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Title: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: dave f on March 11, 2011, 07:26:07 am
over the years ive lost count of how many flyers posted loads of different shapes sizes etc i personaly i think they  think its just junk mail which it is and pop it in the bin i think one one time i did over 500 not one custy ive since the done over 1.000no replys. classic example yesterday ive been keeping my eye on afew new builds i finished earley just poped round and got 2 just by cavasing face to face one of the custys said we have already had to 2 flyers already but jus bined em we like to know who we are dealing whith, etc i think face to face is more productve in my opinion plus cheaper ;D
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: C.C.S. on March 11, 2011, 07:48:04 am
it depends on the person some are shy some want to see a face.so i think both and canvasing  have their place i personally use leaflets.lately i started posting to neighbors of the houses i already do .2 days after i posted i receive a call from the next door of the house i did.
i have 60000 leaflets to be delivered in the next few months .it's the royal mail type of leaflet.we'll see what happens .this week i think i had enquirers from every form of advertising i do.one from seeing me working and got my email address ,one googled window cleaning and i was on top 5,one from a magazine i have an advert and one from some leaflets i delivered months ago.so they all work it's just a matter of time   
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Lee GLS on March 11, 2011, 07:49:32 am
I dont think you can beat face to face, especially on new builds where they will be littered with flyers, i think flyers can work if they are dropped in very large quantities.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: LWC on March 11, 2011, 07:55:33 am
Gotta say from the flyers ive dropped ive not had one call. I havent done masses tho, just usually drop a few around in new areas, and i do knock peoples doors.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Scrimble on March 11, 2011, 09:08:49 am
not a waste of time at all, i have a basic flyer design black and white no frills my friend delivers them for me a few hours a day couple of times a week and my phone has been ringing every day, done about 3000 so far and i've got near 400 quids worth of work from them,

as I was typing this reply just had another enquiry from a flyer, anyone want me to email a copy to them i can do, not gonna post it up on here though

they do work you dont need some fancy design like i've seen from one on here recently,
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: jim2011 on March 11, 2011, 09:47:37 am
ive handed out about 2500 flyers in about 3 weeks and so far i have had 34 calls. all monthly work, nice little pay rise.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: dave f on March 11, 2011, 10:22:22 am
i supose it also depends where you are and how many windys they are in your area as i said they aint worked for me realy ???
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Lee GLS on March 11, 2011, 10:30:48 am
not a waste of time at all, i have a basic flyer design black and white no frills my friend delivers them for me a few hours a day couple of times a week and my phone has been ringing every day, done about 3000 so far and i've got near 400 quids worth of work from them,

as I was typing this reply just had another enquiry from a flyer, anyone want me to email a copy to them i can do, not gonna post it up on here though

they do work you dont need some fancy design like i've seen from one on here recently,


could you email me a copy of it? leereedhome@hotmail.com

thanks
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: mark blundell on March 11, 2011, 01:03:19 pm
and me please if you dont mind mark.blundell@hotmail.co.uk

cheers mark
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: C.C.S. on March 11, 2011, 01:16:37 pm
and me please if you dont mind mark.blundell@hotmail.co.uk

cheers mark
me too please
colchester_cleaning_services@yahoo.co.uk
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: jakeandmia on March 11, 2011, 05:18:08 pm
Me too please
wayne.warmington@ntlworld.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Martin-Swinscoe on March 11, 2011, 05:31:20 pm
and me please

MJSwindowcleaner@aol.com

Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Steve Sed on March 11, 2011, 05:33:10 pm
I dropped around 1,000 this week and have picked up 9 new customers to date from them.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: richardlingard on March 11, 2011, 05:40:08 pm
flyers are best always if you return a few days later and knock on the door refering to the flyer
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: LSB on March 11, 2011, 06:02:53 pm
im also currently leafleting , so plese send me a copy aswell ,

lloyd.birchley@hotmail.co.uk       many thanks ,  lloyd .
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Scrimble on March 11, 2011, 06:05:45 pm
emails sent
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Klean07 on March 11, 2011, 06:49:02 pm
Could you send one to me as well please?
mazdaman58@yahoo.co.uk
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: mileslake on March 11, 2011, 06:52:46 pm
I have a photo of myself on all my leaflets/magazine adverts. . Works for me
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: sf on March 12, 2011, 08:00:46 pm
me to please streakfreeclean@yahoo.co.uk
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Sean Dyer on March 12, 2011, 08:09:28 pm
You have started something now mate, you might as well post it up :)

Can have a look too ?

Im getting one designed this week, but some ideas are helpful thanks


dwcs@rocketmail.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on March 12, 2011, 08:31:09 pm
Flyerfs dont generate quick work - knocking does !

The thing about leaflets is that the work trickles in. They are genuine people who i find really want a regular cleaner... yes you get the odd 1 off.

Had an email the other day from a leaflet i pushed through a door 10 months ago.

If you want work now, just knock the doors and leave leaflets if no answer. I've had 6 one off jobs come through this week from my past efforts (lealfleting)
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: andy1975 on March 12, 2011, 09:35:05 pm
i canvassed an area recently and people said i got your flyer and lost it and wanted to phone.i got the job but i didnt send the flyer.i picked up work from someone elses hard work and time.maybe this is naughty but it shows if you leaflet you need to follow up or someone like me only needs to be in the right place at the right time that gets lucky
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: bobby p on March 12, 2011, 09:50:48 pm
i like flyers,ONLY when somebody does delivering them for me . a young buck can deliver a serious raft of them , but the result after varies.    sometimes a dozen phone calls from a 4 hr drop,   sometimes less . but ALWAYS  get jobs from them .
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Ryan Westcombe on March 13, 2011, 10:36:51 am
Would it be possible to take a look at your leaflet? Always looking for new ideas! rgwwindowcleaning@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks!
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Ron Rogers on March 13, 2011, 11:39:57 am
When i am leafleting a large estae where all the houses are the same i use my cheap homemde flyers which have a space for the price and i put the price on them before i post them, cos i think a lot of people cant be bothered to phone for a quote but if they know the price and think its fair they will phone you and you know you got the job and your not running round giving quotes and not getting jobs.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: bobby p on March 13, 2011, 01:28:29 pm
When i am leafleting a large estae where all the houses are the same i use my cheap homemde flyers which have a space for the price and i put the price on them before i post them, cos i think a lot of people cant be bothered to phone for a quote but if they know the price and think its fair they will phone you and you know you got the job and your not running round giving quotes and not getting jobs.
thats a very good idea, but only if its you delivering,not some irk  tossing out random prices !! 
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: bobby p on March 13, 2011, 01:32:20 pm
Would it be possible to take a look at your leaflet? Always looking for new ideas! rgwwindowcleaning@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks!
   not sure if its aimed at me? but my fliers are just  a  6" x2" slip of paper with WINDOW CLEANER ,number and first name on them ,all written with a marker pen. look cheap and cheerful .  towards one end i stick a "star " sticker , buy them in the Range store at about £1 for a 100 stars,quite fancy stars,not basic
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Matt Cornford on March 13, 2011, 07:28:56 pm
When I canvass, I generally only drop flyers on those who are not at home. If they are home and not interested I'd leave them a business card.. This has worked for me, even if its 3 or 4 moths later they call me.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: lcwalker on March 13, 2011, 08:02:09 pm
ive handed out about 2500 flyers in about 3 weeks and so far i have had 34 calls. all monthly work, nice little pay rise.


That is exactly my target hope it works as well for me.

Im delivering tomorrow i have 2500 in the cuboard from my past drops i fine i get 1 to 2 jobs per 100 dropped so if i get 25 ill be happy but if i get 34 like you ill be over the moon as ill have my round where i want it to be.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Londoner on March 14, 2011, 08:10:43 am
im also currently leafleting , so plese send me a copy aswell ,

lloyd.birchley@hotmail.co.uk       many thanks ,  lloyd .

Don't leaflet any of mine Lloyd, I'll leave a chalk cross outside the houses I do.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: adie585 on March 14, 2011, 10:28:35 pm
me too please    apwindowcleaning@hotmail.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Jonny D on March 15, 2011, 07:09:53 am
if your still sending them out al take one aswell please. jonx06@hotmail.co.uk
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: robbie72 on March 15, 2011, 07:24:02 am
if you could email me a copy too please robbie.4.clarke@btinternet.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: K.J.M on March 17, 2011, 03:26:39 pm
Could you send me a copy please just to compare to the 1 ive recently designed mad4itkev@hotmail.com  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Wc Solutions on March 17, 2011, 04:39:21 pm
flyers get you the odd one or two in a few roads but from that you end up getting more work when you are seen working in the road...

little tip - say you have 4 houses in a road, put your flyers in the other houses with a little note attached saying something like join many of your neighbours in recieving our regaular & reliable window cleaning service - then just have a line on it - then just fill in the door numbers you already do.

that should make your round more compact and we all love a good compact round  :D

we have had flyers out since dec10 and got in over 1k of work - to be fair most of it is one off type work - mainly conservatory valet service as some wc dont/cant do it ...
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: dave f on March 17, 2011, 05:03:10 pm
well i think i might have to move to some where flyers are efective up here its a poor do  ;D ;D
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 17, 2011, 05:51:15 pm
Are flyers a waste of time and money?

In a word, no.  They can be marvellously effective.  However, people on here already have their minds made up (for an example, see the name of this thread) so I'll just carry on getting customers cheaply with leaflets.

Vin
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: cozy on March 17, 2011, 06:01:00 pm
Too many things that make a difference. Good flyer or bad flyer. Who picks it up off the mat in the morning etc etc. When I drop flyers, I follow them up within 3 days. I print that we will be calling in the near future to see if they are interested and answer any questions they may have.

Hit rate is fantastic. horses for courses etc? Door knocking is by far the fastest way to build tho IMO.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Scrimble on March 31, 2011, 07:29:28 pm
today i did a commercial clean i priced it up very well and after 3 hours job was done, big office building, was having a coffee and chatting to the manager who got me to do the job and i asked him where he had got my number from, he told me they couldnt get hold of a window cleaner 3 others they asked to quote never bothered to turn up and it turns out the accounts manager had got a flyer of mine and brought it in to work and thats how i got the job,

big commercial job from a basic black and white flyer, got 4 quotes to do from people who work there and seen me cleaning, all from my flyer,

do flyers work? of course they do
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Crystal-clear on March 31, 2011, 08:18:02 pm
emails sent

me too pls lol

crystalclear.inbox@gmail.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Jackal on March 31, 2011, 08:25:47 pm
it does depend on your flyer design aswell i think, i posted an area last year about 2500 leaflets which now i think are a crap design i cant remember how many i picked up now but was about 0.5%,did 1 day this year same area 470 business cards dropped and 6 new custys just off that  ;)
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: KESSA on October 21, 2011, 01:26:38 am
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Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Londoner on October 21, 2011, 07:43:10 am
Jhukjiugojh


What language is that? Don't speak muppet, sorry
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: SB Cleaning on October 21, 2011, 08:11:48 am
Yes please!

Sb.cleaningservices@live.co.uk
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: andyM on October 21, 2011, 08:13:19 am
It seems almost every week there is a question on the forum about flyers.
They do have value and they will get customer enquiries.
But there is no magic design of flyer that will have customers ringing your phone off the hook.
I just view them as one form of promotion alongside other methods.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: mark m on October 21, 2011, 03:21:00 pm
not a waste of time at all, i have a basic flyer design black and white no frills my friend delivers them for me a few hours a day couple of times a week and my phone has been ringing every day, done about 3000 so far and i've got near 400 quids worth of work from them,

as I was typing this reply just had another enquiry from a flyer, anyone want me to email a copy to them i can do, not gonna post it up on here though

they do work you dont need some fancy design like i've seen from one on here recently,

can i have a copy please markmunro009@btinternet.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Afterglow Window Cleaners on October 21, 2011, 07:01:28 pm
Hi,

Could I have a copy too please, afterglow@live.co.uk

Thank you!
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Dean payne on October 21, 2011, 07:09:33 pm
I've put out 500 plus on a afternoon and got no calls then you get a call 2 months after, its hit and miss when I did my home work I was expecting 1-2 percent but it dont always happen. Seems door knocking is the best but I hate that as feel like I'm begging do you know what I mean.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Johnny B on October 21, 2011, 07:56:40 pm
When I canvass, I rely on good old door knocking. I have a batch of flyers with me, which I keep hidden and only hand them out on request. I have dropped leaflets through doors in the past, but in my experience it wasn't profitable.

I am sure it works for some, but not for me. Door knocking may seem like begging, but if you think about it in a positive way, you are offering a service, not asking for money for nothing. 

John. 
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Paddy Woods on October 21, 2011, 08:59:03 pm
How's Kerry going JONNEY B? is w/c much different ? U could also go for president if dosent work out?!
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Johnny B on October 21, 2011, 09:30:05 pm
How's Kerry going JONNEY B? is w/c much different ? U could also go for president if dosent work out?!

The w/c culture here is very different to Blighty. I currently have 101 customers (gained in 11 weeks) although of these, 40 odd are good, regular customers. The others are every 2 months plus, or as and when they contact me for me to clean them! Hence I am still canvassing on the days when I have no work or to replace the 'irregulars'. I will get there, but it is definitely tougher to get a good foothold here. In England, I was practically fighting work off as there was so much of it!  

Hmm, president eh? Do ye reckon that t'Irish voters need another clown to make up the presidential lineup! They're confused enough, methinks. Not having a go at the Irish ... they're brainier than me!  ;D

By the way, where are you based Pod?

John
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: sham33 on October 22, 2011, 08:55:40 am
Can I have a copy as well please.

Thanks
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: johnmeehan on October 22, 2011, 10:05:49 pm
an i have a opy please jackie19462010@hotmail.co.uk thanks
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Smudgeoff Cleaning Services on October 23, 2011, 08:25:17 am
Sorry just spotted it can I also have a copy

info@smudgeoffwindowcleaning.co.uk

thankyou
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: anderclean on October 23, 2011, 09:04:31 am
would like to see your flyer too please mate
windowcleaning@gmx.com
thanks :)
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: pal1962 on October 26, 2011, 09:50:04 pm
Please could i have a copy many thanks phil.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: andrew tapsell on October 26, 2011, 10:10:44 pm
can  i have a look please atapsell@btinternet.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on October 26, 2011, 10:20:49 pm
cant fault a bit of begging   ;D
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: Pro-Poler on October 27, 2011, 12:58:08 pm
not a waste of time at all, i have a basic flyer design black and white no frills my friend delivers them for me a few hours a day couple of times a week and my phone has been ringing every day, done about 3000 so far and i've got near 400 quids worth of work from them,

as I was typing this reply just had another enquiry from a flyer, anyone want me to email a copy to them i can do, not gonna post it up on here though

they do work you dont need some fancy design like i've seen from one on here recently,
ok mate email me please ebarberan@sky.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: P J Taylor on October 27, 2011, 08:06:55 pm
could i get a copy of the flyer please. cheers
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: neil smith on October 27, 2011, 09:57:15 pm
Could I have a copy of the leaflet please.

Thanks,

Neil.
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: lee_dewing on October 27, 2011, 11:31:04 pm
Star M

If your not sick of emailing could i have one pretty please ;)

l.dewing@btinternet.com
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: lee_dewing on October 27, 2011, 11:37:13 pm
Quote
flyers are best always if you return a few days later and knock on the door refering to the flyer

This is what i will try next ;)
Title: Re: are flyers a waste of time and money
Post by: king marko on October 28, 2011, 07:22:45 pm
Can you stick me down for one as well when have time please fella? Markswindowcleaningservices@yahoo.co.uk
Ta