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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 03:12:26 pm

Title: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 03:12:26 pm
I've always carried ladders on a car but am getting a WFP shortly. I'll still need a ladder for some jobs but am concerned about getting the ladder on and off the van - Toyota Hiace or similar

Has anyone any experience of this and can can advise? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Ian101 on April 01, 2011, 03:16:35 pm
I have a transit normal roof so about same as hiace. Just stand on side loading door sill and tailgate sill to access ladder clamps if u go for hiace make sure its got twin rear doors cos if u go for the big tailgate version u gonna struggle
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 03:21:42 pm
Thanks Ian. What difference does the single tailgate make?
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: ascjim on April 01, 2011, 03:25:54 pm
get a roll bar at the back. sorted
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 03:36:35 pm
Again thanks - could you elaborate on this please
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: DaveG on April 01, 2011, 03:44:15 pm
My van is similar to a Hiace, but with a tailgate door(which I prefer, to having 2 doors) and all I do is stand on the rear wheel to undo ladder clamp.
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 04:00:08 pm
My van is similar to a Hiace, but with a tailgate door(which I prefer, to having 2 doors) and all I do is stand on the rear wheel to undo ladder clamp.

Do you just use one ladder clamp. Have only used bungees to-date
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: mci services on April 01, 2011, 04:19:01 pm
I only use one clamp unless I am going on a motorway and that is never.
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: windolene on April 01, 2011, 04:31:28 pm
Hi,
Use roll bar on transit connect. Stand on back trye & open side door to undo clamps.

Kevin WINDOLENE.
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 01, 2011, 04:34:03 pm
unless im missing something here?? isnt this a bit of a daft question??

a roof rack, roll bar and a small pair of steps - sorted!
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 04:56:21 pm
Thanks. What is a roll bar and how does it work?
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 01, 2011, 05:19:56 pm
really?

how long have you been a wc??

surely by now how would have earned the funds to upgrade your business to a van??

im not saying you have to have a brand new van with a top notch wfp system in it but in my view - in this day and age: all good businesses should use vans, sign writting, insurance ....
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 05:32:14 pm
really?

how long have you been a wc??

surely by now how would have earned the funds to upgrade your business to a van??

im not saying you have to have a brand new van with a top notch wfp system in it but in my view - in this day and age: all good businesses should use vans, sign writting, insurance ....

What does this response relate to? I can't decipher an answer to my question from it
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 01, 2011, 05:33:30 pm
as i cant believe you dont even know who to take a ladder off a van!!

god your gonna have fun wfp
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Ian101 on April 01, 2011, 05:38:44 pm
Single tailgate when up would make it impossible to get at ladders cos it adds about 5 foot onto roof length u need twin rear doors that open outwards as opposed to going up ..... Rollbar is a ladder roller which goes onto rear of roofrack and helps ladders onto main rack
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 05:39:17 pm
as i cant believe you dont even know who to take a ladder off a van!!

god your gonna have fun wfp

I don't know how to take ladders off a van as I haven't done it before - sorry if you find this offensive.

Perhaps you could provide advice and support in keeping with the ethos of the forum rather than making glib comments.
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Wc Solutions on April 01, 2011, 05:41:07 pm
as i cant believe you dont even know who to take a ladder off a van!!

god your gonna have fun wfp

I don't know how to take ladders off a van as I haven't done it before - sorry if you find this offensive.

Perhaps you could provide advice and support in keeping with the ethos of the forum rather than making glib comments.

ok then, take a look in screw fix cat for a roof rack and rool bars
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: DaveG on April 01, 2011, 05:42:41 pm
Single tailgate when up would make it impossible to get at ladders cos it adds about 5 foot onto roof length u need twin rear doors that open outwards as opposed to going up ..... Rollbar is a ladder roller which goes onto rear of roofrack and helps ladders onto main rack

Unless you stood on the wheel
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Dave Turley on April 01, 2011, 06:23:21 pm
I drive a hiace and i made a rack inside my van for my triple ladder to slide into. It's ace!

you can see it on my website or my avatar
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: bobby p on April 01, 2011, 06:39:26 pm
I recommend using Python cable locks to hold down your ladder,much faster than clamps and they thread through the hollow rungs which means you dont need to reach up  so high to put them on.    bought mine in Bn q    and they are thief proof (i hope !)
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Glen on April 01, 2011, 07:57:38 pm
I drive a hiace and i made a rack inside my van for my triple ladder to slide into. It's ace!

you can see it on my website or my avatar


Thanks. The only picture I can see is an enlarged one of the cleanitup one. Do you have any others showing how it is mounted?

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I recommend using Python cable locks to hold down your ladder,much faster than clamps and they thread through the hollow rungs which means you dont need to reach up  so high to put them on.    bought mine in Bn q    and they are thief proof (i hope !)

Do they secure it without any play though?
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 01, 2011, 08:05:34 pm
I drive a hiace and i made a rack inside my van for my triple ladder to slide into. It's ace!

you can see it on my website or my avatar

what hot water system is that Dave?
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Mike_G on April 01, 2011, 08:16:59 pm
How tall are you? It might make a difference as to whether you can reach or not.

But if you have two clamps securing the ladder chances are one will be got to by standing on the rear wheel to gain access to and the other by standing in the the van with the front door open. I wouldn't bother with a little set of steps unless there was no other way of getting it off.
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: Llaaww on April 01, 2011, 08:42:45 pm
My van is similar to a Hiace, but with a tailgate door(which I prefer, to having 2 doors) and all I do is stand on the rear wheel to undo ladder clamp.

Do you just use one ladder clamp. Have only used bungees to-date

Having watched six large ladders bouncing off my bonnet and sliding into a busy road (outside a police station) ((trinity rd bristol)) I am astonished that anybody would use a bungee to hold the things on the roof.

Please take some advice from an old pro.

1: Learn to tie them on properly with rope, and invest in good quality 6mm climbing rope.

or 2: get some good quality ladder clamps.

please don't use bungee for ladders.
Title: Re: Carrying ladders on a van
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 01, 2011, 08:48:22 pm


Please take some advice from an old pro.

1: Learn to tie them on properly with rope, and invest in good quality 6mm climbing rope.

or 2: get some good quality ladder clamps.

please don't use bungee for ladders.

sorry llaaw but tieing ladders on with rope looks well pykie...ladder locks yes of course