Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Pryor on March 04, 2011, 07:52:27 am
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project x is nearly ready to kick off here in surrey and sussex.
this Saturday 25 top level window cleaning companies hand picked by me from across the south east will be coming in their vans and uniforms to our first meeting where I will be presenting the project to them.
remember this is a pilot scheme to test if the idea even works, luckily for them im the only one with my wallet and neck on the line, if successful I intend to scale it up to a national level as fast as possible so watch this space.
we have newspapers coming down to cover the storey which is very exciting, I cant wait to see everyones vans lined up together, keep you eyes out next week for pictures I will post on here.
Lee
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Is this going to be a cull of the top 25 leaving you free to dominate the market place ;D
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hahaha I hadnt thought of that! its a good idea ;D
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"The best way to predict the future is to create it"
Now that I do like. Seriously going to drive me nuts waiting to find out what you're up to ;D
That's the trouble with good ideas, you're bursting to blab to the world and most of the time its a nightmare trying to research and develop without telling someone what your up to :)
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Good luck Lee
When do you start advertising on the local radio?
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on the 1st of April!!!!
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Definately gonna be a good day to start!
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What time you meeting up...
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c u there lee and wish you all the best ;D ;D ;D ;D
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thanks for the invite!!!!
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thanks for the invite!!!!
Where are you based Lee?
Darren, come along if you like mate - frogs hole farm pub, maidenbower 12am come with a clean van and in uniform, would be good to meet you.
Tony, im looking forward to meeting you tomorrow.
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Good luck with this Lee
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This sounds good. Watching this from Boxheadland. ;)
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If you get anywhere near 25 vans turn up unpaid i think your chances of success are good.
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Im hoping for around 20, a few have family things and cant come which is fair enough. im seeing 3 or 4 during next week.
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also have a few newspapers coming to cover the storey! how exciting. I feel like a kid on christmas morning.
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Enthusing people isn't easy, and if only five or six turn up it's going to feel like a kick in the knackers.If you do get an anyway half decent turn out make sure you make the most of it- lots of video and utube footage- lots of still photo's for future promo's.
The most memorable shot is always the V, a chevron of window cleaners walking meaning fully towards the camera.
Have you got some ideas in your head for this or are you going to wing it?
There are quite a few funny things you can do with twenty five liveried wc's teams.Time to get your thinking cap on.You'll only get one chance at this.
I assume your press release is already done- but what about your inspirational speech to the troops have you thought about that general lee?
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this project x is doing my head in!! :-X
just spill the beans
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this project x is doing my head in!! :-X
just spill the beans
It's pretty plain he advertises nationwide and allocates the jobs to vetted people in the project x scheme.
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this project x is doing my head in!! :-X
just spill the beans
it aint hard and it been done before ;)
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Megalomaniac
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No point mentioning he's got the best car on the forums i suppose.
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;D
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he might pull it off- i didn't think ian could do what he did.
If step one is to get twenty five windies to turn up unpaid on a saturday mid-day, then he certainly hasn't chosen the easy route.Logically to get that number some must have to drive a fair way.
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this project x is doing my head in!! :-X
just spill the beans
it aint hard and it been done before ;)
Not according to General Lee it hasn't
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he might pull it off- i didn't think ian could do what he did.
If step one is to get twenty five windies to turn up unpaid on a saturday mid-day, then he certainly hasn't chosen the easy route.Logically to get that number some must have to drive a fair way.
Thats 25 top level window cleaning companies,hand picked,in their vans and uniforms actually.
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with clean vans ;D thats me out
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Guys im loving the banter! I can assure you on 2 things 1 I do have the best car! lol and 2 what im trying to do has not been done before.
Slump - yes I have put alot of thought into every aspect.
Who knows how many will turn up?
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I heard a load of carpet cleaners are going to turn up and trash the gaff ;)
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Hi Lee,
My van was taken to Peugeot main dealer last night with an electrical fault. (Peugeot Boxer 2008)
The other van is not sign written >:( and we are just building an emergency system to be ready for a job on Monday.
We will have to meet up another day, when you have time.
Absolutely the very best of luck with your project X
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this project x is doing my head in!! :-X
just spill the beans
It's pretty plain he advertises nationwide and allocates the jobs to vetted people in the project x scheme.
There is also a guy in my area already doing this, its like an agency for window cleaners
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this project x is doing my head in!! :-X
just spill the beans
It's pretty plain he advertises nationwide and allocates the jobs to vetted people in the project x scheme.
There is also a guy in my area already doing this, its like an agency for window cleaners
I can only assume Lee's Project X is different as there are no end of window cleaning companies that offer national coverage.
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i would not want to join the idea for one big reason.
once the company is big enough to do the work received from adverts its self, the hand pick companys would be on their own ;D ;D and you would end up with a big national residential cleaning company with spending power to advertise on tv :-[
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Whats the jingle like Lee? Got a sample?
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Hello Lee
I am based in Maidstone Kent
3 fully kitted out vivaros 1 hot water
6 staff
uniformed
fully insured
if you would like a chat please email me
leebennett30@aol.com
cheers
Lee
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its good some can think ahead, good luck lee, look forward to the pictures,
george
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So how did the meeting go guys? :)
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The meeting went very well, lots of companies came from as far away as 40 miles! of course some couldnt make it but that was to be expected. We all had lots of fun with the vans and talking shop, got a few pictures.
it was at a pub where they gave us a section set out so I could present the project in full. All in all everyone had a good time and the project is in motion and will start on the first of April.
Oh and I really should say for what must now be the 100 time to those that keep saying its been done before - it has not anywhere by anyone!
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Whack some pics up then Lee. Let us nosey buggers see what professional window cleaners look like ;D
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beat me to it Steve!
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haha. I will post some pics over the next few days!
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now its in operation can you tell us what the hell is going on now!!
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;D ;D ;D
Course he can't.
April fools day is zero hour and highly relevant.
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;D ;D ;D
Course he can't.
April fools ;) ::)
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Hi lee,
I will be very interested in the photo's. Not just to see if you have fallen flat on your face, but i suppose there is an element of that.I want to see how you approached the idea of multiple vans and firms.If they were all parked together they would block each other out, and from a distance the signing would be unclear as to one trade.
So a very interesting problem in terms of branding in a positive way and with a clear message, with what is hopefully a brilliantly iconic photograph of the group as the answer.I have a few ideas how i would have done this, and maybe the press lads had some input.I trust you slipped one a couple of hundred to snap away like mad.
This was probably your best chance for a mass meet up.As you point out people arent going to be making 40 mile round trips regularly just to hear a five minute address.
If you didn't get the shot, then you may be looking at photoshop.
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Lee wouldn't use photoshop. Haven't you seen his website? Hes definately got four identical Renault Trafics
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;D ;D ;D
Course he can't.
April fools day is zero hour and highly relevant.
8)
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haha very good!
we all met for about 3 hours. got a few pics just for fun really, not so much for marketing that has already been taken care of.
needless to say it was a nice afternoon and all the vans lined up was pretty cool, guy from the paper got some good shots. Im going to call them today to see if I can get copies of those too.
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Hi Lee
Which Newspaper came, I will have to get a copy
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Crawley observer, sadly the surrey mirror didnt show up
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wheres the pics you took then lee? come on don't be shy ;)
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Essentially the window cleaners at the meeting are your customers. so a much as anything this was a focus group meeting.
You got to find out what they wanted, what they expected, and how much they would be prepared to pay for it.
I presume you had a keynote or power point presentation ready for them, and this same presentation should be available to interested parties on the forum.Possibly as a download on your website.
I'm a bit disapointed you didn't take control of the press better- the one paper will probably supply the other with pics and copy- but you really could do with a bit more documentation, of this the birth of your enterprise.
You should have taken video footage too.
If you were running this project for me i think the car would be withdrawn and you would be running round on a push bike for the next few weeks.
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I will make sure I get a copy this week as it is not delivered for free now I have moved to Maidenbower/Worth wherever my house is?
Hopefully they will do you proud. Good to see such a positive person trying to make this industry better.
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I think i'm more interested in this as an idea than you are lee, your message has be, come and be a part of a great team- a winning team.And the first manifestation of this would be saturdays meeting.That's why you need the pics, the video, and the esprite de corps etc.
The pub car park this year could be benidorm next year.You could be the new Mel Garvey.
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So far then we have a mystery concept, with mysterious w/c's ( I have not noticed any1 say they went to this meeting ) and as yet no pic's......
and it all kicks off on April 1
sorry to be sceptical Lee.............
Darran
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Someone say something nice about his car. He is sure to reply then? ;D ;)
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Very nice car!!! Anyone want an unwanted R8??
Bought for 96k 2 years ago.
£29,000 ovno
Its been a hard year :-[
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I went :)
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Slump i am pleased your very into my idea even though you dont really know what it is. How on earth you can say you are more interested in it than me i dont know? I have put in nearly £15k of my own money, spent hours and hours on the phone to the companies involved and the list goes on and on.
Its great to be told what I should have done but so far its going very well as it is. I have nearly 30 companies on board that are all very keen to get started.
The first of April was chosen because IMO this is the best day of the year to start any marketing for window cleaning due to the clocks changing to summer time in the last weekend of March.
The companies involved are not all on this forum and the ones that are have been asked to not talk about it publicly at this time. Ones that do will not be included in the project. Its enough to say that I have my reasons
for this at this time.
I did not take my car to the meeting even though I live in the next road from the venue, I went and got one of my vans from my unit 5 miles away and wore my uniform just like everyone else that came.
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Lee, Slumpy has a 'rye' sense of humour, he's taking the pi$$.
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Just read post and imo its a pre April fools joke. No pictures no story enough said!!!!
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I would say there is a hint of Jealousy from various members on here.
Nice car, business doing well, organising 'something' thats has obviously got alot of companies interested.
I say Keep up the good work.
The R8 post is serious. If anyone knows of anyone? (sorry not turning this into Autotrader am i?)
Have a good day everyone.
Off to finish 173 builders cleans :'(
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KentKleen Send me some pics darranvps@yahoo.co.uk
Thanks
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Personally I think it was a ruse just to see 25 men in uniform.
If I wanted to do that, it's much simpler just to go and watch the changing of the guard :)
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Pics or it didnt happen..........
As they say across various internet forums lol ;D
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i'm fairly serious in my comments and interested in how you have approached the project, Watching moems vid of the cleaning show i thought that was pretty good.
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enjoy a taste of some of the people at the meeting
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Spill some more beans............the photo's not enough. ;)
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sorry, thats all for now. However I can say its all coming along very well and were on track for kick off on the 1st of April.
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Sorry, but *YAWN*
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Good old Matt, the miserable cynic, is back.
He'll flounce off in a huff when someone disagrees with him soon. He does it every few months. Bit like a toddler, really.
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enjoy a taste of some of the people at the meeting
No, I don't think I'd want to taste any of those guys; it wouldn't be enjoyable for me. I'm not that way inclined mate. ;D
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enjoy a taste of some of the people at the meeting
No, I don't think I'd want to taste any of those guys; it wouldn't be enjoyable for me. I'm not that way inclined mate. ;D
No even me tosh :-*
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All we can see is a pic of some wc guys. Probs taken at cleaning show last week. Hee Hee.
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All we can see is a pic of some wc guys. Probs taken at cleaning show last week. Hee Hee.
Oh well, you worked it out! guess thats blown the lid on my project then. you were all right it really is just an april fool joke that I made up months ago. haha
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Well done Lee. I hope it works out for you ;)
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So who are this band of mystery men they call the "project x ers"????
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So who are this band of mystery men they call the "project x ers"????
We should start are own project x in dorset ;D
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Speaking from experience, if you are trying to get a bunch of window cleaners to do what they have a agreed to do, I think you are peeing in the wind
One thing saying, Its another getting them to do what they say.
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All we can see is a pic of some wc guys. Probs taken at cleaning show last week. Hee Hee.
Oh well, you worked it out! guess thats blown the lid on my project then. you were all right it really is just an april fool joke that I made up months ago. haha
Are you being serious?
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Lee
I really like your style of keeping people in suspense, well done and good luck!
You certainly have a lot of people reading, if not commenting on this post ;)
We should get the time to meet up as we are almost neighbours!
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Lee's project is for real
He 's just winding up the wind up merchants
I've spoke to him and he is a good guy and hope his project is successful as i want to see it ooop north
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I've spoke to him and he is a good guy and hope his project is successful as i want to see it ooop north
The problem is that people like Steptoe (Matt Bateman/Rise and Shine, etc, etc) is that he's desperate for this to go wrong, as in his last incarnation he slagged it like mad and (not at all unusually for him) got into a bit of a huff about it. Success is the lastthing he hopes for.
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I would say there is a hint of Jealousy from various members on here.
Nice car, business doing well, organising 'something' thats has obviously got alot of companies interested.
I say Keep up the good work.
The R8 post is serious. If anyone knows of anyone? (sorry not turning this into Autotrader am i?)
Have a good day everyone.
Off to finish 173 builders cleans :'(
If the R8 is serious then put it down to me as long as it isn't a mangled wreck. Email me pics and your bank details and i'll transfer a deposit. jamiemillsltd@aol.com.
Quite strange i can't find one under 50k and you haven't thought of driving it to the garage you bought it from and getting substantially more than you are asking
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I think it has something to do with the Olympic's ;)
You would need a hell of alot of windies to cover that project!!!
;) ;)
Rhinoman, Pic's of the car or the builders cleans?? lol
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I've spoke to him and he is a good guy and hope his project is successful as i want to see it ooop north
The problem is that people like Steptoe (Matt Bateman/Rise and Shine, etc, etc) is that he's desperate for this to go wrong, as in his last incarnation he slagged it like mad and (not at all unusually for him) got into a bit of a huff about it. Success is the lastthing he hopes for.
You have me totally wrong, but you're not going to admit that. Iif I was as you describe Id have participated in this thread a lot more. Im simply observing; you simply dont like me, which is okay, you just like to try to belittle me, that's all.
Its odd as you joined this forum after I fell out with Lee, so how would you know about any disagreement with him, unless of course you're hiding behind an alterior identity. Either way you've never said anything without critiscism about me, which is odd as we've never spoken together.
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I've spoke to him and he is a good guy and hope his project is successful as i want to see it ooop north
The problem is that people like Steptoe (Matt Bateman/Rise and Shine, etc, etc) is that he's desperate for this to go wrong, as in his last incarnation he slagged it like mad and (not at all unusually for him) got into a bit of a huff about it. Success is the lastthing he hopes for.
You have me totally wrong, but you're not going to admit that. Iif I was as you describe Id have participated in this thread a lot more. Im simply observing; you just dont like me, which is okay, you just like to try to belittle me, that's all.
Its odd as you joined this forum after I fell out with Lee, so how would you know about any disagreement with him, unless of course you're hiding behind an alterior identity. Either way you've never said anything without critiscism about me, which is odd as we've never spoken together.
So you did "Fall out with Lee".
Just getting the facts straight.
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sorry, its not mine to drive to a garage! Just phoned my friend and , my mistake he wants £59,000 for it. If your still interested I can let him know your details.
Thanks
Dave
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I think it has something to do with the Olympic's ;)
You would need a hell of alot of windies to cover that project!!!
;) ;)
Rhinoman, Pic's of the car or the builders cleans?? lol
Well if you have pics of a lovely builders clean, put em up :P
Having just sold my Q7, I am in the market for something else........................
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Very nice car!!! Anyone want an unwanted R8??
Bought for 96k 2 years ago.
£29,000 ovno
Its been a hard year :-[
??? ??? ???
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I always thought Matt Bateman was a set up ID run by a computer that owns CIU. Is there a real Matt Bateman? 8)
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So you did "Fall out with Lee".
Just getting the facts straight.
Yes, I didnt deny it, I also apologised to him on here about it. You unfortunately seem to be a troll.
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I so want too say something inresponse too a few posts but I dont want too blow the lid on the ins and out of Lees idear but a lot of you are not going in the right direction of what hes doing, Lee is a nice bloke and he will not be the only one benefitting from this idear, every party will gain out of it,
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sorry, its not mine to drive to a garage! Just phoned my friend and , my mistake he wants £59,000 for it. If your still interested I can let him know your details.
Thanks
Dave
Errrr, now the price has more than doubled i think i'll pass thanks. £29,000 to £59,000 is a little bit of a jump.
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I reckon it might be a campain to put commercial work back in to the hands of local windys direct.
They'll get a better service by "real" professionals! ;)
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And that WOULD be good. If thats what it is fair play to the guy.
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And that WOULD be good. If thats what it is fair play to the guy.
It would indeed BUT it's just a guess batman. ;)
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Jeez I must be the slowest bloke here!!!! ::)
Welcome back Matt
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Very nice car!!! Anyone want an unwanted R8??
Bought for 96k 2 years ago.
£29,000 ovno
Its been a hard year :-[
What hard year was that then mate? 39,000 worth of extra work since begining of last year? Now you want to earn some extra cash by pretending to flog your cars on CIU? Turns out it's your "Mates" car. You couldn't make this up could you? PMSL
I love this forum ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Think I'll watch TV for a bit. More believable watching ITV 2 I reckon. ::)
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Yes MY MATE has had a hard year, lost 3.7 m on a block of apartments!
Cozy read the posts pal!
Yes great year for me tho thanks.
I love this forum.
1. I did not say it was my car.
2. Did not say I had had the bad year.
;D
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No you didn't did you. ::)
Very nice car!!! Anyone want an unwanted R8?? I'm selling it for my mate but I like mugs to think it's mine
Bought for 96k 2 years ago. I want you mugs to think that I could spend that much on a car becuase I have small todger
£29,000 ovno I want you mugs to believe I could write that much cash off because I'm a big number in window polishing
Its been a hard year :-[ I expect you mugs to think that I turn over so much cash each year that I have to sell one of my cars and I crave recognition.
The funny bit is, you trying to identify yourself as successfull like Lee or the other big players. ;D ;D ;D
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I so want too say something inresponse too a few posts but I dont want too blow the lid on the ins and out of Lees idear but a lot of you are not going in the right direction of what hes doing, Lee is a nice bloke and he will not be the only one benefitting from this idear, every party will gain out of it,
He's told us what he's doing, a radio campaign,in just one county to start and vetted w'cers who'll pay for the work this produces.The initial face to face meeting was on saturday in a pub near where he lives.He hoped that 25 firms would attend in vans and uniforms. I can't understand how he expected these people to make the effort of vans and uniforms when he couldn't be bothered to manage a proper photo shoot.
His reply to my earlier comments was that the marketing had been taken care,and he didn't need shots of the team. but if that was the case why couldn't the guys come in normal clothes and vehicles?
Anyway in the photo we've been shown they weren't all in uniform, one was in a suit.In the background there are seven vans, one of them lee's, so it looks like six turned up.
It may seem, from comments by other posters on this thread, that i am livid with jealousy about the project and the car.What interests me is ideas and their execution.
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If thats how i am coming across I am sorry for that cozy.
I have just read some of your old posts/comments this may shock you.
I agree with alot of what you say.
I mentioned my mates car to lighten the mood of the Project x post as cars where starting to get mentioned .
I think the ladder monkey comment is the root of our problem.
I apologise for that.
Been on the ladders all morning on builders cleans and have no problem with trad cleaners.
We are all window cleaners at the end of the day, up ladders or swinging poles around, I have had a good year and hope this coming one can produce the same results.
p.s ITV2 must be bad you where soon back on here! ;)
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Fair enough mate. I'll just keep lurkin under my bridge and wait for the next victim. 8)
No hard feelings, you just presented an easy shot. ;)
I'll go back to "Ewan Baiting".
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I think he's changed his name bud.
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iwantawindowcleaner.com
Is this the global phenomenon?
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I think he's changed his name bud.
Yeah, but I know who he is ;D As soon as he finishes his shift at Sainsbury's and starts posting his advice on here, I'll be waiting !! ;D
Sorry Lee, hijacked the thread a bit. :-[
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Back on Track
7 Window cleaners turned up ? ? ?
Not going to dominate the world with that
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iwantawindowcleaner.com
Is this the global phenomenon?
It would be interesting to see, looks like Lee's stuff, perhaps he'll tell us tomorrow.
:)
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I think he's changed his name bud.
You'd know. You do it every time you have a hissy fit.
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I didn't count but I would guess that there were 15 there.
Not everyone was in the picture.
I had some pre-scheduled work that morning so couldn't arrive until 1 - after the photo shoot had happened. I think others arrived after it - but before me. I also had to go at 2 because I was taking someone to the footie. I would like to have been there a lot longer but there was a lot of other stuff I had to do.
No, I'm not going to spill the beans either. It's Lee's story to tell if and when he wishes to.
We bump into each other a fair bit and I first became aware that he was planning something some time ago. I did promise not to say anything on here and that's how it stays.
I'm sure things will become clearer soon enough.
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I think he's changed his name bud.
You'd know. You do it every time you have a hissy fit.
You know Mister (whoever you are hiding behind your alias), I dont have to attend every time Im invited to an arguement. You can say what you want about me but I will simply be ignoring your childish comments from now on. You carry on mate.
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I'm sure things will become clearer soon enough.
I hope so, I'm quite intrigued to hear what this is about. I think for Lee to even have gotten about 15 window cleaners together is quite an achievement in itself.
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I dont have to attend every time Im invited to an arguement.
We know that. You normally avoid the argument by throwing your toys out of the pram, deleting your account and running away, then slinking back a couple of months later under a new username.
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I dont have to attend every time Im invited to an arguement.
We know that. You normally avoid the argument by throwing your toys out of the pram, deleting your account and running away, then slinking back a couple of months later under a new username.
Dave, your sign up date is 5th Feb, which is after Matt did his last disappearing act. So how do you know all this? You must've been a member under a different alias prior, or you're someone with a grudge whose hiding behind this name (which is what I suspect the case is) .
At least Matt is honest and says who he is; he's human like the rest of us; but I also suspect you're an underhanded Troll, just looking to try and annoy those you hold a grudge against.
You're not bad at it too! ;D
But really, we're spoiling Lee's post here, and it seems he's putting a lot of effort into something, so maybe it's better if we keep our childish arguments out of this post; we've a great off-topic site that's good for a heated discussion; maybe you could try there?
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Dave, your sign up date is 5th Feb, which is after Matt did his last disappearing act. So how do you know all this? You must've been a member under a different alias prior, or you're someone with a grudge whose hiding behind this name (which is what I suspect the case is) .
At least Matt is honest and says who he is; he's human like the rest of us; but I also suspect you're an underhanded Troll, just looking to try and annoy those you hold a grudge against.
You're not bad at it too! ;D
But really, we're spoiling Lee's post here, and it seems he's putting a lot of effort into something, so maybe it's better if we keep our childish arguments out of this post; we've a great off-topic site that's good for an a heated discussion; maybe you could try there?
Fair point, I'll make this my last word so prevent total hijack.
The first thing I did after signing up was to read through hundreds, probably thousands of back posts so that I could see what was going on and not ask the questions everyone else had asked.
A few things came out. I read every one of Ian Lancaster's posts and many of Lee's, as they both seemed to be building businesses rather than cleaning windows, which is what I've tried to do. That was also when I kept coming across Matt/Rise/HS&Son and realised that many of his posts were pointless and that he had a habit of huffing off. I also read a number of yours and realised that your philosophical outlook is not a million miles from mine.
So, my knowledge might appear to predate my signing up, but for a reason.
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Cheers, Dave!
But we're getting a bit bored of the regular company in the off-topic area, so if anyone fancies a fight over there, you'll find there's a few of us ready and waiting for a good argument. ;D
The normal topics are football, religion (for and against), philosophy, physical or mental illnesses, cars, motorbikes, DIY, moaning about our partners and lots lots more interesting stuff.
Maybe a mod could delete the irrelevant posts?
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sorry for the late reply ive had some computer problems.
My god! I love all the speculation and guessing games. You have to admit its alot of fun really. knowone is close at this time.
Its true there were about 15 there out of 25. but when someone says its my weekend to have the kidds the only answer I could give was fair enough. every company that couldnt come is arranging to see me at another time.
The point of the meeting was to run through the project. I asked people to come in vans and uniform as a bit of fun really. Everyone had a good time looking at the different kits and poles.
Look guys, dispite all the negative posts and so on, what im trying to do will benefit us all and our little industry if it works out. If it doesnt only I will have lost money and time, please believe me when I say I have worked very hard for months and spent alot of money.