Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: drive surgeon on March 12, 2011, 02:00:39 pm
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hi guys, do you notice any differance in turbo nozzles? been getting mine from tech clean lately but im not convinced. instead of a nice conical shape from them they seem to be what i descirbe as a vibrating cone and dont seem as powerfull. its not the filter blocked as i have checked. and when using im suffering from a lot of vibrations. yet when i put the spray fan lance on there is hardly any vibrations. so it must be the type of turbos im ggetting cos i never used to suffer this bad with aching right arm and numb hand? they are only about £40 i think. has anyone else noticed the same thing? or can you recommend the top of the range model? rather pay the extra than suffer and get white finger etc. ???
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are these the small red ones from tech clean ? if so not had problem with them but have to clean in line filter after each job to keep optimal performance. they used to do a larger black one which was very good.
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well one of them is a red one and one is blue. the old black one never had so much vibration in the lance. i have cleared the filters in both so it cant be blockages and the blue one is new. ???
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i would like to see a fsc with turbo nozzles fitted
regards john
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i wonder if its something to with the cone inside the head? im not sure if i can take these apart tho. without a vice anyway.
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Hi DS,
I have taken the filters out of my turbo lances as are a pain in the arse (not sure if this is ok) but have both been ok so far (touch wood) ;)
Regards
Alan
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Turbos's need to be matched to your pump. It's not always the case of any will work right with any pump.
Also open up the nozzle and check if the ceramic isn't chipped.
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any & all nozzles should be matched to pressure flow rate and most importantly to what you wash
regards john
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yeah i know all that guys thanks. my pump is 15 litres a minute i have been told by malcleanse and dual pumps that i need to use 04 turbo nozzles. im sure jan would have sent me the right ones as its her machine i use. but im not happy with them. too much vibration, loss of pressure, not a smooth cone shape with them.
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any & all nozzles should be matched to pressure flow rate and most importantly to what you wash
regards john
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yeah i know all that guys thanks. my pump is 15 litres a minute i have been told by malcleanse and dual pumps that i need to use 04 turbo nozzles. im sure jan would have sent me the right ones as its her machine i use. but im not happy with them. too much vibration, loss of pressure, not a smooth cone shape with them.
Get your pump checked then.
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if you are not happy your work wont be good this season has just started so get your self & equipment sorted dont let the side down i can only speak fom buying from dual pumps they have massive stocks if the have not got it they can get it if its there as blastAway says there could be a chip or flaw in the ceramic the eye cant see
regards john
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any part of your equipment could of been damaged by frost DONT use ptf tape on any threads USE loctite
regards john
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its a brand new machine. and the whirlaway and fan lance work fine.
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well throw that turbo nozzle away you should have a new nozzle by now from when you first noticed it dont you carry spares
regards john
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well throw that turbo nozzle away you should have a new nozzle by now from when you first noticed it dont you carry spares
regards john
John
Got some new heavy duty turbo nozzle heads coming in on thursday giz a ring .05 and 055 nozzle sizes to fit my 2 machines
Steve
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DS if you've got a problem with the gear Tech clean have supplied take it up with them. Turbo nozzles are consumables just like broom heads and handles - you know where I'm coming from. Last year it was the unloaders you were moaning about - why do you have to have an autopsy on everything before you dip your hand into your wallet and buy essentials of your trade ? Buy yourself a new broom ::)
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i have only my broom for "thirty years" still as good as the day i bought it
only had 8 heads & 6 handles
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJO99bFGQ8
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hi bdcs nearly as good fork handles or was it four candles 2ronnies
regards john
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i have spares and they are the same. got my new one from dual pumps and its miles better. much more power and a nicer cone. will send the others back. also the lance vibration is prob cos the new lances dont come with a handle for the left hand so your left hand is just holding the metal or plastic which does vibrate.
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I use a twin barrel lance with the low pressure on one and the high pressure one has a small QR which I change to each nozzle including the turbo. If the vibration is a problem on the lance valve put a foam grip on it. Try changing hands regularly. If you do it Sat and Sunday you'll have a weekend ;D
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hi bdcs was thae one for the weekend "sir"
regards john
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BDCS,
Would you reccomend those twin lances? is the one you use an adjustable one? where yu can adjust the pressure of one of the lances?
Never really used them when i worked in lndon, but up here i need to walk back to the machine if i need to change the pressure and can be a pain if the van is parked out on the street.
cheers,
Matt
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I use the low pressure side to rinse doors and windows, the high pressure side has the QR so you can change the nozzles by just shutting the trigger. If you have seperate guns fit a valve on the end of the hose next to the QR so you don't have to go back to the machine.
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hi mat you could fit a "twin manifold" unit between lance and nozzles so that you have two different tools for one job at the fick of a wrist no need to go to power unit
regards john
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John,
Yeah ive seen the lance with like, twin end/one gun, and ones adjustable, so you can have any pressure with the turn of a handle, and the other side is always full pressure. is that what you mean? or are you talking some kinda custom job?
Cheers
Matt
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No just a stock gun - you open the valve on the side to allow some flow out on the low pressure side, this also allows the chemical pick up if you use that
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hi mat the thing i know as a "manifold" is the size of "chicken fruit" a threaded hole one end that screws into the lance the other end of the said thing two Y angled threaded holes that you screw two nozzles into one a pressure nozzle & one a flood nozzle both DONT work together there is a ball bearing between these two threaded holes when you pressurise the what ever its "called" the bearing blocks one hole which enables you to wash and rinse at the press of a trigger
ps this made sense to me if it didnt you tuff i am not going thro it again
regards john
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or as in dual pumps 07/08 catalogue page 103 part no art23001500
regards john
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John, yeah i know what your talking about.
I was talking more about this kind of thing, with a flow control built into the lance. you used one of these? anyone?
http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/Twin-Lances/660mm-STAINLESS-STEEL-Twin-Lance-ART280
Matt
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hi mat got two something like those one gives a letter box tubo pattern one gives "D"turbo pattern both got throw a lever instant flood or rinse modes got them from a dealer who wanted to clear them suposed to be rated at 350 bar as i am only 200bar i dont think i get max result from them so they sit on the shelf for maybe when time
regards john
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aint no id markings on them any where totaly moulded heads on them so any repairs are a nono
was told they were karcher preproduction stock look to good for karcher so who knows as karcher has no record of them but said they would do me a "favour" and take them off my hands
regards john