Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windiewasher on April 04, 2011, 02:10:52 pm
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are they better for rinsing?
im looking at getting some but want to know if they rinse better than pencil jets?
Are they easy to fit to the brush?
cheers guys
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to be honest mate stick with the pencils they are more controllable on the glass.had fitted fans on the other pole but had a bad experience with them washing a load of crap off the frames and glass. they save no more water then pencils. but they are great for gutter cleans though.
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This has been covered many times before but these are the facts:
Fan jets do rinse better than pencil jets - but you must get the right brush (recommend Salmon blue bristle brush) and always rinse on the glass with them.
You use them with a higher flow rate - no. 8-9 if you are 1-10 (80-90 if 1-100) but they do use less water. Pencils always use more water - FACT
You will work faster as well once you have perfected your rinsing technique.
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Would making your brush into a 4 yet bursh cut down time? and save water
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to be honest mate stick with the pencils they are more controllable on the glass.had fitted fans on the other pole but had a bad experience with them washing a load of crap off the frames and glass. they save no more water then pencils. but they are great for gutter cleans though.
surely thats what you want them to do ?
fans are superior to pencils - but it's down to personal preference
Darran
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are they better for rinsing?
im looking at getting some but want to know if they rinse better than pencil jets?
Are they easy to fit to the brush?
cheers guys
i use fan jets and have had no problem with them pull dirt onto the glass, the rinse better than pancils and rinse quicker, but you do need to rinse on the glass.
Dont you have an aerial brush doc? that is what i am using my fan jets in and i think its a good combination, i got the xtreme brush today, im going to give that a go and see how it compare to the aerial, it feels so light.
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how do they rinse quicker? am not questioning your statement just trying to understand.
also i thought fan jets were located above the brush head?
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with fan jets the water is forced out in a flat arc (40 or 60 deg) and as water then follows this direction as it hits the
window you get a solid wall of water (about 0.5mm thick) the entire length of the brush head ( the end bristles keep the water inside the brush area ) this water then immediately sheets down the glass. all done rincing the window in as little a 5 seconds.
with pencils the jet hits the window and 'mushrooms' and as most rinse off the glass bounces back off, you then have to sweep the brush back and forthup down all over the window to rince it.
fans are best fitted inside the head - above the head can only lead to disaster - get good quality jets not the cheap brass things.
Darran
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are they better for rinsing?
im looking at getting some but want to know if they rinse better than pencil jets?
Are they easy to fit to the brush?
cheers guys
i have fan jets , i love them , i even fitted a third one to the middle of my brush.
you need to be exact with the drill size then tap them in , its a better fit.
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Cheers smudger i can understand now why they are quicker if they spray across the entire brush.
I belive the blue fans from Gardiners are well known to be good?
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did a job today and the frames were making the water milky can you still use fan jets with frame that have this problem ???
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did a job today and the frames were making the water milky can you still use fan jets with frame that have this problem
you just have to scrub and rinse this what milky water away.. just rinse rinse rinse! should be ok
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Thanks to Darran and Lee's help i changed to 40 degree fan jets, i got a super-lite 15 degree double trim brush.
I got Gardiners to supply and fit this when i got my clx 22 foot.
I like this set-up.
I love using the fan jets, took me a few days to get use to; I am definately quicker and i am using less water around 10-20% less water for me.
My round is actually on time now, i know the weather is obviously better but i am defiately getting more work done everyday.
Even another £20 a week adds up, helps pay for brush and fan jets; and petrol rises ::)
Darran and Lee; do you think I am ok to leave my superlite dt brush on to rinse? still can't help but lift off glass a little; old habits i guess :D
Will soon get aqua-dapter to finally have perfect pole for window cleaning ;)
Lee
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did they charge you to fit the fan jets
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Lee - if it's a Mono then yes - i have not used a flocked brush for a very long time so i cant say but i would
say there could be a risk leaving it on the glass, but i'm sure some1 uses the flocked and rinces on.
Darran
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Darran this is the brush i have
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/info_BRU_SL_FLKD_JET__15d.html
semi-flocked so safer to lift a few millimetres off glass i suppose ???
Hi Dave, yep gardiners did charge to fit fans £6 ish fan jets £11 roughly; so £17 + brush and vat.
I paid £47 ish for brush in link with 40 degree fans fitted; but it pays for itself ;)
also flies over conny roofs; had a spare pair of fan jets that i fitted myself (not the best job ;D) to an old flocked oval vikan brush, fans give a brillant rinse over roofs and great for cleaning outside of the white guttering on the conservatories.
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Hi Lee, hopefully some1 who uses flocked can advise, i know the ends on a flocked are with way to hold and trap
the dirt, but with a high flow rate all the debris should be washed out of the bush.
Darran