Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: CLEANCARE WC on April 13, 2011, 08:46:18 pm
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JUST THOUGHT I WOULD ASK WHY SOME PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH PLUGGING THERE PRODUCTS AND OTHERS ARE JUMPED ON?
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=120934.20
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just reading that post as well and think same
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It's probably because no-one hit the moderator button. Craig from Polarbrite seems to have a dislike of Gardiners and grasses them up at every opportunity it seems.
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It would appear that someone slags Gardiners off, but Gardiners, who were merely answering a question without promoting their products gets slated. I thought it was very unjust. Gardiners were just trying to answer the objection.
It also seems that Alex (not Gardiner) was the mouth to promote Aerial Brushes and Business DVD on behalf of Tebac, but I saw no repremand with him.
Spruce
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and now alex gardiner is hinting towards no longer posting. it would be a great loss to all of us that use there products and might need advice on fitting etc >:(
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and now alex gardiner is hinting towards no longer posting. it would be a great loss to all of us that use there products and might need advice on fitting etc >:(
well i wouldnt blame him.
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There are other forums where Gardiners are more welcome but to be honest they rarely get involved much any more other than to defend themselves. Best way really and more professional than some suppliers. If you want to recommend them or anyone else you are free to post links and reviews etc but they can't do it themselves. Most of the plants are fairly obvious really. Don't think Gardiners would stoop that low.
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i feel aqua dapter get away with a lot regards the rules ...
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I think Alex G is so helpful and his knowledge and insight of wfp products is second to none.
How many suppliers would take the time to come on here to give feedback about the products they sell ?
Most people can tell when a supplier is taking liberties and trying to get free advertising, but imho Alex G is not one of these.
I would ask how many of you would go on an open forum, where your customers could pick up on any fault with your service ?
I have observed a few bad egg suppliers and their plants on here over the years, but Alex G is the only supplier I trust to give honest factual advice . . . . . so keep posting mate ;D
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To quote a film i once saw..."Dont let the player haters stop you doing your thang!" ;D
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It's probably because no-one hit the moderator button. Craig from Polarbrite seems to have a dislike of Gardiners and grasses them up at every opportunity it seems.
craig is a right bitch when gardiners are talked about.
remind me off that other bloke from omimvac what was his name gen/glen he was another
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It's probably because no-one hit the moderator button. Craig from Polarbrite seems to have a dislike of Gardiners and grasses them up at every opportunity it seems.
craig is a right bitch when gardiners are talked about.
remind me off that other bloke from omimvac what was his name gen/glen he was another
Thats right he all but said he invented the concept of the guttervac until someone posted a patent registered in the 60's..funny it didnt have his name on it
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Glyn? He was funny, came on here under a different name recommending his products ;D
Might still be about under another name.
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i feel aqua dapter get away with a lot regards the rules ...
A bit unfair.
It seems to me Aqua adapter are just keen to sort any problems. Good publicity, I know but you can`t knock them for that :-\.
It was Glyn from Omnipole/vac.
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Glyn? He was funny, came on here under a different name recommending his products ;D
Might still be about under another name.
thats the chappy.wtach him fly off the handle was great ;D ;D ;D
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I wrote why do some pay to advertise, then I deleted my statement my self, then ciu quite rightly reminded companies about advertising and therefore removed the advert.
I pay 400.00 to advertise for a quarter others do not.
Your bit about me being a grass etc a tad weird.
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Alex helped me recently, big style, it would be a shame to lose him from the forum. He doesn't have to advertise his stuff here anyway; his customers tend to do that for him. His poles are spot on (at least the SLX is, and I quite like the CLX; I've not used any of his others so can't comment).
Alex didn't tell me they were good; other forum members did this.
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It would appear that someone slags Gardiners off, but Gardiners, who were merely answering a question without promoting their products gets slated. I thought it was very unjust. Gardiners were just trying to answer the objection.
It also seems that Alex (not Gardiner) was the mouth to promote Aerial Brushes and Business DVD on behalf of Tebac, but I saw no repremand with him.
Spruce
rubbish i brought the aerail brush and it is much better
just because i dont like superlight brush, means i cant post?
i have read a post about superlught brushes falling apart when practically new
and then someone like you pops up and says how good the quality is
Im not having a go at gardiners just commenting on what you others have posted
people have a good go at brodex when one of their products go wrong
but everytime i come on here gardiners seem to have problems with all their products
ok they are cheaper, and you get what you pay for
delude yourself by all means
but dont compare their cheaper poles, brushes etc with quality products
i have just been using a facelift pole and the quality is 3 timas as better
ionics new range are fantastic poles
the better quality justifes the price tag in both these poles
gardiners new lightweight pole due out with a bigger price tag
why because its lighter?
fool and his money comes to mind
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It would appear that someone slags Gardiners off, but Gardiners, who were merely answering a question without promoting their products gets slated. I thought it was very unjust. Gardiners were just trying to answer the objection.
It also seems that Alex (not Gardiner) was the mouth to promote Aerial Brushes and Business DVD on behalf of Tebac, but I saw no repremand with him.
Spruce
rubbish i brought the aerail brush and it is much better
just because i dont like superlight brush, means i cant post?
i have read a post about superlught brushes falling apart when practically new
and then someone like you pops up and says how good the quality is
Im not having a go at gardiners just commenting on what you others have posted
people have a good go at brodex when one of their products go wrong
but everytime i come on here gardiners seem to have problems with all their products
ok they are cheaper, and you get what you pay for
delude yourself by all means
but dont compare their cheaper poles, brushes etc with quality products
i have just been using a facelift pole and the quality is 3 timas as better
ionics new range are fantastic poles
the better quality justifes the price tag in both these poles
gardiners new lightweight pole due out with a bigger price tag
why because its lighter?
fool and his money comes to mind
Rubbish, well kind of but it does indicate that you haven't a clue what you're talking about! ;D
I've owned & used a carbon facelift for 2 years, yes granted- good quality BUT HEAVY, HEAVY, A BIT MORE HEAVY, BENDY BENDY & A BIT MORE BENDY!!!! And to top it off - they cost a fortune for what is last decades technology!!
I ditched mine for Gardiner poles & have never looked back!
I've just sold my SL2 & I'm awaiting a SL-Xtreme, however, I have had to borrow a carbon facelift to do a particular job next week & BOY am I not looking forward to that!! Even I forgot how DATED the facelifts are! Think I might need to hire Popeye for a couple of days!
For the ones in the know- it's not about a pole which will last you 10 years! but the pro's already know that! ;)
The Aerial brush might be top notch quality, granted, but what good is that if the brush in use is pants? Don't confuse separate issues Alex! ::) ;)
Gardiners constantly sell out with zero advertising, ask yourself why & it might just click! ;D
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It would appear that someone slags Gardiners off, but Gardiners, who were merely answering a question without promoting their products gets slated. I thought it was very unjust. Gardiners were just trying to answer the objection.
It also seems that Alex (not Gardiner) was the mouth to promote Aerial Brushes and Business DVD on behalf of Tebac, but I saw no repremand with him.
Spruce
rubbish i brought the aerail brush and it is much better
just because i dont like superlight brush, means i cant post?
i have read a post about superlught brushes falling apart when practically new
and then someone like you pops up and says how good the quality is
Im not having a go at gardiners just commenting on what you others have posted
people have a good go at brodex when one of their products go wrong
but everytime i come on here gardiners seem to have problems with all their products
ok they are cheaper, and you get what you pay for
delude yourself by all means
but dont compare their cheaper poles, brushes etc with quality products
i have just been using a facelift pole and the quality is 3 timas as better
ionics new range are fantastic poles
the better quality justifes the price tag in both these poles
gardiners new lightweight pole due out with a bigger price tag
why because its lighter?
fool and his money comes to mind
Rubbish, well kind of but it does indicate that you haven't a clue what you're talking about! ;D
I've owned & used a carbon facelift for 2 years, yes granted- good quality BUT HEAVY, HEAVY, A BIT MORE HEAVY, BENDY BENDY & A BIT MORE BENDY!!!! And to top it off - they cost a fortune for what is last decades technology!!
I ditched mine for Gardiner poles & have never looked back!
I've just sold my SL2 & I'm awaiting a SL-Xtreme, however, I have had to borrow a carbon facelift to do a particular job next week & BOY am I not looking forward to that!! Even I forgot how DATED the facelifts are! Think I might need to hire Popeye for a couple of days!
For the ones in the know- it's not about a pole which will last you 10 years! but the pro's already know that! ;)
The Aerial brush might be top notch quality, granted, but what good is that if the brush in use is pants? Don't confuse separate issues Alex! ::) ;)
Gardiners constantly sell out with zero advertising, ask yourself why & it might just click! ;D
of course you know best winproclean
i see your advice about the extreem brush is spot on ;D
gardiners dont sell out that regular, its an old sales trick
holding the righ amount of stock each year is standard business practice
speak to any local shop keeper, you might learn something
i dont know if gardiners advertise
apart from the huge amont of time they spend grooming customers on the forum
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wow
sounds like your very bitter about something mate but an awful lot of people on here and other forums sing the praises of Gardeners and Pure Freedom and why not as they speak from experience.
when people sing the praises they are not just saying it over the product but the after service you get from these companies and their customer care also gets very high praise on here and other forums.
you don't hear people saying the same things about Brodex and Ionics and thats because the customer care is non existant.
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Gardiners service is exceptionally good and their poles are brilliant. My 4 yr old SL-X35 still works fine and my two year old SL-X22 is excellent.
I know several windies and they all try my slx's and say "wow they're light" then I tell em I paid something like £500 and £300 respectively and they say "how can you afford that?" I say "how can you afford not to?"
Light, rigid and strong. What is not to like about them?
When I was on ladders I had the lightest triple I could get - folk said I was mad using a DiY ladder for professional use. But I just added swivel feet and ladder mitts and changed the ladder every two years.
My ladder is so good it's ten years old says one windy - so what? I'm a fat geezer and I can do over a 100 ladder climbs a day with mine - if I used yours I would be gasping at 80 cuz it's so heavy to carry.
Same principle.
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Alex how many people on this site share your views. You will find there are not many, if any who feel the same as you on products. I am sure many can not be wrong and you right.You seam to love the under dog.Well mate it must be lonely out there on your own.Chin up you will learn sooner or later. ;D ;D ;D ???