Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Moderator David@stives on March 19, 2011, 11:56:26 pm
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Anyone here work out of a Bipper ?
If so what tank have you got ?
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i love the look of those vans not sure about using them for wfp though, when i went to the dealer they told me the 610 payload don't include driver or fuel,
drive and fuel is about - 130kg
350ltr tank and water - 380kg
bucket and tools - 10kg
ladder - 100kg
water pump& poles - 5kg
total - 625kg
i know the weight are i bit of but overall i think you nwould be close to or over the payload :-[
if im wrong please tell me because im a one man band and really lake the van :D
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interesting as been looking at one of these ... 610KG payload in such a small van. rekon u could poss get a 400 litre in there even if mounted lengthways ??
most days 400 litres be enough for me (and a few spare 25l barrels in footwell ;))
cheap van and about 45 / 50 mpg i seem to recall
post office have hundreds of em around here - North Wales
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i love the look of those vans not sure about using them for wfp though, when i went to the dealer they told me the 610 payload don't include driver or fuel,
drive and fuel is about - 130kg
350ltr tank and water - 380kg
bucket and tools - 10kg
ladder - 100kg
water pump& poles - 5kg
total - 625kg
i know the weight are i bit of but overall i think you nwould be close to or over the payload :-[
if im wrong please tell me because im a one man band and really lake the van :D
do u need proper ladders daily cos those telescopic ladders would save u weight if u just need them 4 access purposes ?
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100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol
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i did say the weights are out but im sure the 610 payload isnt enough for a wfp setup
i have thougt about renting one for a day fill it up with all the stuff needed and take it to a weigh bridge
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Lol yeh i know but imagine carrying 4 barrels over your shoulder ;D
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610kg should be enough I think for a one man set up.
Did the maths on this last week for the financial side ... you can lease 1 of these for about £180 + VAT with 3 payments up front. fuel saving against my transit would be approx £80 a month at todays prices.
£216 a month rental inc vat
less £45 a month in tax claimable (25% of £180) @100% qualifying pre vat rental.
£216 becomes £171 less £80 fuel saving becomes £91 divide by 4.33333 weeks becomes £21 a week for a new van ....... think I just sold myself a new bipper van .... btw I used to sell cars ... can you guess ;D
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100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol
i think it's including the roof rack which can be very heavy.
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100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol
That`s what I thought! ;D Is that with you on them?
You are looking at 15- 20kg for a ladder.
Good work, Ian 101.
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oh and about £2000 cash back on transit as worth more than the deposit
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100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol
i think it's including the roof rack which can be very heavy.
Even with roof rack it wouldnt be that much! I think some of you guys need to get down the gym ;D
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i too really like the look of the bipper,as a trad wagon. HOWEVER ,last week a bipper pulled up at a junction near where i was up a ladder and it suddenly revved up TO THE MAX and stuck there screaming ! (maybe an electrical fault ?) . this put me off a bit :-\
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we nearly bought one - but went with the partner in the end
i think the bipper is just a little too small imo .... ok you can get the tank and hose reel in there but thats it .... no room for those days when the other bits n bobs are needed
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I rented one when my combo was at repairs.
Couldn't fit a 350l flat tank as it was plylined.
My 21ft xtel pole didn't go inside as there was bulkhead.
But it's a very nippy and economical van,feels more like a small car.
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oh and about £2000 cash back on transit as worth more than the deposit
Don't forget the balloon rental and the peppercorn tho' Ian!
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You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.
Lots more room & a higher payload!
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You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.
Lots more room & a higher payload!
That must be the smallest turbo diesel engine,wonder if it pulls ok loaded at full payload.
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oh and about £2000 cash back on transit as worth more than the deposit
Don't forget the balloon rental and the peppercorn tho' Ian!
very true but if i get to a level of new van just trade it in for a new un ... if baloon / residual set correctly should always be enough equity left in van after baloon / resdidual cleared.
one thing to bear in mind that unlike PCP or Personal Contract Plan for private individual (PCP = Ford Options or Peugeot Passport or Toyota Terms etc etc they all have a scheme called summit different) the MGFV (minimum guaranteed future value) IS NOT GURANTEED ON A LEASE (it is on a PCP subject to miles being as declared when 1st taking out the plan)
eg if baloon on van set as £2500 for and worth £3200 at trade in time then the other £700 goes towards deposit on next van. ... if u have wrecked van and does loads of miles then basically it aint worth the baloon and ur donald ducked ;D
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You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.
Lots more room & a higher payload!
That must be the smallest turbo diesel engine,wonder if it pulls ok loaded at full payload.
I've had mine from new for over four years with a 400L tank and it's fine.
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You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.
Lots more room & a higher payload!
i have one and i can hardly get 45-50mpg.i have a 400l tank but never full maybe 300-350l at a push.i also have a double and single pointer all the time on the roof rack .i usually work with my brother but together have about 140-150 kg. and still don't get more than 40 mpg.next step is to change the oil with a high quality one.i changed the fuel filter recently and made a slight difference.
o and by the way my road tax went from £185 last year to £200 for the next year.why is that for such a small engine and quite newish?my 2001 skoba fabia 1.9 diesel road tax went from £110 to £90.doesn't make any sense to me
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All down to the year it was born. My Toyota Hiace with 2.5 engine only costs me £125 if I remember correctly. ;D
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OK CCS.
My Doblo is the 1.3 registered in Nov 2006. It's road tax is £125 but the numpty govt changed it for those after 1st Jan 2007 to £185/200. But the very latest '10 and later is cheap again. It's down to euro 4/5 emissions and all that guff. My Pug 406 estate 2.0 diesel on a 2001 plate is £125 - my mate's 2000 one is £185!
I don't have a roof rack or ladders but brim my 400L tank every day.
When I work local and hardly move the van I get 40 mpg. When I work ten miles away with a country drive each way I get 50 mpg. Overall it's about 43/45.
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i love the look of those vans not sure about using them for wfp though, when i went to the dealer they told me the 610 payload don't include driver or fuel,
drive and fuel is about - 130kg
350ltr tank and water - 380kg
bucket and tools - 10kg
ladder - 100kg
water pump& poles - 5kg
total - 625kg
i know the weight are i bit of but overall i think you nwould be close to or over the payload :-[
if im wrong please tell me because im a one man band and really lake the van :D
But how many guys successfully use/used the Peugeot Partner 600 / Citroen Berlingo 600 with 400 litres tanks in the back? Too small for me but works for many out there.
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Drove a Bipper, terrible and very tinney, cheap feel , we have a Berlingo, which is superb compared to the Bipper, imo, but the best is Fiat Doblo 1.6 with a 1 ton payload and can fit all poles inside and drive like a car as based on new Punto. Six speed box and same over 55 mpg fuel economy. If you are not diving them, lease the Bipper
idealrob
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You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.
Lots more room & a higher payload!
That must be the smallest turbo diesel engine,wonder if it pulls ok loaded at full payload.
It's actually a 1250cc TD ;D
The pulling power was my first concern when I got it. I was shocked at just how good that engine is! Even fully loaded.
I'd have another fiat like a shot, no problem. ;)