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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mci services on March 27, 2011, 11:26:33 pm

Title: shop fronts wfp
Post by: mci services on March 27, 2011, 11:26:33 pm
Do you guys do your shop fronts wfp?

I can't see the point myself even though I use wfp day in day out. But I know a local window cleaner that is about to lose a small contract because he will not do the shop windows trad, I can understand him doing the sign etc wfp but the plates on the front aren't even high enough to need a trad pole.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: bad trippy on March 27, 2011, 11:41:52 pm
i always wfp mine stu
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: mci services on March 27, 2011, 11:51:31 pm
i always wfp mine stu

are you doing them early enough so they are dry by the time the shop opens? were they ok during the cold when the ground became an ice rink? isn't easier just to do them trad?
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Ste M on March 27, 2011, 11:56:47 pm
any comercial windows that i do where hands will touch the glass i always clean trad, i find the wfp will not always get the finger or hand marks off
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: mci services on March 28, 2011, 12:04:47 am
any comercial windows that i do where hands will touch the glass i always clean trad, i find the wfp will not always get the finger or hand marks off

yes same here ste m

I just find it strange he must be the only window cleaner in the area that insists on it being done wfp, but then again I have seen him working trad on insides and he is dreadfully slow. I am just trying to make make my mind up if the customer is overly fussy or if they have a point. If you get my drift. I am certainly at this point with the customer.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on March 28, 2011, 12:27:40 am
My opinion is that shops should be done trad (lower levels / where safe)

Im not an old school window cleaner (been going 2 years begining of next month)... i just think it gives the business a better impression to their customers and thats why they want a window cleaner.

I clean a chippy weekly I trad the windows & customer entrance and wfp the canopy & upvc side door. I also clean their house and wfp the lot there.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Frankybadboy on March 28, 2011, 07:24:42 am
with the amount of shops i do,then it easier todo them by trad,.do use wfp on signs but only 1st thing in morning when noones about.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Rob Knapman on March 28, 2011, 08:40:49 am
Trad all mine apart from one large front(Wilkinsons), wouldnt want to do them all wfp it would probably take longer
and wouldnt get hand marks/sick/kebab/chips etc off without detergent imho, also I wouldnt want to be flooding doorways with lots of water....
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 28, 2011, 09:21:30 am
I do very little of this type of work but I tend to do it trad.  There is one that is a sort of shop/trade counter.  I do this on Saturdays when it is closed.  I use WFP and it's fine.  However, the area where the water lands isn't a public walkway.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: SPE on March 28, 2011, 09:48:30 am
In the main I think its more time consuming using wfp plus the hassle to public / leaving floor and doorways wet etc.
I only have one shop that I've started doing wfp, reason being it has one high awkwardly shaped window that would always look streaky in bright sunlight (but perhaps this has more to do with my tecnique with a squegee on a pole)
however its done fortnightly and now its spring its a very early morning one.
From the public point of view I also think wfp on low level shop windows probably looks a bit excessive / lazy and wasteful of water but on the plus you may get asked "how high does that thing reach mate ? have you got a card ? "  :D
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 28, 2011, 03:31:29 pm
defo trad n i do loadsa shops ;) ;)
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: richardlingard on March 28, 2011, 03:36:16 pm
im traditional but i know a window cleaner in Darras hall who is wfp and he does all the shop windows traditional and they look really great when he has finished and i don't think it takes him very long
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: mci services on March 28, 2011, 03:52:21 pm
Yes I do all my shops trad as well, I just wondered if it was across the board as it seems to me this guy is being a bit stubborn not trading this shop as the owner is requesting.

But each to there own I suppose.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: LWC on March 28, 2011, 05:04:52 pm
I trad my shops to, if anything its faster! I can park up grab my bucket and take a walk into town, some places i couldnt get to with car so wfp would be a waste of time.

Ive been doing this 10 years now, and went wfp 5 years ago, i was a die hard WFP'er when i started with it but after alot of experience now i think wfp is just another tool, ill do either, just not off a ladder. Ill do which ever is faster, and besides, everyone know trad is better than wfp.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 28, 2011, 05:20:54 pm
TRAD mine and everyone i know on a personal level round my way trad shops too and they all have wfp.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Llaaww on March 28, 2011, 05:31:44 pm
it is quicker to trad most of mine, but some get wfp.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: bobby p on March 28, 2011, 06:02:24 pm
while ago i saw a guy in waders doing the seafront arcades glass fronts  WFP and i was surprised as there must be loads of kids fingerprints,electric kiddie rides near doors 

 however ,i recently have been cleaning  "the duchesses" home who owns the arcades and maybe will eventually land the arcades myself,trad
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: Dean Taberner on March 28, 2011, 06:42:44 pm
We do around 250 shops a week and wfp 2 of them due to awkwardness. The rest get the trad treatment.
Title: Re: shop fronts wfp
Post by: RAHomeServices on March 28, 2011, 06:59:52 pm
All shops done trad. Signage wfp