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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: RO-Sheen on March 21, 2011, 10:18:43 pm

Title: I'm not very happy with you guys..........
Post by: RO-Sheen on March 21, 2011, 10:18:43 pm
..........for not telling me how good EZ-snap connectors are!!
 After 5 years of using hose-lock connectors I fitted some EZ-snaps I got from Gardners over the weekend. First day today with them and they are so good, robust and connect/disconnect so easy.
I wish I had made the cahnge years ago!
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 21, 2011, 10:22:45 pm
could have told you
ad you asked  ;D ;D
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Post by: mark dew on March 21, 2011, 10:25:22 pm
I agree. But what i find is better if changing poles alot is to keep the connectors closed and just pull the hose off the end.
The ez-snap connectors i'm using now have lasted me a year and a half. The previous longest time they have lasted me is about 4/5 months before they wouldn't disconnect anymore.
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Post by: RO-Sheen on March 21, 2011, 10:31:51 pm
Mark - not sure what you mean? Am I right in saying that you do not disconnect the male and female but just pull the male out of the pole and hose?
If so, it wont work for me cos the connectors are held tightly in with O clips and anyway the pole hose is so stiff I need to put it into hot water to soften in when putting it all together.
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Post by: mark dew on March 21, 2011, 10:35:36 pm
Yes that's what i'm saying.
I used to use o clips but cut them off. The pole hose is the hose that gardiners use for their poles.
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Post by: richard jagger on March 21, 2011, 10:36:13 pm
THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE EASY SNAP AND RECTUS 19 AND 21 IS THEY ARE MADE FOR AIR LINES SO WITH TIME THE GET DIRT IN AND ALSO RUST SO ONES NEED TO FLUSH WITH  WATER TO GET THE DIRT OUT AND LUBE WELL WITH A SPRAY OIL OR LIQUID SILICONE.
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Post by: Lee GLS on March 21, 2011, 10:39:26 pm
THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE EASY SNAP AND RECTUS 19 AND 21 IS THEY ARE MADE FOR AIR LINES SO WITH TIME THE GET DIRT IN AND ALSO RUST SO ONES NEED TO FLUSH WITH  WATER TO GET THE DIRT OUT AND LUBE WELL WITH A SPRAY OIL OR LIQUID SILICONE.

They don't rust. They arnt made from steel
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Post by: Klean07 on March 21, 2011, 10:47:28 pm
I changed mine over about 6 months ago. Which I must admit are 10 times better than hoselock ones. However for some unknown reason after about 3 months they no longer work as good. When I'm pushing male into female it just doesn't connect. Pretty frustrating really. This is when I put new ones in. Problem solved for time being anyway.
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Post by: prestige cleaners on March 22, 2011, 12:04:27 am
Yeah mine only last about 6 months
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Post by: Dave Anderson on March 22, 2011, 07:19:16 am
Protect the fitting with a tennis ball ...they will last and function much, much longer.
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Post by: dazmond on March 22, 2011, 07:25:25 am
use a bit of WD40 on em!!they do seize up after a while though.


ive only ever used rectus 21 connectors with 5 mm extension hose.only had to change one in 10 months.


dazmond
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Post by: dazmond on March 22, 2011, 07:31:24 am
mark why would you faff about pulling the connector off the hose?dont understand why you would do that!!i use jubilee clips not o rings.also if you keep pulling the hose off how do you keep a good tight connection if you have no o rings/jubilee clips?
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Post by: Smudger on March 22, 2011, 07:47:36 am
some of the connectors have small ball bearings inside that can rust (depends on the quality of the fitting)
and as previously stated they are intended for airlines in a non contact inviroment so being thrashed about
the streets they do tend to get hammered, that said they are a great connector.

as mark i don't use jubilee or o clips on my pole but i don't pull the hose off - i use the connector!
constantly pulling the hose on/off will stretch it and then start popping off on it's own.


Darran
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Post by: dazmond on March 22, 2011, 07:59:18 am
darran how can you have a tight fit without anything to hold the connector on to the hose?
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Post by: mark dew on March 22, 2011, 08:05:20 am
Have outgrown jubilee and o clips.
The hose doesn't leak. Some old hose used to after awhile but just snip 1/2 inch off the hose for a new tight connection.
Haven't snipped the newer yellow hose yet. Is still a tight fit.
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Post by: Pj on March 22, 2011, 08:22:05 am
Mine last about 3 or 4 months then they start to drip drip drip, eventually I just cut them off throw away and put new ones on. 
I struggled for a couple of years trying to save costs by just making them last or just replacing the female but now I replace the whole lot.  No leaks.
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Post by: Perfect Windows on March 22, 2011, 02:41:36 pm
Mine last about 3 or 4 months then they start to drip drip drip, eventually I just cut them off throw away and put new ones on. 
I struggled for a couple of years trying to save costs by just making them last or just replacing the female but now I replace the whole lot.  No leaks.

I'm with you on this.  They are just a small running cost for the business.  The cost of replacing them immediately they start showing problems is easily offset by the time you save on every job when they are working fine.

That concept will go down like a lead balloon...people on here would rather spend five mintes extra on every job to save £5 a quarter.

Vin
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Post by: Smart Carpet on March 22, 2011, 04:10:37 pm
Make sure the connectors you are getting are genuine rectus fittings with the brand name engraved on the side..

I remember Gardiners telling me that it's the inferior chinese copies which do not last.

I have been using genuine fittings for some time without trouble now.  :)
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Post by: PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd on March 22, 2011, 06:48:26 pm
i get mine cheap off ebay
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Post by: dave.e on March 22, 2011, 07:51:43 pm
http://quickcouplings.net/osc/product_info.php?cPath=21_27&products_id=305

these are the ones i use
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Post by: Smudger on March 22, 2011, 08:19:01 pm
Dazmond - basically i heat shrink then on - warm the hose so slightly supple, insert hosetail and then apply a flame (lighter is perfect) and heat until hose is very soft ( too much and it will go britle ) squeeze the hose around the hosetail and dip into cold water - the hose will form around the barbs and not pull off under normal working conditions

Darran
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Post by: david thomas on March 22, 2011, 08:40:38 pm
On the American web sight which valves do you recomend
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Post by: mark dew on March 22, 2011, 09:40:55 pm
Mine last about 3 or 4 months then they start to drip drip drip, eventually I just cut them off throw away and put new ones on.  
I struggled for a couple of years trying to save costs by just making them last or just replacing the female but now I replace the whole lot.  No leaks.

I'm with you on this.  They are just a small running cost for the business.  The cost of replacing them immediately they start showing problems is easily offset by the time you save on every job when they are working fine.

That concept will go down like a lead balloon...people on here would rather spend five mintes extra on every job to save £5 a quarter.

Vin

I stopped replacing them because it is easier to pull the pole hose off the end and snip  1/2 inch off every 6 months.
I used those protekta balls and the hose seemed to catch on everything.
This is the most efficient way i've found of swapping poles over. It wasn't about the cost, it was about speed.
I haven't tried tennis balls though.
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Post by: jouk45 on March 23, 2011, 02:25:23 am
i must be years ahead of all you guys, again i will  i will show you all what i changed over to, they are called medical connectors, this video was shown here over 2 years ago, i still have the same connector to this day, ultralite, very strong, almost unbreakable, i really did think, all would have been converted by now,
click on pic to see the connectors in action
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/th_26401646.jpg) (http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/?action=view&current=26401646.mp4)
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Post by: Pure Glass on March 23, 2011, 08:20:49 am
Do you need to protect that fitting, ie tennis ball?

Ps-you gotta start going to bed earlier mate jouk45  ;D
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Post by: Perfect Windows on March 23, 2011, 06:56:24 pm
i must be years ahead of all you guys, again i will  i will show you all what i changed over to, they are called medical connectors, this video was shown here over 2 years ago, i still have the same connector to this day, ultralite, very strong, almost unbreakable, i really did think, all would have been converted by now,
click on pic to see the connectors in action
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/th_26401646.jpg) (http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/?action=view&current=26401646.mp4)

Jouk,

Always open to new ideas - where did you get these, please?

Thanks,

Vin
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Post by: Perfect Windows on April 16, 2011, 06:39:32 pm
Bump for Jouk to answer if possible.

Vin
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Post by: darragh windows on April 16, 2011, 09:07:23 pm
tom parker ltd

I seen jocks picks when he put them up and have had the same medical connection on since then would not entertain airline or rectus 21 connections these are cheaper lighter and easily outlast any metal connections with no metal parts to rust or corrode
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Post by: darragh windows on April 16, 2011, 09:18:04 pm
better picture of the male and female connections
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Post by: richard jagger on April 16, 2011, 10:09:21 pm
Lee mate, Sorry  I have tail end for the rectus 19 that have rusted.The rust flakes come of a jammed the female unit.
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Post by: Perfect Windows on April 16, 2011, 10:37:54 pm
tom parker ltd

I seen jocks picks when he put them up and have had the same medical connection on since then would not entertain airline or rectus 21 connections these are cheaper lighter and easily outlast any metal connections with no metal parts to rust or corrode

Thanks for the lead: Do you know which of the zillion connectors on there it is that he uses?

Vin
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Post by: darragh windows on April 17, 2011, 09:40:56 am
Type I'n apc acetal I'n their search bar and you will come across them
The cheaper ones without the stop valve are better I'n my opinion
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Post by: Perfect Windows on April 17, 2011, 11:06:40 am
Type I'n apc acetal I'n their search bar and you will come across them
The cheaper ones without the stop valve are better I'n my opinion

Thanks; that's certainly got me in the right area.  Now I just need to work out the options..

I'm going to give them a try then I'll report back on success or failure.

Vin