Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jasonl on March 06, 2011, 06:39:40 pm
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This was a gym cleaned with a buffer last night, sorry about the music , it was coming out of the gym P.A .-Helped us to work faster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOND-NSzgFs
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Jason incredible results ;)
What speed rotary?
What chemical and pad?
If you don't mind me asking?
mark
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Cheers , it was a 380 rpm , using Nemisis , went over it again at 90 degrees to the first pass , that video of just over 3 min shows 40m2 being covered!
Got another 700m to do tonight but we are going to use 2 buffers and do it inc vaccing in 5 -6 hours.
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Hi jason looks like you got great results and you will be going back again next year.Question where did you get the sprayer from and if you dont mind how much and do you always clean with half the electric cable still on the machine ,I was told this is wrong as the cable heats up Des
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Looks a good job done so far jason..
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Hi jason looks like you got great results and you will be going back again next year.Question where did you get the sprayer from and if you dont mind how much and do you always clean with half the electric cable still on the machine ,I was told this is wrong as the cable heats up Des
Going back in 12 weeks to do it all again as they want it tip top .
The sprayer is rechargeable from window cleaning warehouse, it has a motorbike battery in it.
Yes the cable could heat up in time , but I find it is safer to have it wrapped up in order to avoid tripping or running over the cable with the machine.
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And the name of that window cleaning warehouse would be what ?
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Very impressive. Its great to see how strong a method this is for cleaning carpets.
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And the name of that window cleaning warehouse would be what ?
It is actually called window cleaning warehouse , the new version is blue , and only 120 plus vat.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/backpacks/view-all-products.html
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Here you go Des
www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/backpacks/wcw-backpack.html?keyword=battery
Shaun
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Thank you both Des
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Well I am sold,going to deffo buy my buffer on the strength of this video !! Before the end of the tax year ;D Nice work
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Good video Jason! Looks like you hardly put down any pre-spray and no dwell time!?
How many more areas of that size (the area that you cleaned in the video) can one pad do without changing?? If someone says 25m2 i dont understnad this as i never measure areas that i clean so crap at sizing up visualy :(
I few things tho:
1. I would watermark the video with your company name and phone number, and also put an intro with your website and phone number.
2. Use a keyword rich title like carpet cleaning Bournemouth or something. Also add some info to the discription and use a few keywords in there too and lastly the tags, carpet cleaning, cleaner, bournemouth etc etc
3. And dont forget to add a link back to your website in the video discription and also on your "about me" section one your profile page.
Tony
p.s. I quite like the sound track! :)
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Good video Jason.
Suprised how much you done without changing the pad over or putting a fresh one into use.
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Nice one Jason. the thing that stood out to me was - what size shoes do you take ?
Mike
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Good video and a great method for good & quick results, just putting a quote together for a 250,000sq foot office block, currently cleaned twice a year. Just working out how much chemical I will use.
idealrob
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Jason,
Nice video.
What type of carpet was it? It looks like low profile, flotex sheet or tiles which would explain your speed across it.
What is the psi of that electric sprayer?
Simon
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Sprayers fantastic charge lasts weeks only ever used it with splitters don't think its viton sealed? Not sure of PSI feels like 100
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Simon bought one at the show this week not sure of pump pressure but flow rate is 3.1L or 0.8 gpm holds 18L Used it today for first time brilliant. £118.99 +
Tony
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Hi Tony,
Does the battery and charger come with it?
Simon
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Yes they do m8
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Hi Tony,
Does the battery and charger come with it?
Simon
The only thing you dont get is a spray wand , I am trying to find a good plastic one with a trigger.
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Jason you do get a wand with them now as long as you tell them when ordering When they get them in they have a wand on but they cut them of as they put a valve on for window cleaners.
Cheers Tony
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A great result jason,have not used that speed rotory as yet anyway but looks easy to controll :)
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Jason
What was the carpet pile?
and what cleaning solution did you use?
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I am trusting you guys about the 12v sprayer - just ordered one.
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Jason.
Good result But! I understood that the correct speed for rotary work on carpets
was 175-220rpm because higher speeds can damage the carpet.
Expro
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Great result Jason
What pads do you use and where do you get them from, as I noticed that you did not agitate the pre-spray
Cheers
Paul
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To answer a few questions ,
Shoe size 11 , but they stretch with all the pre-spray
Cleaned using Nemesis
Te carpet was a Flotex type pile.
Who says 175 rpm is the correct speed for rotary? I have never had an issue , I have tried to burn one with old carpet from a flood ,, it takes over 30 seconds stationary with a dry pad to make a mark on the carpet I used , 10 seconds less than it takes to burn with a slow speed.
The pads are tuway pads from Jon-don in the states , not bought any for a couple of years. It is very rare I agitate pre spray , if the carpet appears that soiled eg pub/club , I do not want the job .
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Good video and an eye opener for us that have never done bonnet cleaning.
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Jason your righ with the scorching of a carpet then and its less time to do it with a slow one..
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Gary, if you want to see bonnetting, that is usually the main way that I clean, you are more than welcome to come out on a job one day.
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Ahh cheers would like to see that, give me a shout anytime :)
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What surprised me was the amount of prespray, it looked like a tiny amount
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I noticed that Jim, how little prespray, but did you see when Jason moved to the lime green part of the carpet - just touched it with his rotary and immediately cleaner. no aggitation either.
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I had already sprayed the carpet , when I decided to do the video.
Pre spray was applied at a rate of 1 litre for each 10 metres of carpeting.
There are brown strips built into the pad which provide agitation , the whole carpet looked instantly better after the first pass, the pad was brown looking . After the second pass the pad did not appear soiled at all.
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silly question,what kind of video did you use ,the picture quality is really clear or is the lighting really good ,gary bristowclean
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I was surprised with the quality too , it is filmed from my phone , a nokia N8 meant to be in HD , I took some video at a car rally the other week , came out really well too .
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I noticed the quality too jason. I put it on full screen cause it was that good and it still displayed really well. Surprised its from a mobile,just shows how good they getting, a lot cant even take a decent still.
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Jason,
nice video.
Just one slight thing. Have you noticed your posture?
I've noticed on my Dry Fusion machine that the comfortable position is "between clicks" on the handle adjustment. I tend to lean forward to compensate which gets painful after a while.
Make sure you look after your back.
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This area was where the customer tried a rug doctor ;D
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Jason, how many pads do you normally buy. I looked at Jon Dons site and enquired about shipping charges for a couple of boxes of 6 pads. I have a texatherm system and been using fusion 8 but not
getting great results lately. My pads are pretty knackered though. You seem to get a great deal more square footage out of your pads than I do out of mine!
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There are brown strips built into the pad which provide agitation , the whole carpet looked instantly better after the first pass, the pad was brown looking . After the second pass the pad did not appear soiled at all.
Sorry to be thick, was it the same pad on the second pass? If so where did the dirt go?
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Pads are double sided,turn them over.
Either you have a lot of pads or you rinse them on the job.
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That's it, I'm going to give bonneting another go.
We've got a texatherm machine that I bought second hand about 3 years ago, used it for a contract we have (450m2 of low profile every two months) after the second clean customer complained about the finish and we went back to HWE. Never really used it much since.
Got a job to do in a fortnights time (780m2) of flotex, I'll take the buffer along for that and try it with Surround encap from Restormate as I've heard very good results for that product.
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Ian, using a rotary pad machine on flotex is not really advisable, the fibres grip the bonnet putting a lot of strain on the machine, hwe works much better on flotex. If you do try it, make sure the pad is well lubricated and hold on tight.
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Derek , the carpet in the video is Flotex , I have had 3 people call me this week , and tell me that they find HWE on Flotex near impossible.
Someone else local to me called and said Dry fusion would not have done that job , on this occasion a high speed buffer and soft pads were the way to go, the carpet looks better in real life than on the video, the customer is delighted ,and the carpet passed a white towel test.
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I've always found flotex easy to clean, a bucket of hot water with power burst in and extract with wand ;)
Jobs a goodun ;D
Steve
P.s. if you try this dont throw it on the kitchen cupboards or you could be in trouble ;)
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A bucket of water would not have gone down well with the 58 pieces of cv equipment powered by cables in hatches on the floor ;D
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Yeah granted a bit tricky ;D
steve
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Jason, I stand corrected. The reason I say hwe is better is purely because of the problems associated with the rotary gripping the carpet. Over the years I have tried various slow speed machines on Flotex but found they gripped the floor too much unless you put loads of prespray down regularly. My faster Dry Fusion machine is definately not up to the task especially as the grippers on the pad holder tend to flatten out very quickly under strain.
You obviously do not have that problem with your system. Do you put this down to the speed of your machine, the chemical used , the pads or combination of all three.
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Always find if you do geta carpet like flotex if it starts to stick to the carpet i try and put the handle on a really low setting..The only drawback is it wont do your back any good ;D
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Keep the floor well lubricated and you don't get as much pull/grip, the friction from the pad aids the drying as well as the 'mopping'
Shaun
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When agaitating pre-spray with a poly scrub brush attached to a rotery does the carpet also need to be extra lubbed?
Is there a risk of damaging a carpet with too much poly brush scrubbing?
Waiting for my poly scrub brush drive plate to come through the post.
Tony
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Yes, a Dry Fusion machine will definitely not do Flotex. It literally stops dead.
The strange thing is that the pads look really similar.
I'll have to get the old Dowding and Plummer rotary out now!
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The Texatherm system works fine on flotex