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Title: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on March 12, 2011, 05:39:45 pm

Hi all

Been doing lots of upholstery lately would a cfr hand tool be any advantage?
I have a prochem porty if that makes any difference and have been using auto detailer so far but I do find this messy with the overspray.

any advice welcome

cheers
cheesey

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: David_Annable on March 12, 2011, 06:07:20 pm

Hi

Dont they need 200psi ish to work properly?

What psi is your pump?

Dave

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Carpet Dawg on March 12, 2011, 06:24:34 pm

Yes buy one they are awesome!

I presume you have a 120psi pump? I usualy clean upholstery at 150psi and so yeah 120psi is more than enough. Some people on here have said they clean upholstery at about 100psi

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Paul Simpson on March 12, 2011, 07:05:21 pm

Agree with Carpet dawg, definately worth the investment, especially if your doing a lot of upholstery, couldn't believe the improvment when I got mine about 3 years ago and I went from similar, auto detailer.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on March 12, 2011, 07:46:23 pm

psi not too sure maybe 120 or 100 ?

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on March 12, 2011, 08:03:52 pm

could my steempro powerplus be upgraded to a 500 psi pump? any ideas on cost?

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 12, 2011, 08:26:05 pm

I would say it's the best tool I have bought, mine is 8 years old and it works as well as the day I got it just had new seals that's all, I use mine at 300psi and it just knocks the dirt out and I leave upholstery virtually dry.

Shaun

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: mark shannon on March 12, 2011, 08:35:27 pm

Yeah same as Shaun 300psi great tool and the heads are a lifetime buy.

If its the standard steempro I have been advised not enough room for anything over 135psi.

mark

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Andy Hogarth on March 12, 2011, 08:47:01 pm

DO
 ;D ;D

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Darren O on March 12, 2011, 09:28:07 pm

They are fine to use with a steempro just put a bigger jet in the cfr hand tool

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: carpet_care on March 12, 2011, 09:40:49 pm

I,ve got 2 of these they are a great bit of kit but i tend to go through a lot of repair kits whether i use it at 130 psi with the portie or 300 psi with the truck mount >:(

 They have told me i might be better getting the whole valve next time instead of just the plunger and spring.


 Andy Locke.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on March 12, 2011, 11:19:30 pm

ok i'm gonna get one any advice on which size and what nozzles to get?
 cheers guys keep the answers coming

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on March 12, 2011, 11:21:14 pm

oh and wheres the best place to purchase ...  ;D

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Carpet Dawg on March 13, 2011, 01:56:16 am

The only place i'm aware of that sell it is Amtech http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/CFR_Upholstery_Hand_Tools-cid-62-1.html

There's the 3" and there's a 5". The 5 will cover bigger areas quicker but tricker on fiddley bits.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: james roffey on March 13, 2011, 10:18:05 am

The nozzle is a good price but i presume you also need the extra bits that cost the same again.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Andy Hogarth on March 13, 2011, 10:20:04 am

I've got the 5" but like carpet dawg says it can be a bit fiddly, doable as you just cover the excess with your finger and cover areas really quickly but a 3" is on my list of things to buy

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: garry22 on March 13, 2011, 10:25:51 am

As per the others. It's a no brainer. I've used them since 1997.

I used mine with a 100 psi (old Hydromist) and it was still better than previous tools. You will need a CFR hose set (the trigger is built into the hose, although they do a 5' connector to cover this.

Once however, you move up to 200psi+ you will notice a huge difference.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: JandS on March 13, 2011, 12:38:23 pm

Is this tool the same as the drimaster.

John

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Mike_Roper on March 13, 2011, 12:57:59 pm

If you can affor it get the 3 and 5 inch heads. Also are you aware of the different jet sizes as ts useful to have a choice.
Mike

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Phillip Mold on March 13, 2011, 01:40:59 pm

Get one from cleansmart in Nottingham, if you don't like it you can send it back for a refund, but you won't send it back.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: JandS on March 13, 2011, 03:44:54 pm

Can't find them on Cleansmart.

John

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Joe H on March 13, 2011, 03:55:25 pm

Not sure that Matt at Cleansmart will deal with CFR anymore - machines or tools.

http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/CFR_Upholstery_Hand_Tools-cid-62-1.html

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: ryan mca on March 13, 2011, 05:19:19 pm

cleansmart cant get supplies from amtech anymore you could try the big clean, cleaning systems uk or
direct from amtech mine should be hear tomorrow as missed the couriour on friday going to try it
on thursday with 100psi steampro amtech advised no 2 nozzle @ 100psi  10% discount and free
deliver from amtech

Ryan

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: JandS on March 13, 2011, 05:45:07 pm

How does it compare to the drymaster tool.
Apart from price of course.
Love my drymaster tool.

John.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: colin thomas on March 13, 2011, 07:10:57 pm

john, someone has to.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: David_Annable on March 14, 2011, 08:37:11 am

Hi

There is another one Cleansmart sell it, like a drymaster but with a trigger.

Dave

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: JandS on March 14, 2011, 10:29:16 am

Apart from the price what's wrong with the Colin?
They make cleaning u/h a breeze.

John

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: Jamie Pearson on March 16, 2011, 08:46:34 am

The CFR spotting machine now comes with the 3" CFR tool as standard replacing the previous plastic detailed tool.

Not sure what rating the solution line is. I am sure Dave or Karl @ Amtech can tell you.

It certainly adds value to this little machine. I have used the spotter machine to clean pieces of upholstery during training sessions and it works as well as larger machines for this tasks with the method I use/teach.

Title: Re: do I or dont I buy a cfr handtool
Post by: ryan mca on March 17, 2011, 06:03:59 pm

used 5" cfr for the first time today I found it a bit heavy compared with the prochem
I was using but what a differance well worth the money even with 100psi still did
the job really well  need to upgrade machine

so the answer is to buy