Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: GoodFella2006 on March 30, 2011, 12:26:55 pm
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(http://www.johnhewitt.com/wc_Rechargeable-Electric-Backpack-Sprayer-ESR505-.jpg)
Shurflo Back Pack:
Window Cleaning Warehouse £279.99 (Exc. VAT)
www.omnipole.co.uk £175.00 + Vat
Xlinesystems (http://xline-systems.co.uk/epages/eshop146176.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop146176/Products/SBP) £180.00 +?
Extend to wash (http://www.johnhewitt.com/wc.htm) £139 including vat
(http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/images/WCWBackpack.jpg)
WCW Backpack v2/Facelift Backpack/ESR 16:
Window Cleaning Warehouse £119.95 (Exc. VAT)
Polarbrite (http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_20_24&products_id=635) £119.95 (Exc. VAT)
Extend to wash (http://www.johnhewitt.com/wc.htm) £121
Wcdirect (http://www.wcdirect.co.uk/Facelift-Backpack.html) £95.00 ex VAT
(http://www.omnipole.com/IMG_0425.JPG)
Bayersan Backpack:
omnipole.com £225.00 + VAT
(http://www.johnhewitt.com/WC_backpack_ESR18_small.jpg)(http://www.johnhewitt.com/esr18_controls_small.jpg)
Backpack ESR18:
Extend2wash £119 (http://www.johnhewitt.com/wc.htm)
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i have the esr16 from john hewitt - extend to wash.
great bit of kit! cost me £130 inc vat & del
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i got the blue wcw one a couple of months ago its great
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i got the blue wcw one a couple of months ago its great
same crop sprayer as the esr16 but it costs a tad more from wcw...
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bit loike this one http://www.cswshopping.co.uk/stage-system-with-cartridge-p-1005.html
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I've got the Shurflo backpack and the yellow Window Cleaning Warehouse one. The Shurflo is far superior.
The build quality is better, mine's had a RIGHT HAMMERING, and is still going strong after four years. Not only that, you can easily stick in a spare battery; you can't without a load of fannying about with the WCW one.
And also check out e-bay. I bought my last Shurflo from the US and it worked out cheaper (though I had to pay import duty).
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Filling up these backpacks is bit of a hassle.
I don't want to carry water barrels in my van so thinking about getting a more powerful pump.
(http://www.pumpexpress.co.uk/acatalog/UP1-N.jpg)
Marco UP1-N 12V Self Priming Water Pump Ref: UP1-N 12V
Self-priming electric water pump with self-lubricating flexible impeller for prolonged life.
Brass body with stainless steel shafts.
Suitable for fresh or salt water, for intermittent use only.
The internal brush holder, with EMI filter included, protects the motor from corrosion especially in a sea water environment. When used with an external tube the flow rate increases by 3 l/min.
For intermittent use only.
Pressure 0.8 bar
Flow Rate 35 l/min
Low voltage 12v
Ports 1/2" BSP inner thread and Ø25mm bore hose connections
Consumption 9.5A 11A
Dimensions 176x120x94mm
Weight 2.8kg
Temperature Min -10C Max 60C
Price: £132.71 (Including VAT at 20%)
Source (http://www.pumpexpress.co.uk/acatalog/Low_Voltage_.html)
0.8 bar works out 11.6 PSI so it's not any good for pumping water to the pole through 100m minibore i guess.
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Most lads here tend to use (and correct me if I'm wrong) a shuflo or a flojet pump at 100 psi. I use the shurflo. And if you've a van, then yes of course you should go van mounted. Backpacks are really more for people who wish to work out of a car.
Or others use trolley systems where parking is an issue.
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Tosh......I got 2 shells of shurflo's where things have broken in them in the past. Do you know whether I could fit a new uk system to inside of it? Thanks in advance ;)
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Tosh......I got 2 shells of shurflo's where things have broken in them in the past. Do you know whether I could fit a new uk system to inside of it? Thanks in advance ;)
If you're talking about shurflo backpacks, then yes you can; I'm sure.
But I've never had to do this myself, but I've read posts here from guys who've replaced the pump or the circuit board (which I've seen advertised - but can't remember where - maybe it was Window Cleaning Warehouse).
I've never had to open my backpack up, but I'm sure they're not that complicated to fix.
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WCW yellow fellow is like a duracel bunny for me it keeps going on and on no problems to report after two years use
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Cheers Tosh. I didn't explain myself clearly as usual lol. The shell/plastic body is from america as yours are. I've been unluckier though lol. Got through 2 in a bloody year :-(
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Cheers Tosh. I didn't explain myself clearly as usual lol. The shell/plastic body is from america as yours are. I've been unluckier though lol. Got through 2 in a bloody year :-(
what you doing with it.
the old saying look after it,and it looks after you.
mine 2years old(shurflo) and still going strong must say that i only use it on a few stand alone jobs now,but when i 1st had it got use everyday.
had a small leak from the pipe but easy fix.cant see a problem with replacing any part as it easy to take all out leaving just the shell.
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When you use your backpack do you add hose to it or just make sure you have a long pole hose?
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Cheers for this post I'm after a new backpack with trolly so I'm going to order (when back in stock) a WS series backpack and trolley the biggest one (WS18T) from Extend 2 wash.
Cheers
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I dont abuse it. Just use it all day every day. I think more often than not,the problem is damp gets in the electrics and causes problems with the on/off switch. I've had some shurflos last a year or two. Just had a bad run lately.
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Cheers for this post I'm after a new backpack with trolly so I'm going to order (when back in stock) a WS series backpack and trolley the biggest one (WS18T) from Extend 2 wash.
Cheers
hi ya mate.
the ws backpacks only have one flow rate, i can personally speak up for the ESR16 - yes no trolley but down bnq and your sorted or mug an old lady on her shopping day.
esr16 is the same bp as wcw but cheaper from johns site.
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I dont abuse it. Just use it all day every day. I think more often than not,the problem is damp gets in the electrics and causes problems with the on/off switch. I've had some shurflos last a year or two. Just had a bad run lately.
My first one lasted about 18 months, but I used to leave it overnight in the car, even in Winter, and the electrics did play up.
With my second one, I never left it in my vehicle overnight and it's lasted over four years and had a right hammering.
Therefore I think that leaving it in the car overnight, particularly during Winter, isn't good for backpacks.
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Leave it in the car overnight in winter and if you get a small crystal of ice in the pump stopping one of the non return valves sealing it wont build any pressure. Put it somewhere warm for a while and it will be OK. My trolleys and backpacks all come indoors if it is likely to freeze.
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Cheers for this post I'm after a new backpack with trolly so I'm going to order (when back in stock) a WS series backpack and trolley the biggest one (WS18T) from Extend 2 wash.
Cheers
ive got two ws15 backpacks great pieces of kit for the money
only one speed but ideal for me,if flows too strong for yourself
just stick a hoselock plastic flow controller to turn flow down.
the only weakness is the switch under the pack just like the
shurflo, easy enough to wire up a better switch further up
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Be careful about restricting the flow as this could overwork the over pressure switch. In my experience most pumps that fail prematurely have a knackered op switch because the owner was too tight to buy a flow control.
If your pump fails disconnect the 2 wires to the op switch and join them together. In most cases your pump will magically start working. only it won't cut out if you close the output hose. Seems obvious to me but judging on the number of pumps I have sold where buyers had this problem it isn't obvious to everybody.
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Just wondered if anyone can help. Bought the wcw backpack and broke the control numpty of and now stuck on the fastest speed emptys in no time. Soon as i saw the control numpty and how it protrudes i thought i must be careful i dont snap it off, anyway it happened lol. A bad design i think, only a few months old but obviously my fault.
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Just wondered if anyone can help. Bought the wcw backpack and broke the control numpty of and now stuck on the fastest speed emptys in no time. Soon as i saw the control numpty and how it protrudes i thought i must be careful i dont snap it off, anyway it happened lol. A bad design i think, only a few months old but obviously my fault.
Snap :-\(literally)
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Just wondered if anyone can help. Bought the wcw backpack and broke the control numpty of and now stuck on the fastest speed emptys in no time. Soon as i saw the control numpty and how it protrudes i thought i must be careful i dont snap it off, anyway it happened lol. A bad design i think, only a few months old but obviously my fault.
Mines done the same m8 after a week. Cost me £22 to replace flow switch.
Going to put a kitchen cupboard handle over it to act as a bumper . (seen speed switches on e bay for £3 for model railways does anyone have any idea if these work for back packs,)
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When you use your backpack do you add hose to it or just make sure you have a long pole hose?
i use pole hose from pole to backpack works fine.
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ws18 from john hewitt £110 delivered been using it a month great backpack.
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I bought an ESR505c from John Hewitt. It has an intermittent fault that John can't find or repair.
I would not recommend for this reason + wasted postage return fees and, it still cuts out and won't work for hours.
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Wish id bought another shurflo now to be honest started off with it about 3 years ago still going strong. Just thought the wcw one had a handle and a easy flow controller which snapped off far too easy. So now no flow controller at all. I have a van mount but take son with me sometimes with the backpack which is now the 3 year old shurflow. you just know that control on the wcw backpack is going to snap off, too late now though. :'(
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i would never buy another shurflo, pcb goes far too easy
on them and they are way overpriced.
i have a couple of ws15 never have a problem with
them well priced they have a decent 70 psi pump
that chucks out 2.6ltr per min and are cheap to replace
if and when needed
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Be careful about restricting the flow as this could overwork the over pressure switch. In my experience most pumps that fail prematurely have a knackered op switch because the owner was too tight to buy a flow control.
If your pump fails disconnect the 2 wires to the op switch and join them together. In most cases your pump will magically start working. only it won't cut out if you close the output hose. Seems obvious to me but judging on the number of pumps I have sold where buyers had this problem it isn't obvious to everybody.
do you mean if you use a tap on the pole turning it off to stop the water can damage the pump.?
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Tosh......I got 2 shells of shurflo's where things have broken in them in the past. Do you know whether I could fit a new uk system to inside of it? Thanks in advance ;)
YES YOU CAN, THE FULL UNIT IS AROUND £80 EXCLUDING BATTERY go to
http://www.wintecs.co.uk search under
Shurflo Backpack Sprayer - Pump Kit Assembly
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Just wondered if anyone can help. Bought the wcw backpack and broke the control numpty of and now stuck on the fastest speed emptys in no time. Soon as i saw the control numpty and how it protrudes i thought i must be careful i dont snap it off, anyway it happened lol. A bad design i think, only a few months old but obviously my fault.
Mines done the same m8 after a week. Cost me £22 to replace flow switch.
Going to put a kitchen cupboard handle over it to act as a bumper . (seen speed switches on e bay for £3 for model railways does anyone have any idea if these work for back packs,)
Do you have links for those speed switches? (Cheap £3 ones,also the £22 replacement one please)
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You can get a Shurflo backpack from Daqua for £192+vat
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Just wondered if anyone can help. Bought the wcw backpack and broke the control numpty of and now stuck on the fastest speed emptys in no time. Soon as i saw the control numpty and how it protrudes i thought i must be careful i dont snap it off, anyway it happened lol. A bad design i think, only a few months old but obviously my fault.
Had the same problem. BUT if you call Craig at POLARBRITE he has sorted the problem & at very little cost. He has come up with a great little bit of kit, got mine off him this morning.... PROBLEM SORTED ;)
HOPE THIS HELPS ;D http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/
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Many thanks ladder monkey appreciated. Ill get in touch with him. Great forum this i started 3 years ago, had a lot of help off this forum even if it is the dark side lol.
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Many thanks ladder monkey appreciated. Ill get in touch with him. Great forum this i started 3 years ago, had a lot of help off this forum even if it is the dark side lol.
hahaha i know what you mean pikeman ;D I will help out where i can. but i know nothing to what alot of these guys on here do. All the best with it tho m8 ;)
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I'm glad it's sorted the problem for you Paul..
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I'm glad it's sorted the problem for you Paul..
its such a simple idea m8, but then again all the good one's are. Thanks Craig ;D