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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: boldy1304 on April 05, 2011, 08:03:27 am
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as above always been asked to clean gutters buy my window custys but rarly clear them out as i dont do ladders anymore at all. have blasted some with my extended power wash lance but see it as a waste of time as it lands on the roof and washes back in. are they any good they look good but i dont know anyone who has one i would prob go for the easten trading one if i did. any feed back on these would be great thanks guys.
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I hired one for a very big job I picked up, and to be honest I hated it!! I did use it on some parts of the guttering which were too high for a ladder, but ended up doing the rest of the building off of my ladders as it was far quicker and a lot easier!!!
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Hello,
What kit did you use and what were the problems? We've just done a job, been on site for 2.5 hours and earned £350.00 with one of our vac systems. Our average job is £462.00 and those jobs never take more than 6-9 hours to complete (our average price is £1.75 per metre).
hi what system have you got please and would you say between brackets is normaly a metre or do you measure it thanks john.
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Hello,
We manufacture our own systems www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk The price per metre really depends on what type of work you are doing. Our price per metre is low because we concentrate on large jobs schools, large industrial sites and old people complexs to name a few and these jobs are usually hundreds of metres (we measure them with a measuring wheel). If you're mainly doing domestic you're looking at about £3 per metre. To give you an example we cleaned a house and next door the window cleaner was doing the windows on an identical house, we took 5 minutes longer to clean all the gutters than the window cleaner did to clean the windows, we got £55 for the gutters, he got £9 for the windows.
How do you advertise the gutter cleaning service ?
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I've done half a dozen gutter cleans over the last year or so with ladders.The problem that seems to me with guttervacs is that with almost every job the tiles came down too close to the gutters in areas of the property.I could barely get me fingers into the gutters in some cases so I don't know for the life of me how I would get a vacuum in there.I like the idea of a vac,if there was enough work for me to justifty one,but things like this put me off.Gutter work does seem like an excellent earner I must admit but I think I'll stick with the old fashioned method for now.£462 for an average job sounds great though,can't argue with that for a days work.I'm surprised that people are prepared to pay that kind of money.I charged £150 for a largish house a while back.Took me a morning and I was pretty happy with that.I was half expecting them to tell me to sling my hook when I told them the quote.
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Hello,
We manufacture our own systems www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk The price per metre really depends on what type of work you are doing. Our price per metre is low because we concentrate on large jobs schools, large industrial sites and old people complexs to name a few and these jobs are usually hundreds of metres (we measure them with a measuring wheel). If you're mainly doing domestic you're looking at about £3 per metre. To give you an example we cleaned a house and next door the window cleaner was doing the windows on an identical house, we took 5 minutes longer to clean all the gutters than the window cleaner did to clean the windows, we got £55 for the gutters, he got £9 for the windows.
was that to ust empty the crap from the gutters or to clean them outside aswell thanks john.
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dont get one i have one and sold it after 4week thay are too big too much messing around and clean it out is a job it self my one was the ionic guttervac
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nick, how do u rate your product and how much is the cctv equiptment as an add on..
richy
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we do all ours by hand and heard it took 30 minutes to set up equiptment. is this true?
richy
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30 minutes Blimey!!!!!!!!
Here's a video of us putting the poles together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13rQm64D34
You'll see the timing at the bottom. Allow a couple of minutes for getting the equipment out of the van and there you have it.
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the problem i got is now this isnt me starting a ladders war but ive just been on a working at height HSE course and cutting it short if you have a accident useing ladders when a risk assesment would have told you there is a safer method of doing the job the HSE CAN AND WILL prosecute you and in some cases the customer as they have a duty of care this is why i am ditching ladders all together im not agaist them just trying to do things right
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30 minutes Blimey!!!!!!!!
Here's a video of us putting the poles together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13rQm64D34
You'll see the timing at the bottom. Allow a couple of minutes for getting the equipment out of the van and there you have it.
32 seconds thats good
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I am impressed, so how much are your systems then, and would u buy generator or use customers ring main??
Richy
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I've just bought a bargain guttervac from polarbrite the small one and its better than the eastern one.
Only 1200 watts and does a better job than the 3000 watt eastern one and is so light its a delight to use I recommend to everyone to call Craig and ask him about it.
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I've just bought a bargain guttervac from polarbrite the small one and its better than the eastern one.
Only 1200 watts and does a better job than the 3000 watt eastern one and is so light its a delight to use I recommend to everyone to call Craig and ask him about it.
sounds good do they have a website please thanks john.
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Hello,
If you go to our website www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk you will see a selection of kits, remember that when you buy our kits you get poles as well.
You don't have to risk your valuable window cleaning poles.
We have tested them all on lots of jobs, and they all work very well.
We always take a generator for convenience, but we do now that some operators plug in to their customers ring main.
The great thing about this system is that as well as earning very good money, you can now do over conservatories and extensions.
i like the look of the 3600watt one i gonna start saving as i think its the way to go £250 more for this one but ive not herd anything good about the eastern trading one
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www.polarbrite.co.uk
they are selling it on ebay for £220 with everything you need!
its a excellent bit of kit and have found craig so easy to deal with and always very helpfull.
i ordered last tuesday at 4pm and had it on the wednesday at 1pm.
you can't get better service than that!
I've just bought a bargain guttervac from polarbrite the small one and its better than the eastern one.
Only 1200 watts and does a better job than the 3000 watt eastern one and is so light its a delight to use I recommend to everyone to call Craig and ask him about it.
sounds good do they have a website please thanks john.
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www.polarbrite.co.uk
they are selling it on ebay for £220 with everything you need!
its a excellent bit of kit and have found craig so easy to deal with and always very helpfull.
i ordered last tuesday at 4pm and had it on the wednesday at 1pm.
you can't get better service than that!
I've just bought a bargain guttervac from polarbrite the small one and its better than the eastern one.
Only 1200 watts and does a better job than the 3000 watt eastern one and is so light its a delight to use I recommend to everyone to call Craig and ask him about it.
sounds good do they have a website please thanks john.
so how and is it easy to fit on to your wfp
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takes seconds m8!
id suggest getting a harris pole like i have and stick a angle adaptor on it.Then its attached all the time and ready to use,20 seconds to get out the van pull the pole up and suck away its perfect m8!
£220!
Best £220 you will spend!
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takes seconds m8!
id suggest getting a harris pole like i have and stick a angle adaptor on it.Then its attached all the time and ready to use,20 seconds to get out the van pull the pole up and suck away its perfect m8!
£220!
Best £220 you will spend!
just asked a question on e bay there reply was this .....these fit onto the plastic angled thread on unger , varitech or any other pole using these. ....... i use the extel poles from pure freedem with the black angle adapter on it is that the one it fits too as i havnt got a clue thanks john.
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Yes m8 any angle adaptor.
takes seconds m8!
id suggest getting a harris pole like i have and stick a angle adaptor on it.Then its attached all the time and ready to use,20 seconds to get out the van pull the pole up and suck away its perfect m8!
£220!
Best £220 you will spend!
just asked a question on e bay there reply was this .....these fit onto the plastic angled thread on unger , varitech or any other pole using these. ....... i use the extel poles from pure freedem with the black angle adapter on it is that the one it fits too as i havnt got a clue thanks john.
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30 minutes Blimey!!!!!!!!
Here's a video of us putting the poles together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13rQm64D34
You'll see the timing at the bottom. Allow a couple of minutes for getting the equipment out of the van and there you have it.
Hi Nick
How much does your poles weight ?
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Hello,
Those prices are for emptying out the gutters only.
Regards to the space between the tiles and the gutters it can be a nightmare. That's why we manufacture our own heads, we have different size heads for different size gutters, we found that the off the shelf heads many times would simply not fit in the gutters. You'd be surprised at the money people will pay for gutter cleans but it's like I said we concentrate on large jobs consisting of hundreds of metres (considering one of our jobs came to £5850.00, the largest job we quoted for was for £19,800.00 but unfortunately was shelved due to M.O.D cutbacks)
Are your poles "streampole" sections?
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Hello,
Each of our 5ft poles weigh 1 kg. Not sure what "Streampole" sections are but all our poles and heads are manufactured by us
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hi doctor, you say you can do the same job as a grands worth kit. say from nick
or eastern. for £220 :o
stevieg.
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yes m8 no problem at all
Great bit of kit,takes no room up in the van and can carry through houses if need be!
hi doctor, you say you can do the same job as a grands worth kit. say from nick
or eastern. for £220 :o
stevieg.
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Hello,
Each of our 5ft poles weigh 1 kg. Not sure what "Streampole" sections are but all our poles and heads are manufactured by us
Nick, how rigid do the poles stay when fitted together. I'm just wondering how high you can get up to before it becomes too difficult to control.
Thanks
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Hello,
We've put 8 poles together (40ft) and can get them up and down. However we do a lot of commercial work (old people's homes, apartment complexes) and have never needed to go above 30ft (4 storey building). Also a lot of times when you get to that height you'll more often than not find there's nothing in the gutters.
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Hi Nick,
Where are you in Norwich
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Hello,
For those of you on a tight budget we're now doing a new super value Gutter Cleaning Kit. It'll be on our website in the next day or so but is available for purchase now!!
1400 watt 16 litre vacuum cleaner
12ft of 51mm hose
3 x 5ft aluminium poles and head
Brand new gutter surveying mirror with clamp (a new innovation for those of you who can't afford a camera and it works brilliantly!)
All this for only £199 + VAT!!!
We can also supply a kit with a generator for £359 + VAT!!
Extra poles are always available.
Hi nick
Can you e mail me your mobile number please?
My e mail is: info@pccom.co.uk
I am thinking of coming to see you this Saturday coming.
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i cannot for the life of me see how a 1400 w vac could be sufficient? sometimes 2 motors is not enough and you need all 3 (et vac) and even omni users will tell you this. by the way do you realise you have to pay to advertise your products nick day?
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surley on the big jobs you must be empting the thing all the time.!!!!!!!!!!
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You need to empty all the money out you've earned by the sound of it. ;D ;D
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i cannot for the life of me see how a 1400 w vac could be sufficient? sometimes 2 motors is not enough and you need all 3 (et vac) and even omni users will tell you this. by the way do you realise you have to pay to advertise your products nick day?
The polarvak gen 2, 1200W uses thinner bore hose which gives it similar suction as the 2400W with a 51mm hose.
This in my opinion is very good for residentials and small commercial properties.
The other benefit of the gen 2 is the size, the weight of the smaller bore hose is so much lighter than the 51mm hose, if you don't have much space in your van or if you are running close to your vans maximum payload this unit will be excellent.
I currently use the Gen 1 with 51mm hose, when I have some spare cash I WILL be buying the Gen 2 smaller unit just for residential customers.
Matt
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Hello,
We are based in Wroxham just North of Norwich. Cleancare Window cleaning, look at the banner at the top of the home page, we do pay to advertise, it's not cheap either!!! We tried the 3000 watt chinese hoovers and to be honest were very unimpressed!! Apart from the fact the thing crushed in on itself and we had to have a metal band fitted the suction was very poor on that machine. All the machines we sell have been tried and tested on thousands of metres of guttering by us.
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Nick how heavy are each of the metal sections?
what are the joints like when you have to reach over a conservatory?
Also what diameter are the poles?
Matt
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Hello,
We've put 8 poles together (40ft) and can get them up and down. However we do a lot of commercial work (old people's homes, apartment complexes) and have never needed to go above 30ft (4 storey building). Also a lot of times when you get to that height you'll more often than not find there's nothing in the gutters.
On your commercial work, do you still use 240v?
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Hello
The poles are 51mm diameter, each 5ft pole weighs 1kg. The joints are totally solid when reaching over a conservatory, if you look at www.theguttersquad.co.uk that's our cleaning website you'll see a picture of us working over a conservatory. On the commercial work we use 240 volt, we did have a 110 volt kit but sold it in the end due to never being asked to use 110 volt, these sites include schools and housing complexes where we have had to submit risk assessments and method statements.
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doctorwindows have you gone over a conny with it yet? can you get add on bits for it ?
Nick how long have you been doing them for as polerbrite have been going for a bit so feel safer to buy off them can you tell me abit more info?
going to buy 1 today but dont know which 1 ??? ??? ??? can anyone give me more info or if they have got 1 please ??? ???
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Hello,
This will be a one off purchase for you so it is important you get it right.
Our first kit was a polar vac, we used it for two hours and never again. The head was uncontrollable and the hose just got heavier and heavier as the sludge built up and the window cleaning pole made it far too flexible.
We then had the Omni poles they jammed terribly.
We then developed our own kits.
It would appear that lots of people get on with both kits, they just didn't suit us.
So before you buy, try them. You are welcome to come and try ours.
We have actually cleaned approx 12,500 metres with our kits in six months.
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Of course Bee you are also welcome to try ours (we also advertise on here see carpet cleaning!!)
We also use our model to clean many meters of apartment guttering, we have a portfolio of over 100 blocks of apartments, all cleaned with the polarvak.
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Thanks for the offer but its a bit out of my way to get to try them both, Craig will they go higher 22f, can i get poles to fit on the hose ???
Nick do your ones come with guarantee on the unit as i like the look of the poles? is the vid on your site the small one?
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I have the Chinese unit, shows no sign of collapsing and has loads of suction. It is rather heavy and large for domestics though. I might buy a smaller vac to keep in the van for the odd jobs soon.
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Hello,
Yes our units come with a 1 year guarantee. The video on our website on the super value page is the small one working.
We have this week developed a gutter surveying mirror that swivels to all angles on a clamp that will fit any water fed or up to 2" pole.
These will now be free with every kit.
We were surprised at the visibility with them.
They will be on our website this week-end.
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nope its just easier to do it by ladder mate. and fascia cleans aswell.
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Thanks for the offer but its a bit out of my way to get to try them both, Craig will they go higher 22f, can i get poles to fit on the hose ???
Nick do your ones come with guarantee on the unit as i like the look of the poles? is the vid on your site the small one?
Yes it can go to 45' and for a 38mm hose, this is very light weight so would be no need for fixed poles, with a hose you get NO air flow loss.
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Craig how much is the 45' hose and how you used it on one ???
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At the end of the day regardless of peoples thoughts on the advantages or disadvantges of one system over the other, a simple law of physics states quite simply that a 51mm hose or pipe will always allow more muck and debris through than a 38mm hose or pipe.
This equates to less blockages and faster times...simples!!
That is why our commercial gutter cleaning systems will always be 51mm.
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Nick you said yours was £199+vat ??? its 275+vat on your site ??? how much are they ???
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Hello,
The website is being redone and will become live over the week-end. At the moment it is just you guys on this forum who now of our new plans and prices.
A three pole system including gutter surveying mirror will be £199.00 plus VAT.
This will be for a 20 litre, 1400 watt Clarke commercial vacuum, 15' of 51mm (2") aluminium poles, 12' of 51mm hose, vacuum head and mirror.
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How much could you do the Clarke vac for with 38mm inlet, no poles?
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Thanks Nick, will it be in stock on Monday to send out asap?
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Go with polarvac.polarbrite are a great company and the guttervac is excellent and you will get much better customer service from polarbrite than a fly by night company.
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i have been doing a few gutter lately, and i have noticed that all my blockages are on the corner of the down spout, is it any good with the likes of these
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Go with polarvac.polarbrite are a great company and the guttervac is excellent and you will get much better customer service from polarbrite than a fly by night company.
how are they fly by night
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how many have you used it on doctor? have you been over a conny yet? is the harris ok for it? what if you need to go higher what pole will you use? lots to think about just dont know if i like the poles on the other 1 (easy to add on to and go higher) or polar hose no loss of power (no pole joints to brake) help please ???
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Perfect on the Harris.
I.can put it on my clx 27 no probs take about a minute,to set up all nice and light best of all telescopic and you can buy hose extensions for higher buildings.
Speak to Craig trevain about them m8.
how many have you used it on doctor? have you been over a conny yet? is the harris ok for it? what if you need to go higher what pole will you use? lots to think about just dont know if i like the poles on the other 1 (easy to add on to and go higher) or polar hose no loss of power (no pole joints to brake) help please ???
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Hello,
I cleaned my first gutters 42 years ago. I had a window and floor cleaning business for 30 years and cleaned Marks and Spencer, Next, Iceland, McDonalds, Natwest banks, Debenhams, Mothercare, and many more iconic high street names on a daily basis. I had 30 employees, but dreaded the days when managers or their assistants asked me to clean their gutters at home. Due to employee insurance, I always did the gutter cleaning from a ladder, there was no other way.
I then went into manufacturing, and have now returned to the cleaning industry.
My son decided he would like to do gutter cleaning as so few people do it, especially with the new ladderless systems coming on to the market.
We offer our customers full guarantees and any advice from how to do the work through to how to get the work, we can also offer risk assesments and method statements (essential if you want to do school work).
As I have said previously we tried the systems available, and in our opinion thought we could make changes that suited our way of cleaning better.
All of our developments and I will point out that we actually do the work ourselves, not empolyees, are based on our own daily experiences.
We are VAT registered, our credit and debit cards facilities are through Barclays we are official Kärcher and Clarke products distributors and can assure any of you that none of these top companies would do business with "fly by nights".
We all are entitled to our opinions and any opinion we offer will be based on experience.
Our joints will not break, they have been designed and are manufactured by qualified engineers.
All of our vacuums have 51mm inlets.
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And he's only 30 years old ;D
Hello,
I cleaned my first gutters 42 years ago. I had a window and floor cleaning business for 30 years and cleaned Marks and Spencer, Next, Iceland, McDonalds, Natwest banks, Debenhams, Mothercare, and many more iconic high street names on a daily basis. I had 30 employees, but dreaded the days when managers or their assistants asked me to clean their gutters at home. Due to employee insurance, I always did the gutter cleaning from a ladder, there was no other way.
I then went into manufacturing, and have now returned to the cleaning industry.
My son decided he would like to do gutter cleaning as so few people do it, especially with the new ladderless systems coming on to the market.
We offer our customers full guarantees and any advice from how to do the work through to how to get the work, we can also offer risk assesments and method statements (essential if you want to do school work).
As I have said previously we tried the systems available, and in our opinion thought we could make changes that suited our way of cleaning better.
All of our developments and I will point out that we actually do the work ourselves, not empolyees, are based on our own daily experiences.
We are VAT registered, our credit and debit cards facilities are through Barclays we are official Kärcher and Clarke products distributors and can assure any of you that none of these top companies would do business with "fly by nights".
We all are entitled to our opinions and any opinion we offer will be based on experience.
Our joints will not break, they have been designed and are manufactured by qualified engineers.
All of our vacuums have 51mm inlets.
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Actually I'm 62 years old.
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your website are dowm nick so i cant even look
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your website are dowm nick so i cant even look
http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/
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Just had a look at the prices and compared to what was available only a couple of years ago they are a bargain. I think I paid around £500 just for a vac 3200w which fell apart after two years.
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Hi Nick
Just like to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your company yesterday and the Gutter vac you sold me has proven fantastic in terms of quality of workmanship and ease of use. I would highly recommend you to any one who like to buy your products.
P.S. this is a little video I did today regarding the Gutter vac you sold me yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjg3S-6o0A4
Regards,
Bosh :)
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Hi Nick
Just like to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your company yesterday and the Gutter vac you sold me has proven fantastic in terms of quality of workmanship and ease of use. I would highly recommend you to any one who like to buy your products.
P.S. this is a little video I did today regarding the Gutter vac you sold me yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjg3S-6o0A4
Regards,
Bosh :)
which one did you go for, i want one with a genny, camera and karcher vac but currently saving up for a new van so probably just go for their cheap version to get me by for now.
paul
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Hi Nick
Just like to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your company yesterday and the Gutter vac you sold me has proven fantastic in terms of quality of workmanship and ease of use. I would highly recommend you to any one who like to buy your products.
P.S. this is a little video I did today regarding the Gutter vac you sold me yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjg3S-6o0A4
Regards,
Bosh :)
which one did you go for, i want one with a genny, camera and karcher vac but currently saving up for a new van so probably just go for their cheap version to get me by for now.
paul
Hi P1 w1
Well I was going to buy the large Karcher one but, Nick was so helpful and said I don’t need the large one, just try the small one and see for myself how good it is, you can actually see it in my video clip. It’s a great peace of kit.
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hi mate thanks for the reply
i watched your vid which has made my mind up that i will get one from them, which unit did you actually get was it the one they were advertising on here for £199 and do you think 3 poles gives you a high enough reach for a standard house.
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hi mate thanks for the reply
i watched your vid which has made my mind up that i will get one from them, which unit did you actually get was it the one they were advertising on here for £199 and do you think 3 poles gives you a high enough reach for a standard house.
Your more than welcome P1w1.
Yes that’s the one, just call Nick or if you can go and see him better and he will give you all the best advice.
He is GEM.
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hi mate thanks for the reply
i watched your vid which has made my mind up that i will get one from them, which unit did you actually get was it the one they were advertising on here for £199 and do you think 3 poles gives you a high enough reach for a standard house.
Your more than welcome P1w1.
Yes that’s the one, just call Nick or if you can go and see him better and he will give you all the best advice.
He is GEM.
cheers mate i'm up there next week so going to arrange to see them.
paul