2Mc&feature=related
Looks a bit hard Griff. Think he's got his own patch?
;D I won`t be straying on to it.
I love how brave the male presenter is. Running off, leaving the woman to cop all the flak ;D.
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@ groundhog...
I enjoyed your boxing videos mate! do you think with being a southpaw you had an advatage over regular stance? my uncle said alot of his opponents were not prepared for his big left hand! ;D
Regards GB
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No the kangaroo is mine lads, i send him out boxing for me if anyone comes onto my patch! ;D
but he still wears his dressing gown and rolls around the floor with me on soft mats at night time ;D ;D ;D
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@ groundhog...
I enjoyed your boxing videos mate! do you think with being a southpaw you had an advatage over regular stance? my uncle said alot of his opponents were not prepared for his big left hand! ;D
Regards GB
Glad you enjoyed my old vids mate, yes being a southpaw is definately an advantage I think!! ;D
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No the kangaroo is mine lads, i send him out boxing for me if anyone comes onto my patch! ;D
but he still wears his dressing gown and rolls around the floor with me on soft mats at night time ;D ;D ;D
Glad to see you have a sense of humour matey!! ;D I might give that rolling around in my dressing gown a go one of these days.. do women do jiu jitsu?? ;D
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BJJ is a sport mate!
Try choking out or arm barring 5 blokes fuelled up on Stella who are trying to kick your f..king head in!!
Stop talking like a fool mate.