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Title: Premier travel inn
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on April 15, 2011, 03:39:38 pm
Anyone else recieved notice, looks like another one going national/regional :'(
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 15, 2011, 03:49:46 pm
we were asked about a year ago to take over a few as the current wcs were not vat reg.

at the time we couldnt take them on - they said ok no probs we are looking to use a national company in the near future...
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: weetot on April 15, 2011, 04:56:35 pm
Why would being or not being vat registered make any difference?
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: jim2012 on April 15, 2011, 04:57:11 pm
like to see them take mine, we do 5 hotels and all of them are on a 4 year contract, written and signed for aswell, and i have just phoned the person who deals with it and they dont have clue.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Dean Taberner on April 15, 2011, 05:07:34 pm
Hotels aren't much for paying are they?
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: glen parva on April 15, 2011, 05:12:20 pm
i was asked to price a couple in leicester but they wanted a cheap price  :)
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Pope vader on April 15, 2011, 06:05:40 pm
like to see them take mine, we do 5 hotels and all of them are on a 4 year contract, written and signed for aswell, and i have just phoned the person who deals with it and they dont have clue.

who are the contracts with?    check the contract as usually they can get out of it if hey want with notice
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Mike_G on April 15, 2011, 06:21:30 pm
Initial have got them, they got the cleaning contract a while ago and quoted for windows in January
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: mci services on April 15, 2011, 07:05:14 pm
Initial have got them, they got the cleaning contract a while ago and quoted for windows in January

noticed initial cleaners have the girls doing outside windows as well on a bookies chain with plastic squeegies and cheap pole, poor lass hadn't a clue what she was doing.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: boldy1304 on April 15, 2011, 07:40:06 pm
ive been waiting for it to happen lost pets at home now probably premier not worth having tbh stick to domestic me thinks let the big boys have all the commercial ;D ;D
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: s.hughes on April 15, 2011, 08:02:36 pm
My Premiere told me in Decmeber that they had to cancel me for 2 months as the weather was so bad their business lost loads of money and w/c and garderners all the extras were told to hold off for the 2 months. I was told it was across the board. Did this happen to anyone else. I have them back now but dont know for how long.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on April 15, 2011, 08:12:52 pm
Same here no cleaning in jan and feb ,now given notice
Even if you have a cotract they can and will cancel.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: s.hughes on April 15, 2011, 08:18:21 pm
Do they give you a months notice?
I do the reception each week and dont want to be told to clear off when moneys owing
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on April 15, 2011, 08:42:29 pm
sure ronnie paton did a few ;)
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: jim2012 on April 15, 2011, 09:04:23 pm
We drew up our own contract via a solicitor who deals with this sort of thing, as I wasnt prepared to have no contract in place incase this sort of thing happened. Also the pay on the hotels are quite good.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Pope vader on April 15, 2011, 09:53:45 pm
who signed it  was it the individual hotels or premer inn, as you might find that the contract is worth less,  after all you cant make them have there windows cleaned by you,  and all premier inn will say it take it up with the bloke who signed it  as he was signing it with out ther knowledge
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: mci services on April 15, 2011, 09:59:08 pm
yes but could be a nice wee payout to get out of the contract if you play it right
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: jim2012 on April 16, 2011, 12:13:09 pm
its signed by the manager at the hotel and is also signed by the person who deals with the contract side at the hq of the premier inn
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Alistair@AWC on April 16, 2011, 02:21:31 pm
its signed by the manager at the hotel and is also signed by the person who deals with the contract side at the hq of the premier inn

If thats the case hopefully they will have to pay you the value of the remaining contract to get out of it  ;D

Unfortunately mine have no contracts in place but we haven't heard of anything as yet
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: s.hughes on April 16, 2011, 02:50:30 pm
same here
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: ronnie paton on April 16, 2011, 04:13:05 pm
i had to too stop for two months too and was told to start again and am in the process of getting 4 more.

i dont believe they will go national has the manager have personal preference for the standards to be high has they get regular audits.

i speak regualr with the area manager who has not mentioned any thing.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: ronnie paton on April 16, 2011, 04:13:52 pm
also premier inn and travel inn are different what is a premier travel inn????
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Alistair@AWC on April 16, 2011, 04:25:00 pm
also premier inn and travel inn are different what is a premier travel inn????

Whitbread who owned Travel Inn bought out Premier Lodge and rebranded them all Premier Travel Inn about 10 years ago although its since been shortened to Premier Inn

Its strange that we weren't asked to stop cleaning for 2 months over Christmas
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: ronnie paton on April 17, 2011, 07:05:17 pm
al s were you based im guessing maybe wrong that there are reginal managers who make these decisions.

i know up north we was effected bt the snow quite bad....

there is still travel inns about yes??
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: bluez on April 18, 2011, 01:09:44 pm
Initial got some but I know they didnt get Scotland or Northern Ireland, does anyone know who did?
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Jake Kelly on April 19, 2011, 11:40:23 am
Anyone know who got the Lincolnshire/Cambridgshire areas?
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: ronnie paton on April 19, 2011, 07:59:05 pm
this statement is true over the next two months premier inns will be going to a national company.

price out weighs quality, out i go to replace £7500 a years woth of work
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: mci services on April 19, 2011, 08:02:10 pm
Initial got some but I know they didnt get Scotland or Northern Ireland, does anyone know who did?


Not sure I will keep my eyes open when passing our local one.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Mike_G on April 19, 2011, 09:00:11 pm
I know a chap who works for initial and he reckons they got them all, they picked up the cleaning contract a few months ago and were asked to put a price in for windows as well and were told in January that they had got them
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: ronnie paton on April 19, 2011, 09:05:38 pm
they dont do the cleaning they have house maid s for that...........
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 19, 2011, 09:09:01 pm
they dont do the cleaning they have house maid s for that...........

yeah who prob are employed by initial

had this with a few jobs now - bloody nationals
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Mike_G on April 19, 2011, 09:22:11 pm
they dont do the cleaning they have house maid s for that...........

Most, if not all these premier sites have pubs next to the hotels, Initial clean the pubs and thats how they got to quote for window cleaning
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: ronnie paton on April 19, 2011, 09:34:07 pm
nah whitbtread employ there own cleaners it makes sense has well has they have control and its cheeper.

they were premier inn uniforms and are defo employed by whitbread....that is the five sites i clean
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 19, 2011, 09:35:20 pm
nah whitbtread employ there own cleaners it makes sense has well has they have control and its cheeper.

they were premier inn uniforms and are defo employed by whitbread....that is the five sites i clean


site we did was spirit group / punch pub

so not all the same i guess
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: s.hughes on April 19, 2011, 10:09:08 pm
Are we just talking Premier Inns i.e the hotels on thier own. What if they have a Beefeater on site, will Inital get those ones too??
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: outdoor restore on April 20, 2011, 02:11:48 pm
Spoke to the Manager on mine today (because of this thread - thank you).  She had an email end of last week to give notice to the WC and Gardener (She hadn't got around to doing anything with it).  I got her to check the email and have now been given notice (verbally, but awaiting letter from Manager) that our services will not be required after 30 May 2011.

Many thanks to OP for the heads up.

Neil
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Mike_G on April 20, 2011, 02:39:36 pm
nah whitbtread employ there own cleaners it makes sense has well has they have control and its cheeper.

they were premier inn uniforms and are defo employed by whitbread....that is the five sites i clean


Maybe thats why they are going national, because the one I clean had there own people, then they got contractors in, who in turn have been replaced by Initial so maybe they just want one contractor to oversee everything
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 20, 2011, 02:42:20 pm
nah whitbtread employ there own cleaners it makes sense has well has they have control and its cheeper.

they were premier inn uniforms and are defo employed by whitbread....that is the five sites i clean


Maybe thats why they are going national, because the one I clean had there own people, then they got contractors in, who in turn have been replaced by Initial so maybe they just want one contractor to oversee everything


they do it for many reasons - mainly some slap up meal in a posh place and a bit of buttering up ....

big uk chains like the few pence saving! never mind the work done!

they save more money in offices - one big invoice, one payment = less hours spent on admin = less office staff
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: sgibsoncleaning on April 20, 2011, 02:49:33 pm
the premier inn hotel cleaners and housekeepers are employed but the pub cleaning can be done by contractors.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: s.hughes on April 20, 2011, 06:02:50 pm
Im keeping quiet with my one. Until the Manager says stop then I will carry on.
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: ronnie paton on April 20, 2011, 07:14:27 pm
at least wont come has a shock when it does, they all have to be stopped by end of MAY and all invoices paid
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: s.hughes on April 20, 2011, 07:49:32 pm
So it may be worth asking then as they may not pay after that date
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: Mike_G on May 21, 2011, 02:25:06 pm
Looks like there might be a twist in the tail with this one. I spoke to a chap who works for initial today and he says Premier Inn have now split the contract 3 ways, Initial have some and 2 other companies have the others but he didn't know who the other companies were
Title: Re: Premier travel inn
Post by: shina on May 21, 2011, 08:45:22 pm
Not heard a thing about the premier I clean